Opinion Dustin Martin is better than Dangerfield

[Vassp]

both fabulous players, breaking lines and taking on the game.

I feel Danger has the edge overhead but dusty is the next level player due to:
1) Dusty has better balance, Ablett like if you will, meaning he can keep his feet, This trait allows the following;
2) move in tight and even dispose cleanly with someone hanging off of him
3) having confidence of balance and clean disposal, he's composed under pressure. Danger's option is brute force and if that fails, loose his feet.
4) naturally a cleaner disposal
5) one of the few players that uses his brain and kicks the footy like a soccer ball.........why has this taken 100+ years of the game to learn soccer skills?
6) consistency in being ready at year's end when it matters
7) a big game player
8) team first approach vs danger trying to do too much when the team is under pressure



Freo is by second side, so it is with "love" I feel danger and fyfe are more similar players. Where I feel Dusty and Ablett are a better comparison.

I'd also add, early in his career, I felt we'd never see the best of dusty due to a lack of discipline. Yet now I'm thinking if he carries on his good form, he'd be remembered like Ablett.

Very good analogy on Dusty. id like to add that he did play injured for a fair few game. he could barely move and he was still playing. shows how much conviction he had to play regardless if how his body was holding up.

 

[Fadge]

I dunno, I think what Dusty does looks more impressive on screen. Running fast itself isn't that impressive to most, unless you're surging towards goal. Dusty is so composed, so good in traffic, such good evasive skills, so accurate...Danger can't even kick straight. I think the only thing he's more impressive at is occasionally taking speccies. He's more a bull type like Judd, yet Judd was more effective with his disposals and didn't spray it as much.

My response was in the context of 'those who know nothing about football'.

Go to a junior game where many of the parents have NFI, and ask them who they were more impressed by:

1. The kid who runs fast and kicks it long, or
2. The kid who is composed, is a good baller user, and makes smart decisions with ball in hand.

Guarantee 9 out of 10 will select #1, and won't even know who you're talking about when you're referencing #2.

 

[PerthBoy86]

My response was in the context of 'those who know nothing about football'.

Go to a junior game where many of the parents have NFI, and ask them who they were more impressed by:

1. The kid who runs fast and kicks it long, or
2. The kid who is composed, is a good baller user, and makes smart decisions with ball in hand.

Guarantee 9 out of 10 will select #1, and won't even know who you're talking about when you're referencing #2.

Well under 10s is a different world from the AFL. Skills aren't exactly generally on display among the little tykes.

 

[Damon_3388]

Yep, this game shows the clear difference for me. Dustin the better player overall along with a better career.

he’s still behind Nat Fyfe though imo.

Fyfe and his brilliant 5-6 record in finals, and 53.04% H&A winning percentage...

If we're judging other greats on their wins and their finals achievements/failure, only fair to bring Fyfe's pretty mediocre record in that department into question.

 

[Fadge]

Well under 10s is a different world from the AFL. Skills aren't exactly generally on display among the little tykes.

Way to completely miss the point...

 

[Cdog71]

Ive noticed the better Danger plays it usually coincides with his team playing poorly especially at Adelaide.
Long runs to get a shot at goal
He is like the kid who was encouraged to be a hog and a kick chaser cause coaches just want use him to win cause he’s naturally hungry, and athletically better.

 

[Iceman!]

I was so caught up in the occasion I overlooked it was Danger who was unable to lay the tackle on Dusty

I realise it was late in the game and Cats no chance, but again Danger taking the easy option and not attacking the ball, just sitting back waiting for the easy assist.
Summed up his night.

Well that is just BS he was throwing his body at the contest all night, he had that brilliant chase down that should have led to an easy goal for the Cats. Back with the flight multiple times.

He was a bull and his first half was good, just not good enough.

 

[Stevi_Tigers]

Dusty just coasts through home and away doing just enough to help us win enough games for the double chance

When finals start dusty goes to a level danger just doesn’t have

 

[Bald]

Only Fyfe and Dusty are ahead of Dangerfield in the comp.

