EDFL Premier Division

[Turbos mail]

Turbo, whilst I think I agree with your thoughts on this home grown topic, can I just clarify you perfect model. For mine, not the West Coburg model stated above.
Mentioned on here previously Strathmore had 12-14 home growns in last years premiership side. Obviously the other 10 or so were quality players but would I be right in saying 5-6 of the home growns would have been in there top 10. Not easily done i know but having 4 home growns in your top 10 is gold as they stay home. Recruits come and go. Your thoughts Turbo?

LFDE, yes I agree with you that Strathmore did well with their list last year and taking the prize, however this year have fallen off the pace and don't seem to have a lot of injuries. I guess they did have a good run there for many years which is more than most clubs have achieved. So what's happening there now? I see there juniors are not as prominent as some other years so have they maybe dropped the ball somewhat? Just questions!
Now what I do know is Strathmore is actively talking to recruits for next year and offering some ridiculous amounts. And I'm not talking about the ex AFL players rumoured to be heading there.

A club like West Coburg I assume are playing a lot of locals due to not having a big budget to recruit in "big name" players so this option is better than paying some duds 200-400 when it's better to pay a local some $$. I guess they have a plan!! They have been pretty competitive in most games.

What's the perfect formula?
Clubs need to employ Junior Development Managers to watch there junior games and track progress for their club. Then work with the senior coach on keeping them on track for senior footy. This person needs to be independent and have no connection to any junior player.

I'm sure on this forum this is many ex local footy players and let's be honest, local players have been paid less than recruits for years now. You know the story the "local" kid is maybe better than a recruit but being paid much less. Been happening for years!!! If the players feels hard done by or cracks it. they leave for more $$ but the "local" that stays is like gold..

I was just talking to someone today and my type of player is someone who understands their value and asks for a fair amount (maybe plus 100-200 or incentitives) as these type of players are gold and much loved by the club and respected by team mates. Players that just ask for say 500-1000 more than there value are not worth having. If they come across they only leave after 2 years when you re negotiate their contract. Yes if your a wrecking ball then maybe your worth a bit extra.. or a big strong aggressive ruckman who can mark & kick.

The only thing I like about the points system is clubs will need to recruit smartly. Need to have balance across all lines. Not stockpile or offer a player huge money just because you don't want to play against them.

Footy clubs are now a business and the average Joe blow cannot run a footy club any longer. You need to get a smart business person who knows footy...

 

[47 monkeys]

Over the last 5 years Pacco would of had more ins and outs than abers but have recruited the wrong people. They have recruited mercenaries and the homegrowns/locals were sick of seeing these mercenaries come and go for large chunks of money. No wonder homegrowns don't stick around with blokes like you hanging around. If they are worth 600 then pay them 600. Not 300-400 because they are a "local" or "homegrown" and won't leave the club they love. Because they will.

 

[Turbos mail]

Your a hit all over the shop, Turbo. Early in the year it was all about homegrowns and developing your own but when it get called out that Pacco have **** all homegrowns you claim you can't win anything with too many homegrowns.

You were also spraining early on that Pacco would be pushing Abers for the flag but now you've dropped off you claim the club would just be happy to win a final.
Let's be honest, Pacco have recruited to make a massive push for the flag, anything other than a gf spot would be a failure.

One other thing, are you involved at Pacco or just a keen supporter ?
Have you got a family member playing there ?
How long have you followed and why so keen to see them succeed ?

Now Weeney don't you support Marby? If so then let's remember Marby was on its knees not so long ago. GA's $$ and some hard work got Marby back up and running on the back of plenty of recruits lead by the great man Heath Ayres. Club won premierships and now have a good junior base, when at one stage your juniors were really struggling.

Ok back to your question.
-Yes clubs need homegrowns it's simple. But you also need to have good recruits. It's a balancing act. Pacco are similar to Marby in where a few other clubs are close neighbours so your competing for kids/families. We don't have an area like Greenvale in where young families are moving out to and no real neighbouring club. So we need to recruit mid age players and try our hardest to keep them for many years, and in the meantime develop from within for future sustainability. Success brings people in!!!! That's the concrete & mortar and build the blocks around it!!

