Recruiting EFC Trade/Draft Talk II with F/A rules in OP - Billings for a fourth rounder the latest rumour

[eth-dog]

The only concern I would have with taking Francis so high is that anyone can look like a star playing as loose man and taking intercept marks. Adam McPhee and Kepler Bradley seemed pretty damn good at one stage when they were doing the same thing. The same can be said for Oxley in a few Collingwood games this year.

Yes Francis has more weapons than those guys and I'm not trying to say he will end up like any of the above players, but it's just something to consider when determining the true worth of players in the draft and where they rank.

McPhee was incredibly underrated. He was an All Australian and was a very good player through the mid Noughties.

 

[WEEVZ]

The only concern I would have with taking Francis so high is that anyone can look like a star playing as loose man and taking intercept marks. Adam McPhee and Kepler Bradley seemed pretty damn good at one stage when they were doing the same thing. The same can be said for Oxley in a few Collingwood games this year.

Yes Francis has more weapons than those guys and I'm not trying to say he will end up like any of the above players, but it's just something to consider when determining the true worth of players in the draft and where they rank.

Wasn't always played as a 3rd tall/rebounding defender, spent a lot of time in the midfield in the carnival and up forward. Francis is easily in the top 5 most talented players in this draft pool.

Would rank the top 10 talents as:
1. Weitering
2. Schache
3. Francis
4. Parish
5. Mills
6. Hopper
7. Kennedy
8. Curnow
9. Milera
10. Weideman/Mathieson

 

[eth-dog]

Wasn't always played as a 3rd tall/rebounding defender, spent a lot of time in the midfield in the carnival and up forward. Francis is easily in the top 5 most talented players in this draft pool.

Would rank the top 10 talents as:
1. Weitering
2. Schache
3. Francis
4. Parish
5. Mills
6. Hopper
7. Kennedy
8. Curnow
9. Milera
10. Weideman/Mathieson

In terms of talent for me it'd be:

1. Weitering
2. Francis
3. Schache
4. Mills
5. Hopper
6. Kennedy
7. Curnow
8. Milera
9. Parish
10. Oliver

 

[Jade]

In terms of talent for me it'd be:

1. Weitering
2. Francis
3. Schache
4. Mills
5. Hopper
6. Kennedy
7. Curnow
8. Milera
9. Parish
10. Oliver

Christ I hope Melbourne sees it that way.....

 

[eth-dog]

Christ I hope Melbourne sees it that way.....

They'd take Francis? I'd disagree.

Parish is a bit vanilla for me.

 

[SherbertLemon]

McPhee was incredibly underrated. He was an All Australian and was a very good player through the mid Noughties.

He had one good year with us. Then we Essendon'd him.

 

[harry_caul]

If Parish is taken at 3 I would consider Milera at 4. Then Francis or Curnow at 5.

Milera looks awesome, but I'm pretty sure I'd be reluctant to take the punt at pick 5 because of that heart issue.

 

[Walesy]

McPhee was incredibly underrated. He was an All Australian and was a very good player through the mid Noughties.

He was very good that year, but earned the nickname dickfingers for a reason.

 

[Howard Moon]

West Coast has apparently delisted Colledge with a view to pick him up again in the rookie draft if he's available. We were interested during the trade period, time to sign him as a DFA?

Thought he was contracted?

 

[eth-dog]

Thought he was contracted?

We did the same with Aylett last year despite the contract.

 

[Howard Moon]

What even is a contract!

 

[Mercurial89]

What even is a contract!

Made up word that means nothing in the AFL world.

They have a whole book of them- integrity, culture, contract, governance.

You will get the hang of it

 

[Andronicus]

Was 09 or 10 for me.

Stallion always cracked me up with his posts but yeah BF is way better.

Agreed

lol

So new, yet already so wise in the ways of BF.

 

[fishardansin]

Shorten = Starlin

No Stalin was more charismatic.

 

[harry_caul]

lol

So new, yet already so wise in the ways of BF.

I've had my eye on y'all for a long time, lol.

 

[fishardansin]

Suns delisted Daniel Gorringe. Any interest.

Wouldn't trade him for a late pick one year but delist him the next. campaigners.

I'd actually be happy to take Daw as a rookie. Will be a good VFL player and a back up if injury hammers us.

 

[harry_caul]

No Stalin was more charismatic.

I actually reckon you're right. Much more.

 

[fishardansin]

A likely number one draft pick has hype, surprise surprise. Schache has had his colours lowered by Weitering when opposed to him this season, saying he is by far the hardest opponent he has matched up on because he can't get any seperation when leading. Schache dominated the champs, mostly because he was being fed by the best midfield and engaged in one on one's against poor opponents. Francis was by far the best player at the carnival.

