DT Trading discussion 2010

[WeninRome]

Have to bat for Grimlock here. Where in FF genie does it show Judd's BE is 160? It's 0 on mine, since he's only played 1 game.

says 160 on mine and im looking at it right now. Not sure what is going on if it's true.

Either way, I wouldnt be paying + 400k for Judd

 

[jiphoc]

Generally trading this time of year is not my thing but I am aiming for a top 2000 finish this year and want to get rid of players who are going to hold me back now rather then later. That in mind do you think I should do this trade:
Hitchcock -> Pods
Ball -> Vince

Took a chance with Ball and looks like it might fail as he seams to be used in a tagging role more so and his disposal so far is below average so wont be getting great game time.

Vince had a shocking start but is slowly finding gear now. BE this week of 90 so now be the best time to get him?

 

[dee64]

righto..FF genie must be wrong.

Judd is more suited to Supercoach anyway...trade away for him if you like...much better fish in the sea.

If I was really cashed up, I'd take Swan or Bartel. I'm tossing up between Judd and Brennan, who will probably be the same price after round 5.

Brennan has the benefit of being a Mid/Fwd, who I can substitute with the 4 Mid/Fwds in my forward line.

You may have swayed me to Brennan.

 

[Kid A]

It is relevant because I don't think that you are in a position to criticise trading practice if you yourself are not doing so well. If you are going to direct others who trade to the "Shit Dreamteamer's" board, show us your team, show us why we shouldn't trade. Show us what gives you the right to bag out people trading.

Make up your mind. First you say it's fine to trade rashly because DT is about fun. Then you make as if early trading is something rational and smart. Which is it?

I have already provided justifications of why a lot of trades mentioned are shit. They are not two way trades. Blind Freddie can see that. Like I said, unless you have made some sort of grave team selection mistake, like selecting an NBA player in your midfield, you should be aiming for two way trades. Otherwise you may as well trade for the flavour of the week every week. For further elaboration see the golden rules thread.

Finally, my team is just fine. Not that it matters, but here are my not great players:

Ladson, Hunt, Stanton (inj), Shuey (inj), J. Selwood, Robinson, Tippett, Medhurst, Franklin (susp)

If you can suggest one reason why I should trade this week (apart from Tippett) i'd like to hear it.

 

[ohh_v]

The only trade i was going to make was to bring in Schmidt for one of Hunt or Maguire. But after seeing their BE's, i think I'm just going to sit on it as they can still make in some money. P.Davis may be the option next week.

Abit worried about Mitchell as well, don't like the idea of starting 4 midfield rookies, although Bastinac isn't doing too shabby at all.

 

[Dr Awkward]

Honestly why would anybody get Vince with the way Adelaide are going? Do you really want a premium midfileder in a team that is going to finish in the bottom 4?

Judd is a better DTer than people give him credit for. Just because he is better at SC does not mean he is not a good DT pickup. He is super reliable and consistent, looks really primed this year and I think you could do worse than to bring him in a have him as your 5th or 6th mid keeper.

 

[dee64]

Finally, my team is just fine. This is it:
Goddard, Kennelly, Shaw, Hodge, Enright, Ladson, Hunt, Waters, Maguire
Bartel, Stanton, J. Selwood, Robinson, Martin, Trengove, Barlow, Shuey
Tippett, Hille, Warnock, Trengove
Barry Hall, Medhurst, Franklin, Gumbleton, Dangerfield, Gia, Rockliff, ROK, Brennan

1 trade used: Riewoldt to Brennan and $120k in the bank

If you can suggest one reason why I should trade this week (apart from Tippett) i'd like to hear it.

No it's not. It's a horrible team, and it's little wonder you are ranked in the 98,000s.

ROK & Brennan aside, that is worst forward line I've seen. You obviously have a penchant for flakey inconsistent players.

