Yep, small matter of a salary cap. 3 players for $3m doesn't work.
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Traded Dylan Shiel [traded with future 2nd to Essendon for #9 and future 1st round pick]
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Yep, small matter of a salary cap. 3 players for $3m doesn't work.
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GWS can then trade that pick for a ruckman which will fix a glaring hole in their list.
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And your point is?
You are currently miles off being competitive let alone pushing for finals.
Absolutely delusional to think you will be contending in 2020
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Lobb is an interesting one. I'm no GWS list expert but I assume that the greatest list need for GWS (if there is such a need) is to upgrade their ruck stocks.
If he goes, GWS recieves some currency in return. If Shiel goes, GWC recieves (a lot) more currency. Does GWS throw all of that currency at a club in return for one of the league's premium rucks?
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Or maybe it’s up to you to find a top 10 pick for him this year
Okay, so you've taken my usage of playing finals as contending.
They are not synonymous.
5 years is you sprouting complete garbage, that sort of hyperbole isn't necessary.
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GWS do not want picks, they want trading currency to insta-fix their list and cap imbalances to go for 2019 flag.
Delusional to believe we could have once finished outside the eight and still won a final.
Hang around good time are coming back...
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This makes no sense. Trading currency = picks.
GWS need to make a call on who and what is missing in their current list. They need to target those players using the currency they obtain in trades.
The cap prevents them from selling the farm to obtain free agents without any trades. There has to be give and take.
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uhh, let me spell it out further then.
GWS do not want picks to keep for new recruits, they want picks to use as trade currency.
Thought that was pretty clear.
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Sorry, read your post out of context
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I’m guessing that hawthorn have decided to withdraw from allowing Shiel to play for them if they are no longer represented in the last 3 pages? They must have worked out that there was some flaw in his game.
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Not an issue. St Kilda only just meet the 95% cap minimum, and that’s with years of front-loading contracts. Hell, they were struggling to meet it whilst paying Riewoldt and Montagna “overs” in their final years, and their loss cleared a huge amount (was intended for Free Agents but the club is a mess so no one came and they had to re-jig contracts).
So they have a large number of players on relative peanuts, plus the ability to spend 105% of the cap for three years. It wouldn’t be inconceivable, but it’s not going to happen because there’s no way Shiel and Gaff would come across.
Wait you changed your tune from you know & have known before anyone else even knew he was a possibility of being traded to, “Carlton & St Kilda must be offering more”, what happened to the confidence?
I assume it took a hike over to the Wingard thread.
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If he nominates Carlton, and not sure why he would, I would say pick 1 for Shiel and Gws 1st pick (or Setterfield)
Carlton would still win those trades imo.
Carlton would still win those trades imo.
Carlton would have to add something to that deal, he's worth a top 3 pick on his own.
Maybe something like this
Shiel and 12 for pick 1 and 24
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Don't worry about Carlton, we are a rabble. Even if players want to be traded to us - We wont be a threat to any of you guys in the very near future. Really.
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Pretty sure Shiels exit interview is today.
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From some reports, I think it was yesterday.
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Yes it was.
He will announce next week that he wants to come home to Melbourne and the Hawks are his preferred destination.
A lot of water to go under the bridge because at least 3 other clubs are also very interested.
The Hawks are working on another deal that could make it very hard to get Dylan given that some other clubs can offer more money and better draft picks.
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