-Pacco definitely have the list to challenge but been hit hard by injuries. Probably more than the other 3 finals bound sides. Pacco do struggle for depth mainly due to the homegrown point discuss.
Look let's face some simple facts, Abers have gone crazy on recruiting this year. Surely one of the best lists (by names) ever assembled in metro/country footy let alone the EDFL. They could possibly beat some VFL sides on there day. Spending huge coin as we all know. Yes Pacco are spending as well, but no where near Abers.
Abers are undefeated and the shortest priced favourite in a long, long time. Can anyone beat them, probably not, but who knows. Got to give it your best shot, and just throw everything at them. For the leagues reputation I hope it's a great close finals series.

- Pacco have a plan for success and it's not based on 1 year mate. It's building so whatever they achieve this year they will improve next year..

-I follow Pacco in no "offical" capacity but thats all I will say..
-No family member there and I don't even live in the area.
-I have been following Pacco since late 2013, but don't get to all games due to some other commitments.
-Pacco is one of the best clubs I have been involved with. Why? Very down to earth people there who made me feel welcome. Not the biggest club but hard working genuine people who always say hello. The players there always willing to have a chat about anything to the supporters, and no carry on or trouble of any kind that I've seen.
So I suppose to me I take that as being a strong family club with good culture.

I also like that they haven't won an A Grade premiership so it's something to aim for. How good a feeling would it be to win one. That to me is what some players need to consider when weighing up offers. How good would it be if you happen to win it. People will remember you forever, compared to just another name on the club wall. Give the supporters great enjoyment..

Last but not least, this premier competition is a great standard of footy played in the right spirit. I honestly can't recall seeing a really bad incident in premier over my last 5 or so years.
The supporters are well behaved and a place anyone can bring there family or kids and watch a game without listening to idiots carry on.
You can even stand in the oppositions area and have a beer if you like.

Example:
1- Both Pacco v Greenvale games this year had large crowds. All passionate supporters building the atmosphere. That's what footy is all about.
2- I can stand amongst Keilor supporters with my Pacco hoodie on having a beer, chat, yelling a bit of banter, but all in good spirits.
3- Going into the Abers social club with my Pacco hoodie on, after having a fair sip, and enjoying the aftermatch. Throwing out a bit of humour and even offered a piece of pizza. Well it was vegetarian, so I'm guessing no one wanted it.. Lol

How's that reply Weeney..

Far out that just took me an hour to write Weeney. Hope you appreciate it!! Lol

 

[Turbos mail]

Over the last 5 years Pacco would of had more ins and outs than abers but have recruited the wrong people. They have recruited mercenaries and the homegrowns/locals were sick of seeing these mercenaries come and go for large chunks of money. No wonder homegrowns don't stick around with blokes like you hanging around. If they are worth 600 then pay them 600. Not 300-400 because they are a "local" or "homegrown" and won't leave the club they love. Because they will.

Hey 47, I haven't been there for 5 years but you have little idea unless your 1 of these so called players. Agree pay them what there worth BUT not overs just because they got another offer from some club. This is not how you run a club. Maybe they have recruited some mercenaries over the years JUST like other clubs have done, but have now got players that suit where the club is going.
Also you wouldn't know what players are getting paid would you.

You have taken my quote on local players getting paid the wrong way. You have no idea and I could give you plenty of examples but won't. What do you want. All players on incentitives yeah..

Didn't an ex player go and coach in another league in a lower division and took a lot of players. That's very poor in my book and most people's. Did they get offered "overs" probably.

Now give the readers something instead of potting a club. Even being there a short time I could probably guess who you are..

 

[palexxxx]

No tips yet for this round?

Well, mine are: Airport West in a close one,
Keilor by 3 goals,
Strathmore by 15 goals,
Avondale Hts by 2 goals,
and Aberfeldie by 8 goals.

 

[edflinsider]

Now Weeney don't you support Marby? If so then let's remember Marby was on its knees not so long ago. GA's $$ and some hard work got Marby back up and running on the back of plenty of recruits lead by the great man Heath Ayres. Club won premierships and now have a good junior base, when at one stage your juniors were really struggling.

Ok back to your question.
-Yes clubs need homegrowns it's simple. But you also need to have good recruits. It's a balancing act. Pacco are similar to Marby in where a few other clubs are close neighbours so your competing for kids/families. We don't have an area like Greenvale in where young families are moving out to and no real neighbouring club. So we need to recruit mid age players and try our hardest to keep them for many years, and in the meantime develop from within for future sustainability. Success brings people in!!!! That's the concrete & mortar and build the blocks around it!!