 

[bones25]

i'm sorry but some of these trades are ludicrous. at this stage of the season the only trades you should be contemplating are ones that fix gaping holes in your team. by gaping holes i mean you selected prestigiacomo or Ronaldinho or Gary Ablett Snr or something like that.

You only get 20 trades each season.

With the exception of long term injury trades, every trade should win both ways.

The traded out player should have peaked. (So, don't trade Trengove/Martin/any other rookie that you started out with as they have not yet peaked).

The trade-in player should have fallen to a price floor (so I don't see the point of trading in someone like Jono Brown at this stage of the season).

It's still too early to dismiss out of hand someone who is going shit (possible exception might be Tippett, sigh, but look at the way Hille and Harvey turned it around).

In a season there are probably 17,000 good two-way trades. All your job is to do is to pick 20 of them. Go off on half cocked one- way trades and you'll regret it come round 16 when you say "oh no, I could have won DT if it weren't for my injuries"

They will learn the hard way, just like we have the past 5 years or so.

I'm still siting on 20 trades and still weighing up the options this week. With no major injuries, other than maybe Mitchell missing, have cover anyway. Some concern over Ball/Balla/Ziebell/Medders/Hall, but patience is a must for another week or 2.

Only tempter this week for me is Gumby>Rocky, already have Pods on bench or wait and see what Davis does, been good reports on this kids but job security? Tho Davis would be better in the backs for Maguire or Nason is prob better. Other rookies are ticking over nicely with all playing (cept 1 ruck of course)

 

[bones25]

Hey fellow DT'ers

Weighing up a trade or two this week, could be the week of cash for me:

Hitchy>Pods AND Banner>Lucus

I could do both of these, or 1, or nothing

Opinions?

Your going to do 2 downgrades to gain 81k? No it's not enough especially 2 trades. Do just the 1 to Pods as he will be worth the gain in $, but jeeez not both.

 

[bones25]

It is relevant because I don't think that you are in a position to criticise trading practice if you yourself are not doing so well. If you are going to direct others who trade to the "Shit Dreamteamer's" board, show us your team, show us why we shouldn't trade. Show us what gives you the right to bag out people trading.

He will prove it come Rd18, rankings at this time of year mean jackshyte.

 

[swans4eva]

Hitchcock named- No trades
Hitchcock dropped- Hitchcock to Pods
It's that simple... Already have rocky too.

 

[Blues_FC]

No it's not. It's a horrible team, and it's little wonder you are ranked in the 98,000s.

ROK & Brennan aside, that is worst forward line I've seen. You obviously have a penchant for flakey inconsistent players.

It's not a horrible team you moron, it's just an unlucky one. None of the players in his team would have been bad selections before Round 1.

Unfortunately for him, they turned out not to perform so well once the season proper began, but that would have been hard to predict.

How about everyone just worry about their own team?

 

[WeninRome]

If I was really cashed up, I'd take Swan or Bartel. I'm tossing up between Judd and Brennan, who will probably be the same price after round 5.

Brennan has the benefit of being a Mid/Fwd, who I can substitute with the 4 Mid/Fwds in my forward line.

You may have swayed me to Brennan.

IMO there are much better option in the midfiled than Brennan...but if you like the DP then that's fine.

What about Liam Anthony? has a 70 in his rolling average now so will continue to fall...could be a great get at $380k

 

[dee64]

IMO there are much better option in the midfiled than Brennan...but if you like the DP then that's fine.

What about Liam Anthony? has a 70 in his rolling average now so will continue to fall...could be a great get at $380k

I prefer my premiums to be playing in winning sides, as there is the greater opportunity for junk time points.

 

[magpies03]

I prefer my premiums to be playing in winning sides, as there is the greater opportunity for junk time points.

Agreed

Liam Anthonys great but while north are playing the way they are they are naturally gonna get swamped some weeks and you will cop a 70-80 type score.

If you have montagna or bartel or someone like that much less chance of it happenin as they are generally winning and alot more opportunity to get the ball and rack up the possies.