Have you ever seen Weitering play? He was swung forward in the last quarter IIRC (could've been the third) against Eastern and managed 2.2 in a game where Dandenong struggled to score. So contrary to your opinion, he can go forward and have an impact. However his forward ability doesn't make him a good backman. His elite intercept marking, athleticism, reach, rebound, footskills and strength in 1v1's do which is why he won't be "just a good defender", he'll be an elite one.

**** Carlton.

 

[fishardansin]

I know this is totally dumb but for me Schache and Weitering just sound like German Techno producers

Didn't Schade sing the greatest song of all time? Smooth operator.

 

[fishardansin]

google the word Nominal..
Pretty sure there are no actual Nominal picks..

Point was why wouldn't you just call it 26..

Anyway, if you'd like to measure dicks on who has better English skills I suggest you concentrate on your nominal people skills..I did laugh when I saw what you said about how people treat you at parties..

Now, could you please point out where you proved me wrong "again" easy to make crap up....

Why you being a dick? Eth is a great bloke and you're getting carried away about .... ?

 

[fishardansin]

Got that one.

Safe to assume that Pears and NOB are around for next year

If we're serious NOB will be gone AND Pears as well. Replace them with Couglan and a ruckman. Brown/Hartley is cover for Pears.

 

[Old Campaigner]

A direct copy from a post I just put on the D&T board:

Very interesting note;

At the members forum last night, a member posed a question as to why Essendon had 'again' be fined by the AFL for breaching the Anti-Doping code. I don't know if any of you recall the incident in question, but here's a link for anyone interested:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-05/essendon-among-four-clubs-fined-for-asada-breach

The answer, given by Rob Kerr, was revealing. He said, very pointedly, that when players go on end of season leave, they are required to do a post season medical, and then attend the administration office to let the club know where they are going and when so that this information can be passed on to ASADA.

Whilst not mentioning Carlisle by name, he 'spat' (for lack of a better word), that a player that had 'quit the club', didn't show for either of these requirements; and the inference was very clear that it WAS Carlisle. Worth noting that Carlisle WAS still under contract at this time, and was obligated to complete these requirements.

In addition, Kerr thanked Hawthorn by name when discussing our off season activities and then stated, and I quote, that 'St Kilda attempted to stitch us up'.

These two pieces of information reaffirmed for me two facts that I thought were reasonably obvious even at the time:

1) Carlisle is an incredibly unprofessional person.
2) St Kilda acted like rank amateurs, and were deliberately attempting to 'under' a deal.

Absolutely deserving of each other. If I was a betting man I dare say in several years this deal is going to be looked at VERY harshly by St Kilda fans.

****ing lol

 

[DaniFletch]

So has list lodgement ended now that it is 5pm? Or am I a few days early?

 

[DaniFletch]

Wouldn't trade him for a late pick one year but delist him the next. campaigners.

I'd actually be happy to take Daw as a rookie. Will be a good VFL player and a back up if injury hammers us.

Rape trial

 

[Gumby2Hurley]

A direct copy from a post I just put on the D&T board:

Very interesting note;

At the members forum last night, a member posed a question as to why Essendon had 'again' be fined by the AFL for breaching the Anti-Doping code. I don't know if any of you recall the incident in question, but here's a link for anyone interested:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-05/essendon-among-four-clubs-fined-for-asada-breach

The answer, given by Rob Kerr, was revealing. He said, very pointedly, that when players go on end of season leave, they are required to do a post season medical, and then attend the administration office to let the club know where they are going and when so that this information can be passed on to ASADA.

Whilst not mentioning Carlisle by name, he 'spat' (for lack of a better word), that a player that had 'quit the club', didn't show for either of these requirements; and the inference was very clear that it WAS Carlisle. Worth noting that Carlisle WAS still under contract at this time, and was obligated to complete these requirements.

In addition, Kerr thanked Hawthorn by name when discussing our off season activities and then stated, and I quote, that 'St Kilda attempted to stitch us up'.

These two pieces of information reaffirmed for me two facts that I thought were reasonably obvious even at the time:

1) Carlisle is an incredibly unprofessional person.
2) St Kilda acted like rank amateurs, and were deliberately attempting to 'under' a deal.

Absolutely deserving of each other. If I was a betting man I dare say in several years this deal is going to be looked at VERY harshly by St Kilda fans.

I heard something on the lines that they did something similar to membrey where they ended up walking him to PSD.