-Pacco definitely have the list to challenge but been hit hard by injuries. Probably more than the other 3 finals bound sides. Pacco do struggle for depth mainly due to the homegrown point discuss.
Look let's face some simple facts, Abers have gone crazy on recruiting this year. Surely one of the best lists (by names) ever assembled in metro/country footy let alone the EDFL. They could possibly beat some VFL sides on there day. Spending huge coin as we all know. Yes Pacco are spending as well, but no where near Abers.
Abers are undefeated and the shortest priced favourite in a long, long time. Can anyone beat them, probably not, but who knows. Got to give it your best shot, and just throw everything at them. For the leagues reputation I hope it's a great close finals series.

- Pacco have a plan for success and it's not based on 1 year mate. It's building so whatever they achieve this year they will improve next year..

-I follow Pacco in no "offical" capacity but thats all I will say..
-No family member there and I don't even live in the area.
-I have been following Pacco since late 2013, but don't get to all games due to some other commitments.
-Pacco is one of the best clubs I have been involved with. Why? Very down to earth people there who made me feel welcome. Not the biggest club but hard working genuine people who always say hello. The players there always willing to have a chat about anything to the supporters, and no carry on or trouble of any kind that I've seen.
So I suppose to me I take that as being a strong family club with good culture.

I also like that they haven't won an A Grade premiership so it's something to aim for. How good a feeling would it be to win one. That to me is what some players need to consider when weighing up offers. How good would it be if you happen to win it. People will remember you forever, compared to just another name on the club wall. Give the supporters great enjoyment..

Last but not least, this premier competition is a great standard of footy played in the right spirit. I honestly can't recall seeing a really bad incident in premier over my last 5 or so years.
The supporters are well behaved and a place anyone can bring there family or kids and watch a game without listening to idiots carry on.
You can even stand in the oppositions area and have a beer if you like.

Example:
1- Both Pacco v Greenvale games this year had large crowds. All passionate supporters building the atmosphere. That's what footy is all about.
2- I can stand amongst Keilor supporters with my Pacco hoodie on having a beer, chat, yelling a bit of banter, but all in good spirits.
3- Going into the Abers social club with my Pacco hoodie on, after having a fair sip, and enjoying the aftermatch. Throwing out a bit of humour and even offered a piece of pizza. Well it was vegetarian, so I'm guessing no one wanted it.. Lol

How's that reply Weeney..

Far out that just took me an hour to write Weeney. Hope you appreciate it!! Lol

Were you get the time geez Ol mate can't be bothered reading all that anyway pacco any chance top 2 turbs?

 

[Herman Munster]

Knighta
Wellington
Little
Mayzy
Rae
Allison
Purcell
Foulds
Ingelton
Elliott
Van Meel
Kennedy
Sinnott
Horne
Wints (loyal from Westi)
Arrow (loyal)
Staudt
Pignolet
Rule
Stapelton

Mores win

Little played his junior football in the RDFL. Went to the Cannons, then Hawthorn, and then the VFL. Only went to the More because Richard was there. Richard also from the RDFL, via Cannons and Coburg. Arrow was from EK was he not?

 

[edflinsider]

No tips yet for this round?

Well, mine are: Airport West in a close one,
Keilor by 3 goals,
Strathmore by 15 goals,
Avondale Hts by 2 goals,
and Aberfeldie by 8 goals.

keilor 3 pt,, Mores heap,, Avondale 61,, west coburg 3,, Pacco 4 gl...

Little played his junior football in the RDFL. Went to the Cannons, then Hawthorn, and then the VFL. Only went to the More because Richard was there. Richard also from the RDFL, via Cannons and Coburg. Arrow was from EK was he not?

yeah arrow was EK original loyal but and a gun

Hey 47, I haven't been there for 5 years but you have little idea unless your 1 of these so called players. Agree pay them what there worth BUT not overs just because they got another offer from some club. This is not how you run a club. Maybe they have recruited some mercenaries over the years JUST like other clubs have done, but have now got players that suit where the club is going.
Also you wouldn't know what players are getting paid would you.

You have taken my quote on local players getting paid the wrong way. You have no idea and I could give you plenty of examples but won't. What do you want. All players on incentitives yeah..

Didn't an ex player go and coach in another league in a lower division and took a lot of players. That's very poor in my book and most people's. Did they get offered "overs" probably.

Now give the readers something instead of potting a club. Even being there a short time I could probably guess who you are..

you mean Terra at reservoir yeah mate isn't other ex EDFL take players there to like flavel and that not just Rooney and those ex pacco guys but be good to have at pacco now...

 

[Turbos mail]

Were you get the time geez Ol mate can't be bothered reading all that anyway pacco any chance top 2 turbs?

