DT Trading Discussion 2010 (Part 4)

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Yes true instant points.

I doubt Dale Thomas and Sam Fisher would come into discussions much if you are after consistency.
Good point and while I agree with you on the Fisher side of things, even last year Dale Thomas had one of the lowest standard deviations the good side of $200K (lowest 60; highest 91), so he has historically been consistently average. And this year he has been consistently good - his Std Dev only shot up over 12 this week because of his massive 145 last week.
 
Looking for advice please on the following options.

Option 1
Gumbleton >> N O'Keefe
Shaw >> Scotland

Option 2
Gumbleton >> N O'Keefe
Mayne >> Goodes

The only reason i'm considering trading shaw is because the amount of times Scotland has scored more then 100 points (7/10) and shaw's up and down scores.

It will mean though i will have to settle as waters & maguire being permanent in the team due to amount of trades remaining and needing to make at least one more upgrade in the midfield and forward line.

Bringing in Goodes for Mayne will improve my forward line by 30 - 50 points each game.

10 trades left and current team below. Any advice please.
Remaining cash $2700

Defenders: Goddard, Hodge, Shaw, Gilbee, Enright, Maguire, Waters
(Webberley, Trengove)

Midfielders: Ablett, Bartel, Boyd, Cooney, Barlow, Martin
(Cunnington, McNeil)

Rucks: Sandilands, Hille
(Warnock, Lobbe)

Forwards: Giansiracusa, Brown, O'Keefe, Pavlich, Franklin, Pod, Mayne
(Gumbleton, Fyfe)

Sorry guys any advice appreciated for the above?

With only 10 trades I want to make sure I'm doing the correct upgrades, I may only get to do two more upgrades in the short term & save my trades
 
...aside from a couple of key turnovers.

Though I have him in my "get cash" trade option for this week.

My "get guns" option only leaves me with $14,000 in the coffers, I'm leaning toward it...

What do you reckon? Sideways trading a-la-carte:

Gram => Fisher

Hall => D.Thomas

My issue is that I need high scores to compete in my league (only interested in league these days) and with Gram out and Hall erratic (to say the least), I want some stability (yes, I know Fisher hasn't exaclty been Mr. Consistency, but I'm hoping his late start means he's coming good right about now).

Will leave me with 8 trades and a team that I can sit on for a while (barring significant injuries).

If its consistency your after then fisher actually isnt a bad option imo. Fishers scores have looked like this 0,0,106,71,96,80,37,100,88,117. He missed the first two games of the season, put the 37 down to a bad day in the office and 71 isnt a bad score for a defender (not great, but not bad) then the rest of his scoring has been fairly consistant and above 80. Saints look to be adjusting to not having Roo and are starting to kick some decent scores. Also they have a very tidy run home. If its consistancy your after and a solid defender you could do alot worse that Fisher imo.
 

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Sorry guys any advice appreciated for the above?

With only 10 trades I want to make sure I'm doing the correct upgrades, I may only get to do two more upgrades in the short term & save my trades

Mayne for sure mate. Shaw is a keeper. May not look like it atm but he is. Once you upgrade mayne your forward line will be complete and leave you with 8 trades. Next upgrade maguire which will leave you with 6 trades for LTI:thumbsu: Nothing wrong with having waters as a keeper. Majority of teams will be left with him or Hargrave as keepers anyway
 
Sorry guys any advice appreciated for the above?

With only 10 trades I want to make sure I'm doing the correct upgrades, I may only get to do two more upgrades in the short term & save my trades
Well Waters has been travelling better than Mayne, certainly in terms of average points (as your lowest scorers in each line?? I'm not sure about the order you put them in), so instantly, I was thinking your Mayne trade was a more sensible go given you options.

Then there is the Scotland injury cloud (which made me nearly eat my phone last week having JUST picked him up).

Also, Mayne isn't exactly a gun you have paid top dollar for, however, in theory Shaw is and really you should be trying to stick with your guns unless they go down (eg. Voldt and, as you see above in my case, Gram). He is inconsistent, but just be thankful you didn't pick Hargrave like I did. :eek:
 
Sorry guys any advice appreciated for the above?

