EDFL Premier Discussion 2022

[chickenonachain]

IMO the trouble with pacco was the coaching let O’Brien and Vavra do what they want no accountability through the midfield. Then after halftime put the fullback in the ruck ( good move) get some momentum going their way only to put Sikora back in the ruck at the start of the last was like deflating a balloon. Strathmore we’re to good but they were allowed to do what they wanted.

 

[BlueJet]

How can you say Pacco have closed the gap? Beat a Keilor side who were nothing like the Keilor of the last 4-5 years due to injury and a few older players cooked.
All things equal Pacco are still 10 goals off a premiership. We hear every pre season they’ve improved.
They didn’t.


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I believe it was tongue in cheek, based on:

'the last time these two played in a final (2019) Pacco couldn’t manage a goal in the first but at least they got one in todays first half'.

Without wishing to kick them whilst they're down (making finals & knocking off Keilor is nothing to sneer at) but given their run of heavy losses come finals time, I'd be curious on peoples thoughts as to why?
They've changed coaches, recruit strongly year in year out but seem to falter at the same stage. Is it a depth issue? Wrong types of players?

 

[Bashen]

Strathmore loss to Abbers I’m putting down as a hiccup. They will win the flag, did they get any injuries ???


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[ZingerAbed]

Strathmore lose to Abbers I’m putting down as a hiccup. They will win the flag, did they get any injuries ???


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Strathmore had 3 changes from Semi to Prelim… not sure if forced changes or not

Abers also had a few outs not sure if they’re a chance to return but will be very interesting!

I definitely think the 2 best teams are playing off in the grand final.

Abers by 17. Meese BOG

 

[Bashen]

Strathmore had 3 changes from Semi to Prelim… not sure if forced changes or not

Abers also had a few outs not sure if they’re a chance to return but will be very interesting!

I definitely think the 2 best teams are playing off in the grand final.

Abers by 17. Meese BOG

2 best teams made it to the final dance 1000% should be a cracker!!


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[Turbos mail]

2 best teams made it to the final dance 1000% should be a cracker!!


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Abers clearly the best side all year and the other 3 we’re playing for second. Good win and deserved there spot in the GF but I can see it being a total blowout and not sure it will be worth spending $20 ( or is it $30 for GF) to go and see it. Unless Strathmore go down the physical side early, which is not beyond them, then can’t see em getting close to Abers.
Abers by 85 points.
Macron for BOG

 

[Gremlin77]

Abers clearly the best side all year and the other 3 we’re playing for second. Good win and deserved there spot in the GF but I can see it being a total blowout and not sure it will be worth spending $20 ( or is it $30 for GF) to go and see it. Unless Strathmore go down the physical side early, which is not beyond them, then can’t see em getting close to Abers.
Abers by 85 points.
Macron for BOG

Glad to see you haven’t taken Pacco’s loss to heart Turbo .

Strathmore I’m sure will make a much better contest of it this time around and could be a great Grand Final. Both clubs deserve their spot and with so many stars on both teams it should be very entertaining.

I’m tipping Mores by 1. After the siren. In overtime!

Will Jury - BOG

 

[Stax on the mill]

Abers clearly the best side all year and the other 3 we’re playing for second. Good win and deserved there spot in the GF but I can see it being a total blowout and not sure it will be worth spending $20 ( or is it $30 for GF) to go and see it. Unless Strathmore go down the physical side early, which is not beyond them, then can’t see em getting close to Abers.
Abers by 85 points.
Macron for BOG

Last bit a trifle churlish, ungracious and sour, Turbo, and not in keeping with your normal lofty standards.

Abers are definite favourites, and deservedly so. Hopefully though, your prediction of an 85 point Abers demolition job is about as accurate as your forecast of a 55 point Pacco win in the preliminary final.

A number of instances in past 20 years of clubs absolutely dominating a season, even more than Abers have this season, but then going on to lose the GF. Keilor 2003, Greenvale 2008,2009, Strathmore 2012 spring to mind.

 

[Bashen]

Last bit a trifle churlish, ungracious and bitter Turbo, even by your normal lofty standards.

Abers are definite favourites, and deservedly so. Hopefully though, your prediction of an 85 point Abers demolition is about as accurate as your forecast of a 55 point Pacco win in the preliminary final.