Ok insider, simply answer no!! Greenvale 4pts and % ahead.

you mean Terra at reservoir yeah mate isn't other ex EDFL take players there to like flavel and that not just Rooney and those ex pacco guys but be good to have at pacco now...

From all reports he was calling them all and got quite a few. Is was after they won the B grade flag if I'm correct. I understand coaches might take a few players they are close to, but raiding a lot of locals is pretty ordinary, don't you think. Take on the challenge I say, rather than take the easy road. "Do you stay and fight or run" Anyway it's in the past, we all must move on.

 

[Turbos mail]

Just watched edfl web TV and want to mention some things:
-Surely the league could supply them with some edfl shirts or those new edfl hoodies given to player of the round.
-Young Clare is doing an excellent job. She's not bad on the eye either!
-Why can't they get a 3rd microphone, as Clare holding the one between 2 people is not a good look.
-I think the new guy is going well. Doesn't he look like a young Matty Lloyd.

Cmon edfl step up and improve our image.

 

[edflinsider]

Ok insider, simply answer no!! Greenvale 4pts and % ahead.



From all reports he was calling them all and got quite a few. Is was after they won the B grade flag if I'm correct. I understand coaches might take a few players they are close to, but raiding a lot of locals is pretty ordinary, don't you think. Take on the challenge I say, rather than take the easy road. "Do you stay and fight or run" Anyway it's in the past, we all must move on.

not good mate if so but ask though if they were loyal they wouldn't left wasn't Terra a legend at pacco,,, will he come back??

 

[edflinsider]

Just watched edfl web TV and want to mention some things:
-Surely the league could supply them with some edfl shirts or those new edfl hoodies given to player of the round.
-Young Clare is doing an excellent job. She's not bad on the eye either!
-Why can't they get a 3rd microphone, as Clare holding the one between 2 people is not a good look.
-I think the new guy is going well. Doesn't he look like a young Matty Lloyd.

Cmon edfl step up and improve our image.

agree 1000% mate remember I bought this up while back i think the show is poor,, the bloke sarracoglou is good but seems a bit off if ta know what I mean Ol mate...

 

[Trent the flight Steward]

Sorry a sent to early.

Mate we are no retirement home as nearly all our recruits over the past 2 years are under 27 so we are trying to build a future. Ross, Warren, Veszpremi etc all under 27. The club really hopes these players stick around for many years and that's the culture we want. Yes we have I think 3 players over 30 that add experience.
It would be great to get Watson back but who knows. His young and might get another chance at AFL who knows. His just what we need for next year.
The coach has played some 18s throughout the last 2 years but really doubt we could get 12-16 homegrowns in our senior team. All sounds good in theory but our 18s can't produce these numbers each year. As I said even the Abers, Keilors etc don't have these numbers.

I don't wish to start debates but let's clarify what is a homegrown?? It's a junior that's come up through your junior program. Some clubs think it's someone you recruit and they stay for 4+ years. This is not a homegrown but a loyal player. This players are also worth having around and what we are all looking for.

So in closing it would be great to have 6-10 homegrowns, 10-14 loyal players, and some new recruits. You still must recruit to keep the list fresh and vibrant. Getting a Ross, Warren, Jackson etc gets the club up & about and then keeping guys like Tydell, TK are also so important.

I agree with you turby, homegrown is a a player who has worked their way up from the juniors,
Where do all paccos juniors go? Do they stop playing once they get to senior level? I'm sure a majority of clubs in the geelong league (arguably the best league in vic) would all have higher than 3locals play in their team and they have the disadvantage of kids moving for and uni that Pacco wouldn't have.
How many of your recruits do you really need, if you only had Ross, warren and Harris and didn't have a couple of recruits I don't think your position on the ladder would be to different

 

[milkman99]

I thought l'll go watch a quality premier division game since l had the weekend off edflinsider & went up to Pacco & see two quality sides play on the MCG of the edfl as turbo keeps telling us but when l arrived l thought l was at moorabbin in 80s someone must of left the sprinklers on over night, the ground was a disgrace

 

[snax]

Wow, Abers gave the Turbos mob a 10 goal touch up today...ouch..
wouldnt have tipped that..!
Dim Sims were top notch today though

 

[blue_bhoy]

another great win for the boys down the old calder highway, thats 8 in a row.