With only 10 trades I want to make sure I'm doing the correct upgrades, I may only get to do two more upgrades in the short term & save my trades

You have 3 players to upgrade but with only ten trades left I'd suggest leaving Maguire on the field until late.

That leaves you with Martin & Mayne to be upgraded.

Personally I'd suggest waiting two weeks for Fyfe to peak and downgrade him to Gourdis of Richmond or any other forward rookie you like, wouldn't stress about letting O'Keefe go past you.

That should leave you with a bit less than $200k cash to upgrade Martin with.

So...

8 trades left
Remaining cash not much

Defenders: Goddard, Hodge, Shaw, Gilbee, Enright, Maguire, Waters
(Webberley, Trengove)

Midfielders: Ablett, Bartel, Boyd, Cooney, Barlow, Premium
(Cunnington, McNeil)

Rucks: Sandilands, Hille
(Warnock, Lobbe)

Forwards: Giansiracusa, Brown, O'Keefe, Pavlich, Franklin, Pod, Mayne
(Gumbleton, Gourdis)

From their I'd hold my trades until the finals with the intention of downgrading a Webberley/Trengove/Gumbleton and upgrading a Mayne or a Maguire.

Just my thoughts.
 
Cheers for the responses, folks. Reckon mine's about as set in stone as a trade could be on a Wednesday.

Now I just have to sit back and worry about having only $14K in the kitty.
 
Shuey has glandular fever i f'ing hate the world :thumbsdown:

If this is true then there will be many feeling like yourself - myself included!

Been stuck with JKT and Shuey on the bench for many rounds now and it finally bit me last week when Barlow was a late withdrawal...

Praying JKT gets a go this week with Brown, Hooper and Buddy all out. If he plays then i might even trade him for cash next week to either Gysberts or McNeil for some cover.
 
I need to generate a bit of cash in order to upgrade Kennelly to a premium, so I just want to see what people think is the best option:

A) This week: Gumbleton to Nathan O'Keefe, Kennelly to premium defender. I would then have Rockliff and NOK as forward reserves.

B) Next week: Martin to Gysberts, Kennelly to premium defender. I would then have Gysberts and Shuey as midfield reserves. I would have Gumbleton and Rockliff as forward reserves.

Another option is to downgrade Gumbleton this week & Martin next week, upgrade Kennelly next week and have 8 trades and a fair bit of cash to play with, with 1 more defender to upgrade.

Another option arises if people think Martin is appropriate cover to keep for the entire season. I could trade Shuey to Gysberts next week - would only give me an extra 60k so probably is not worth it. However is a bench of Gysberts and Shuey good enough to see me out for the remainder of the season? Shuey is best 22 for the Eagles but was injured and now has glandular fever, and we all know how impressive Gysberts was but can he keep it up?

The last option is, of course, to conserve trades and ride it out as I am not copping any 0s but Kennelly does need to be upgraded at some stage and now seems a good time before he gets back and drops a fair bit more in price. With 11 trades left I feel I can use a few more over the next few weeks anyway, looking at my team.

Note: Keeping Kennelly this week will not cost me a 0 as my 7th, 8th and 9th defenders are Webberley, Davis and Hams - so I would just play Webberley and Davis as I did this week, but I will have no playing bench cover.

If it makes it easier to give advice, here is my team as it currently stands:

Goddard, Hodge, Enright, Mackie, Kennelly, Waters, Davis (Webberley, Hams)
Swan, Montagna, Bartel, Gibbs, Selwood, Barlow (Martin, Shuey)
Sandilands, Hille (Warnock, Roughead)
Chapman, Pavlich, O'Keefe, Brown, Harvey, Franklin, Podsiadly (Gumbleton, Rockliff)

11 trades remaining, 23k spare

Would appreciate some thoughts......
 