 

[Delicious Cyril]

I prefer my premiums to be playing in winning sides, as there is the greater opportunity for junk time points.

Agreed, but also run the risk of those exact players getting rested during DT finals time.. a la St Kilda last year.

 

[kfleong2000]

Premiums in not so good sides may also get sent to end of season surgery when all hope is gone.

It's probably better to go for premiums in middle of the road sides fighting for finals - guaranteed lots of TOG and no resting/rotation or packing it in for 2011 there.

 

[stoja]

I have Sam Wright and Mitch Robinson in my team.. obviously not getting the points i had hoped for and dont know what to do with them now...

have hitchcock and gumby/ and shuey martin on the bench

SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP!!

also i have 200k in the bank.

 

[Just_ace]

I'll be doing 2 downgrades to gain 280k

hall --> pods
gumbleton --> Rockcliff

I already have duncan

then 1 - 2 weeks
d.martin --> gibbs
j. trengove --> j selwood/l. hayes

 

[magpies03]

I have Sam Wright and Mitch Robinson in my team.. obviously not getting the points i had hoped for and dont know what to do with them now...

have hitchcock and gumby/ and shuey martin on the bench

SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP!!

also i have 200k in the bank.

If your dead set on getting rid of both of them lucas and pods/rock are puttin up good numbers. WOuld also net you some serious cash. Either that or downgrade wright to pods rock and upgrade robinson to a keeper.
If you want to use trades this early i dont think they are bad options

 

[holybishop]

I'll be doing 2 downgrades to gain 280k

hall --> pods
gumbleton --> Rockcliff

I already have duncan

then 1 - 2 weeks
d.martin --> gibbs
j. trengove --> j selwood/l. hayes

Just a Gumbleton to Pods trade would be much more worth while imo. Also, stick with Hall. If you picked him at the start of the year then you should have been prepared to ride out his ups and downs. There may have been more downs than ups lately but overall the Bulldogs havent been playing their best footy. If/When they do, Hall will only benefit DT wise.

 

[magpies03]

Just a Gumbleton to Pods trade would be much more worth while imo. Also, stick with Hall. If you picked him at the start of the year then you should have been prepared to ride out his ups and downs. There may have been more downs than ups lately but overall the Bulldogs havent been playing their best footy. If/When they do, Hall will only benefit DT wise.

ALso Hall is playing Adelaide this week who are ranked 16th in defence in the 2009 season

 

[WoGiTaLiA]

Agreed, but also run the risk of those exact players getting rested during DT finals time.. a la St Kilda last year.

Far less likely than the players that get shut down in bad teams and not as bad.

Check Last year, guys like Cornes, Cox and Kerr were all shut down for minor surgeries for injuries they could have played through because of being in bad teams.

Worrying about teams resting players is just going to far. Don't pick injury prone players but outside of that, that side of the game is out of your control.

 

[magpies03]

Far less likely than the players that get shut down in bad teams and not as bad.

Check Last year, guys like Cornes, Cox and Kerr were all shut down for minor surgeries for injuries they could have played through because of being in bad teams.

Worrying about teams resting players is just going to far. Don't pick injury prone players but outside of that, that side of the game is out of your control.

Exactly!

Also Stkilda and Geelong were a LONG way ahead of the pack last year. Stkilda were undefeated and Geelong had second spot locked in for the majority of the season. The comp looks like it could be a fair bit closer this year with more teams emerging as genuine finals contenders. Doubt Stkild and Geelong will be resting players this season if there is a home final at state

 

[Just_ace]

Just a Gumbleton to Pods trade would be much more worth while imo. Also, stick with Hall. If you picked him at the start of the year then you should have been prepared to ride out his ups and downs. There may have been more downs than ups lately but overall the Bulldogs havent been playing their best footy. If/When they do, Hall will only benefit DT wise.

I picked him in the hope he could string together some 80's and go up 50k then out. Just by trading gimpleton to pods doesn't give me enough cash to get a couple of fallen premium stars like my original plan by round 7.