A number of instances in past 20 years of clubs absolutely dominating a season even more than Abers have this season, but then going on to lose the GF. Keilor 2003, Greenvale 2008,2009, Strathmore 2012 spring to mind.

You guys forgot Starthmore lost by a point to Abbers when they should of won easy, they choked.

Then they demolished Abbers then Abbers returned the favour.

50/50 game way I see it… people not giving strathmore the credit they deserve, they win this game if at strength


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[bangfrom50]

You guys forgot Starthmore lost by a point to Abbers when they should of won easy, they choked.

Then they demolished Abbers then Abbers returned the favour.

50/50 game way I see it… people not giving strathmore the credit they deserve, they win this game if at strength


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Pacco need to replace Morell

 

[AllHart]

Hi folks. Here's my LAST HALF game day scenes from last Saturday's Preliminary Final played at Highgate Reserve. Enjoy.

 

[sloth6]

You guys forgot Starthmore lost by a point to Abbers when they should of won easy, they choked.

Then they demolished Abbers then Abbers returned the favour.

50/50 game way I see it… people not giving strathmore the credit they deserve, they win this game if at strength


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Mores would be hoping for a much drier and faster deck at Windy Hill this time round you’d reckon Bash?

 

[Bashen]

Mores would be hoping for a much drier and faster deck at Windy Hill this time round you’d reckon Bash?

No idea mate didn’t go to the last game.


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[Turbos mail]

Last bit a trifle churlish, ungracious and sour, Turbo, and not in keeping with your normal lofty standards.

Abers are definite favourites, and deservedly so. Hopefully though, your prediction of an 85 point Abers demolition job is about as accurate as your forecast of a 55 point Pacco win in the preliminary final.

A number of instances in past 20 years of clubs absolutely dominating a season, even more than Abers have this season, but then going on to lose the GF. Keilor 2003, Greenvale 2008,2009, Strathmore 2012 spring to mind.

Why are they using they sh$$ ground at Highgate for finals, especially a prelim. Just total BS. Play them all at windy hill or just play em all at the sh@@ ground at Highgate.

 

[Stax on the mill]

Why are they using they sh$$ ground at Highgate for finals, especially a prelim. Just total BS. Play them all at windy hill or just play em all at the sh@@ ground at Highgate.

I agree. I much prefer Windy Hill though.

 

[chickenonachain]

Why are they using they sh$$ ground at Highgate for finals, especially a prelim. Just total BS. Play them all at windy hill or just play em all at the sh@@ ground at Highgate.

There’s no atmosphere at highgate lucky it wasn’t windy. Premier division should be played at windy hill full stop. You play the highest standard at the best venue lower divisions at a different venue that’s the way it should be done

 

[stroketurboego]

Really! Grand finals were played at windy hill on the weekend. Don’t they take precedence over a preliminary final?
The GF is played at windy hill . Not sure what the issue is!


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[bangfrom50]

Mores would be hoping for a much drier and faster deck at Windy Hill this time round you’d reckon Bash?

Mores to win... Plan on physically attacking Abers

 

[Turbos mail]

Really! Grand finals were played at windy hill on the weekend. Don’t they take precedence over a preliminary final?
The GF is played at windy hill . Not sure what the issue is!


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Hey bestie where you been?

Well they need to schedule it differently if that’s what they want. Premier finals should not be played 1 week at Windy Hill, next at Sh@@gate, next back at Windy Hill. Total joke.

Could have played the div2 GF at Keilors ground or change fixturing to accommodate it all.

 

[BlueJet]

If it's good enough for the Cannons, it's good enough for local footy.
You'd think, given the bleating, that it's a substandard venue out there.

 

[late inclusion]

The myth of Digby being some sort of supercoach has been well and truely put to bed. Panicked early and showed no faith in his players or system. Threw the magnets around for no real result.

 

[Turbos mail]

The myth of Digby being some sort of supercoach has been well and truely put to bed. Panicked early and showed no faith in his players or system. Threw the magnets around for no real result.

Gee you jump on people quickly. He has done a reasonably good job at Pacco and also his previously jobs. One of the better coaches going around.
You guys have wrapped up coaches that cheated the salary cap and all sorts of things.
Digby puts a lot of time into coaching especially during a difficult period where coaching is not as attractive as it once was. Not as many people willing to put there hand up to coach thesedays either.