 

[edflinsider]

I thought l'll go watch a quality premier division game since l had the weekend off edflinsider & went up to Pacco & see two quality sides play on the MCG of the edfl as turbo keeps telling us but when l arrived l thought l was at moorabbin in 80s someone must of left the sprinklers on over night, the ground was a disgrace

probably better game than seeing Matty little kick dozen snagger... Feel for Ol Bops boys hope they go right back in divvy 1/b grade You mean Moorabbin like home supporters are feral or the ground was bad in the grass you mean??
what happen turbos Ol mate i was right you had of won top 2 was it yeah as Greenvale got done and mores up and about win next week against jets,,, Keilor killin it lately team to beat beaten everyone...

 

[Jackos]

probably better game than seeing Matty little kick dozen snagger... Feel for Ol Bops boys hope they go right back in divvy 1/b grade You mean Moorabbin like home supporters are feral or the ground was bad in the grass you mean??
what happen turbos Ol mate i was right you had of won top 2 was it yeah as Greenvale got done and mores up and about win next week against jets,,, Keilor killin it lately team to beat beaten everyone...

I see Houli got best on must of strapped up Ben W
Any reports from that game

 

[Turbos mail]

I thought l'll go watch a quality premier division game since l had the weekend off edflinsider & went up to Pacco & see two quality sides play on the MCG of the edfl as turbo keeps telling us but when l arrived l thought l was at moorabbin in 80s someone must of left the sprinklers on over night, the ground was a disgrace

Wow, Abers gave the Turbos mob a 10 goal touch up today...ouch..
wouldnt have tipped that..!
Dim Sims were top notch today though

Milkman- what can I say as I was expecting some comments due some early season posts on other grounds. Yeah agree ground is not in real good shape at present. Doesn't hold water well so issue with drainage that must be looked at. In there defence not much support from council as don't get looked after like some other clubs with lighting, etc. At least we didn't see any injuries I suppose.

Now on the game Pacco have 7 out of there best 22 not currently playing however Abers didn't have Riemers & Johns. Not sure if any others were missing. Abers way to good and to many "big" names for Pacco to contain. To much overall height in key positions, the little nuggety guys liked the conditions, and Abers to much run & spread for Pacco. The game was played in good spirits but some of the umpiring is starting to confuse me. Am I just seeing it different now Pacco have lost a couple, who knows, but I would love to know the free kick count.

It's all Abers this year, BUT if Graham goes down, maybe, just maybe, someone might get Abers on the last day. I'm not sure he liked the conditions. Now we all know players at Abers are well paid but Ryan Allan is a gun of the competition. They can't afford him to go down. Where did #28 Laurie come from? He looks like a good talent.
For Pacco I thought Bev did well on big Graham around the ground. Jackson is a beauty and quickly becoming a Pacco favourite. Urquart is a gun and hitting some good form.

Now I must make a comment on something I didn't like. The Abers runner hardly leaves the ground. Delivers a message a then stays in the middle of the ground moving around barking instructions. Only in the last 5 minutes when a supporter yelled out, that the umpire told him to leave the ground. Now he was holding is ear a bit. Did he have communication to the coach via an ear piece? Pretty ordinary if true.

Puffpuff, tell me it's not true please. If you don't believe me watch the video as both clubs had people record the game. He doesn't leave the ground. How long has this been going on for??

 

[Turbos mail]

I see Houli got best on must of strapped up Ben W
Any reports from that game

Jacko, the conditions suited him and Abers back 6 or 7 or 8 did well in blocking his space. Warren played ok and Houli just a dour defender. In all honesty mate, on a dry September Warren "should" destroy Houli but he does play close and sticks to his task.
Been a very loyal player Houli who really came from nowhere. Plucked from Newport-Keilor Park and came during Rioli's time at Abers. I'm sure the Abers faithful love his dedication and just does his job week in week out. Where do you find fullbacks like that? His probably the lowest paid at Abers to.. I know the first time they played Houli tried to play "really" close but in finals ( if they meet at all) Pacco won't put up with that. Pacco have some big forwards so will interesting.

Problem is will they meet in finals? Who knows..

 

[Interested Onlooker]

Jacko, the conditions suited him and Abers back 6 or 7 or 8 did well in blocking his space. Warren played ok and Houli just a dour defender. In all honesty mate, on a dry September Warren "should" destroy Houli but he does play close and sticks to his task.
Been a very loyal player Houli who really came from nowhere. Plucked from Newport-Keilor Park and came during Rioli's time at Abers. I'm sure the Abers faithful love his dedication and just does his job week in week out. Where do you find fullbacks like that? His probably the lowest paid at Abers to.. I know the first time they played Houli tried to play "really" close but in finals ( if they meet at all) Pacco won't put up with that. Pacco have some big forwards so will interesting.