I would do Rocky > NOK instead of Gumby. Gumby is best 22 every week bar injury and Rocky is not. Rocky played well last week, but he has been pretty poor otherwise. Im unsure about NOK JS havnt paid much attention to the roos but i guess Petrie out helps. But they have Warren, Edwards, Smith waiting in the wings as tall forwards. I havnt seen NOK play so i cant comment on him personally.

I think i prefer choice one because if Gysberts isnt named for round 3 than you might be in a bit of trouble. Meaning you have no one to downgrade to. Also the first one you get the extra points of a premium playing instead of JWEBB.

Also would love to know who your aiming for if money wasnt an issue for Kennelly. Who is the backmen your eyeing. Im also looking to do something with Kennelly and am looking at Carazzo and Duffield as my number 1 and 2 choice.

Are you considering Shaw who is dirt cheap or anyone else?
 

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Who has greater job security for the rest of the year.

Peterson / Gumbleton / Rockliffe

Assuming one will get an upgrade to a premium & one will be downgraded. Who do you leave as a playing sub? Who is safer to leave in the team?

Gumbleton >> daylight
i havnt seen much of peterson so cant judge, Rockliffe is way too good for the qafl, and if he continues his steady form he should stay in the side
 
I just cant decide who to choose for my last mid spot - ablett or montagna?

With Geelong likely to sew up top spot, they're more likely to rest players come finals time. Montagna will likely score about the same as Ablett and play more games.
 
What are peoples thoughts on Nick Dal Santo?

He offers great value at 400K. He is prone to the odd low score but his ceiling is also towards the top end of midfielders. Is he better value at jumping on now at 400K than say waiting a week or two and getting Boyd at close to 400K?
 
What are peoples thoughts on Nick Dal Santo?

He offers great value at 400K. He is prone to the odd low score but his ceiling is also towards the top end of midfielders. Is he better value at jumping on now at 400K than say waiting a week or two and getting Boyd at close to 400K?

your a bomber so maybe you already have Stanton? if not i consider him better than Dal or Boyd, averaged 114 in the last half of last year.. and going at 110 this year
 
Finally getting rid of Gray.. Who should i get out of didak, Dale Thomas or Goodes?
 
How about Carrazzo instead of Scotto?

Carrazzo was one first players i was considering trading for as he was $50k cheaper then scotland, but scotland scores have been impressive 124, 107, 85, 80, 108, 83, 113, 107, 132, 111
7 out of 10 games over 100 points
 
Mayne for sure mate. Shaw is a keeper. May not look like it atm but he is. Once you upgrade mayne your forward line will be complete and leave you with 8 trades. Next upgrade maguire which will leave you with 6 trades for LTI:thumbsu: Nothing wrong with having waters as a keeper. Majority of teams will be left with him or Hargrave as keepers anyway

Thanks mate for your help

Will look at upgrading mayne ahead of shaw, a stronger forward line will mean i can play pav in the midfield if i need to with mcneil in the team.
 
Well Waters has been travelling better than Mayne, certainly in terms of average points (as your lowest scorers in each line?? I'm not sure about the order you put them in), so instantly, I was thinking your Mayne trade was a more sensible go given you options.

Then there is the Scotland injury cloud (which made me nearly eat my phone last week having JUST picked him up).

Also, Mayne isn't exactly a gun you have paid top dollar for, however, in theory Shaw is and really you should be trying to stick with your guns unless they go down (eg. Voldt and, as you see above in my case, Gram). He is inconsistent, but just be thankful you didn't pick Hargrave like I did. :eek:

Thanks, i'm happy to keep Waters, i was considering trading shaw as he keeps dropping in value and he low scores are annoying, although it has not cost me a close league match yet.

Hopefully for our sake both players can get better scores.
 
Finally getting rid of Gray.. Who should i get out of didak, Dale Thomas or Goodes?

Looks like the week to get Goodes if you want him.

He's hit rock bottom will keep scoring consistantly and is sure to kick a big bag of goals to boost his score up sometime :thumbsu::thumbsu::thumbsu:
 
Cyril ----> Richie 'Sambora' Douglas? Douglas looking like a premium this season. Then again I thought the same about Cyril.
 
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