 

[bangfrom50]

Gee you jump on people quickly. He has done a reasonably good job at Pacco and also his previously jobs. One of the better coaches going around.
You guys have wrapped up coaches that cheated the salary cap and all sorts of things.
Digby puts a lot of time into coaching especially during a difficult period where coaching is not as attractive as it once was. Not as many people willing to put there hand up to coach thesedays either.

Turbo , I'm on your side in a lot of things but on this one, you've got it wrong.

No.1 - Cheating the salary cap , cmon mate , there is absolutely no way that Pacco are or have been under the cap since Diggers has been there. That does not excuse the other clubs cheating
No.2 - Done a reasonable job.. OK , I'll give you that but so he should for the amount he is receiving. May not be as much as McGuane but Diggers is one of the more highly paid coaches in the League
No.3 - A good coach get's the best out of his playing List(Horne , McGuane , even the bloke from Avondale who has a poor list but still seem to compete every game).. Pacco had as good a list as any and this year was their opportunity, but failed..
No.4 - Talk to any old bloke at Pacco(I'm talking past EDFL Presidents) , and they tell you the club would drop Diggers in a heart beat if they could secure McGuane)

Diggers is a good bloke and no doubt does his best and is a good clubman but that does not make him a good coach. It seems with the culture at Pacco they need a strong figure head to weed out the individuals holding them back , Diggers has had his go and has shown he's not the man for the job.

 

[1st time long time]

Turbo , I'm on your side in a lot of things but on this one, you've got it wrong.

No.1 - Cheating the salary cap , cmon mate , there is absolutely no way that Pacco are or have been under the cap since Diggers has been there. That does not excuse the other clubs cheating
No.2 - Done a reasonable job.. OK , I'll give you that but so he should for the amount he is receiving. May not be as much as McGuane but Diggers is one of the more highly paid coaches in the League
No.3 - A good coach get's the best out of his playing List(Horne , McGuane , even the bloke from Avondale who has a poor list but still seem to compete every game).. Pacco had as good a list as any and this year was their opportunity, but failed..
No.4 - Talk to any old bloke at Pacco(I'm talking past EDFL Presidents) , and they tell you the club would drop Diggers in a heart beat if they could secure McGuane)

Diggers is a good bloke and no doubt does his best and is a good clubman but that does not make him a good coach. It seems with the culture at Pacco they need a strong figure head to weed out the individuals holding them back , Diggers has had his go and has shown he's not the man for the job.

Crikey you've gone hard!! I'm not sure anyone on here (including myself) would have thought Pacco would have made a Pre Lim final this season. Are you forgetting that Strathmore have not made a GF since 2014? Building lists takes time, especially when Pacco haven't had a strong junior base like 'the big 3'.

In other news I'm hearing Luke Jarrod has a hamstring injury, hardly played the 2nd half on Saturday.

 

[Gremlin77]

Crikey you've gone hard!! I'm not sure anyone on here (including myself) would have thought Pacco would have made a Pre Lim final this season. Are you forgetting that Strathmore have not made a GF since 2014? Building lists takes time, especially when Pacco haven't had a strong junior base like 'the big 3'.

In other news I'm hearing Luke Jarrod has a hamstring injury, hardly played the 2nd half on Saturday.

Missing Luke Jarrad would a big blow for Strathmore. Class act but his experience and composure behind the ball will be missed greatly.

Think it’s pretty harsh the criticism of Morell, he has taken 2 clubs to a Premiership in Strathmore and West Coburg, and at West Coburg he kept them in Premier for 4 or 5 seasons avoiding the common yo-yo from Div.1 premiers. Winning a final this years off the back of consecutive wins against Keilor is a good coaching effort. On Saturday he ran into the form team of the comp for the last 10 weeks. The bloke can obviously coach. Bit rich the salary comment Turbo though, imagine they would be spending $250K+ and seem to have high profile players go missing in finals but to lump it all on Diggers seems unfair.

In saying that Morell’s voice and message might be getting a bit stale for the Pacco group and they might just need a new voice and fresh message/plans. I’m sure Diggers would little trouble finding another senior job