There's nothing wrong with that.

 

[BRWB]

Martin is in rare air now. He was a class above and the clear difference in a GF. It is rare that just one player can have such an impact in a GF. Not even Carey did that. Certainly not Dangerfield (unless you count knocking an unsuspecting bloke out).

Martin is the best player in the game. And it's not even that close.

 

[Billyc]

This thread need to remove the “opinion” logo. The subject line is not an opinion, it’s a fact

 

[Del165198]

Dangerfield in a canter. Not even close. He's also somebody you actually want around your club.

Posts that aged badly: this one

 

[AndrewShawble]

 

[Bazzar]

Well that is just BS he was throwing his body at the contest all night, he had that brilliant chase down that should have led to an easy goal for the Cats. Back with the flight multiple times.

He was a bull and his first half was good, just not good enough.

12 disp, 3 tackles, 3 1%ers in a GF is pretty ordinary for one of the games best and elite players.

 

[Stax on the mill]

Only Fyfe and Dusty are ahead of Dangerfield in the comp.

There's nothing wrong with that.

Exactly. The voice of reason. Don’t understand why some on here feel the need to denigrate and belittle a champion of the game in Dangerfield, in order to emphasise the brilliance of Dustin Martin. After all, it’s not as if any of them are actually qualified to pass judgement. None of them would have played AFL, and some of the non-entities commenting wouldn’t have played football at all.

 

[TooFar]

I know he compensates for it well enough, but Martin has no left foot and it does hurt him occasionally. Danger can kick well on both sides.

 

[Bungeye]

Dusty is the only big time player of the last 30 years!

Which is embarrassing for the AFL when other team sports around the world have hundreds more.

Nobody can argue the damning stat that most teams in the last 30 years of Grand finals have choked in the 2nd half.

But the excuse I often hear is "The other team were just too good though"

People should stop making excuses for mediocrity.

 

[Macpotata]

Thread starter is a genius. Dusty went on to win the Brownlow and Morm Smith the next year as well as a prem. 2 more prems and two more Norm Smith's.



Legendary call.

 

[BrutThough]

Martin is a superstar in both the midfield and forward line while Dangerfield being a gun forward capable of winning a Coleman is the biggest myth in the AFL.

 

[TooFar]

12 disp, 3 tackles, 3 1%ers in a GF is pretty ordinary for one of the games best and elite players.

I would lay some of the blame on the coach. He spent far too long standing at one end of the ground. He was completely missing in the 3rd quarter when he was needed on the ball.

 

[glengowan]

Danger. He was better at the Crows.

 

[Del165198]

Only Fyfe and Dusty are ahead of Dangerfield in the comp.

There's nothing wrong with that.

Rubbish, you'd have Neale, Boak and petracca ahead of him on this year's form.

Even Hawkins has been more important to geelongs efforts in 2020 than clangers.

 

[theyellowsash]

I actually disagree with this.

I think it's the football purists who appreciate Dusty more. We appreciate his team first approach, his ability to pick the right option whether it be a deft handball or a short 20 metre pass around his body, and his ability to step up in big games and big moments.

Those who know nothing about football will look at Dangerfield and say 'Gee, he's fast and can kick the ball a long way', a bit like the parents who are asked to occasionally vote in their kid's U12 Best and Fairest despite knowing nothing about the game.

So you're saying the footy media is uneducated. Agreed

 

[GROTTO]

One night, the difference is clear.

Compare the pair?

 

[Cobbler]

The fact Fyfe and Dangerfield are even being argued in the same breath as Dusty is good enough for me as a Freo fan.

Dusty cements his place as All Time, there was little doubt after a Brownlow and 2 Norms, but 3? With an exclamation point? Yeah he’s All Time.

Fyfe with 2 Brownlows will also forever be held in discussions.