Problem is will they meet in finals? Who knows..

Wouldn't call Houli a dour defender, creates a fair bit of attack. Houli beat Warren in the dry first time. Warren got a couple of junk time goals late. Think his higher up the pay scale then you think.

 

[sillyseason]

reimers, craven, Oswald and johns out for Abers. Pascoe vale got a bath today on possibly the worst ground conditions In premier division. Abers just wanted it more, that's why they are undefeated, every week they hastle and pressure a lot more than the opposition. Jackson, Harris and warren especially just want easy kicks, pulled out a few times. Dominate against lower rank sides and go missing against the Abers and greenvales

Do you watch the same game turbo. How can you say warren played well. Supposedly a goal kicker, probably had 1-2 possessions inside forward 50. Most of the time was on half back calling for a handball after a short kick to build his stats.

Anyway massive game next week Abers Keilor.

By the way edfl insider, Like how you said Keilor form side beating everybody when there is a team undefeated.

 

[Turbos mail]

Wouldn't call Houli a dour defender, creates a fair bit of attack. Houli beat Warren in the dry first time. Warren got a couple of junk time goals late. Think his higher up the pay scale then you think.

I respect your opinion but I think his more of a stopper but does have reasonable skills unlike the normal defined "dour" defender. The first game Warren looked dangerous early then Houli played closer. You must agree Abers do drop back and cover holes like the good drilled team they are. All things being equal Warren would kick a bag on him and they would need to put Allan back. If Pacco have Tydell and Wells forward it creates some space and players will want to be very courageous dropping back into the hole with these 2 around.
If Pacco are to have any chance against Abers there mids must win clearances and move it forward quick. I believe Paccos forward line is equal to anyone's, and with the right disposal will kick a winning score..

Let's forget the last 2 rounds and get into finals.. Haha

 

[Turbos mail]

reimers, craven, Oswald and johns out for Abers. Pascoe vale got a bath today on possibly the worst ground conditions In premier division. Abers just wanted it more, that's why they are undefeated, every week they hastle and pressure a lot more than the opposition. Jackson, Harris and warren especially just want easy kicks, pulled out a few times. Dominate against lower rank sides and go missing against the Abers and greenvales

Do you watch the same game turbofan. How can you say warren played well. Supposedly a goal kicker, probably had 1-2 possessions inside forward 50. Most of the time was on half back calling for a handball after a short kick to build his stats.

Anyway massive game next week Abers Keilor.

By the way edfl insider, Like how you said Keilor form side beating everybody when there is a team undefeated.

Now Silly where did I say Warren played well. I said he played ok. Just ok, but conditions didn't suit him.

Now your getting me fired up here. At least be honest Jackson & Harris want the easy kicks and pull out. You must be kidding!!! Are you only saying that because these 2 went in hard and gave out some good tackles and bumps. And potting Warren, well he is a full forward who relies on his talent & skill more so than being a physical player. Not sure he pulls out either. I do know your supporters like to give him some verbal abuse all because he decided to go to Pacco and reject the huge offer from Abers.

I'm at a loss to understand you really, as Jackson would have been in the best 3 players on the ground today. Harris has played at the top level and known as a courageous player, and I commend these guys that continue to play local footy into there 30s. You obviously don't know him well and what he does off the ground.

Now I'm not going to lower myself and mention anything negative against Abers players (as I actually wrapped some up) but Abers should be undefeated and beating other sides as your paying huge coin.. Some players shopped themselves around to clubs, and when they ask ridiculous amounts of money we just tell them to go call Abers.. FACT!

No wonder you have only posted twice in 2 years and even Abers people wouldn't like what you posted.

Only thing your correct on is the ground was muddy in parts. This is councils responsibility but when it's dry it's a great surface just doesn't seem to hold water well. Probably look to address this next year and maybe play some games at Windy Hill?? You have forgot we lost a player to a serious knee injury at Abers ground in perfect weather with a muddy centre square. Don't go throwing to many stones..

Do you wish to keep going?? I don't sleep and have big footy on alarm!! Haha

 

[Turbos mail]

Who will win the competition medal now Ben Ross not playing. Does he have enough votes already??

Will Browne win it again?
Ben Davies maybe a chance?
What about Ryan Allan? Do back man vote well?
Could Trent Shiners be s dark horse? Had a good year and in the umpires view?
Marbys Trent Lee maybe?