England vs Sri Lanka 3 tests

[Gethelred]

Well what else can you do when the players you’ve got just aren’t up to it? You’ve picked this core group of guys who you backed in to play ‘normal’ cricket over the course of a couple of years and it was simply horrible.

You pick a new group and the results immediately improve exponentially on what they were in the two years before.

Exponentially? Can this be demonstrated, mathematically?

The question I have is whether the degree to which England's results improved resembles a regression to the mean rather than anything drastic. In short, I think they've underperformed since around 2014 and it's taken them this long to actually get their arses into gear.

The series results - ie. winning the ashes and winning in India, aren’t the results you crave, but you draw one of them, and the other you are probably going to lose regardless, so you probably have to just cop those anyway. I agree it’s not PROVEN, yet, but I think when you look at a combination of resources at their disposal, and results achieved, you can’t not say that it’s been a success.

I very specifically said, 'I dunno'. I want to see how they go down here - and in SA - before I actually profer a verdict in any direction.

And - again - the whole complaint about Bazball is that it's making a mountain out of a molehill and/or the whole 'moral victor' thing. The point of a coach is to try and find ways to improve, and to this point the excessive celebration of what could simply be a regression to the mean - taking wild advantage of the policies of the Bayliss era in promoting short form players and predicating selection based on batting speed - is what is causing criticism.

At least, outside of the criticism England rightfully cop anyway.

 

[PhatBoy]

Exponentially? Can this be demonstrated, mathematically?

The question I have is whether the degree to which England's results improved resembles a regression to the mean rather than anything drastic. In short, I think they've underperformed since around 2014 and it's taken them this long to actually get their arses into gear.

I very specifically said, 'I dunno'. I want to see how they go down here - and in SA - before I actually profer a verdict in any direction.

And - again - the whole complaint about Bazball is that it's making a mountain out of a molehill and/or the whole 'moral victor' thing. The point of a coach is to try and find ways to improve, and to this point the excessive celebration of what could simply be a regression to the mean - taking wild advantage of the policies of the Bayliss era in promoting short form players and predicating selection based on batting speed - is what is causing criticism.

At least, outside of the criticism England rightfully cop anyway.

From 2 out of 18 to whatever it is now - 18 out of 27 or something: I’d say that’s pretty exponential especially when you consider that they’ve been ‘in’ most of those 9 that they haven’t won. In those 16 that they didn’t win from before, they were not even close most of the time. This method has been giving them a ‘look’ in nearly every match.

Most definitely there’s still boxes it needs to tick and the fact is their bowling is probably going to mean they still don’t win that much anyway because to me it still looks decidedly mediocre.

 

[PhatBoy]

Mendis update:

8 runs away from a fifth century in 8 matches at lunch on day two

 

[Around the Wicket]

Mendis update:

8 runs away from a fifth century in 8 matches at lunch on day two

Sri Lanka have found a talent.. been a while.. good to see.

 

[THE A5]

Sri Lanka have found a talent.. been a while.. good to see.

Just need to make sure he doesn’t go the route of the other Mendis and even like a Nissanka

 

[Donnie Darko]

Exponentially? Can this be demonstrated, mathematically?

The question I have is whether the degree to which England's results improved resembles a regression to the mean rather than anything drastic. In short, I think they've underperformed since around 2014 and it's taken them this long to actually get their arses into gear.

I very specifically said, 'I dunno'. I want to see how they go down here - and in SA - before I actually profer a verdict in any direction.

And - again - the whole complaint about Bazball is that it's making a mountain out of a molehill and/or the whole 'moral victor' thing. The point of a coach is to try and find ways to improve, and to this point the excessive celebration of what could simply be a regression to the mean - taking wild advantage of the policies of the Bayliss era in promoting short form players and predicating selection based on batting speed - is what is causing criticism.

At least, outside of the criticism England rightfully cop anyway.

I remember in the Flower era , where the "experts" in this forum said it was a boring style of cricket.
Now the team adopts a more attacking style and that is "wrong" too apparently. The time that England won the Ashes they claimed it was "cheating" to have wickets that suited us. Its just that Australian cricket fans like you will never say anything good about English cricket .

Luckily The Australian team is reaching the end of the line. Most of the team is mid to late 30s in terms of age. From what I have heard you have got nothing coming through . Once Smith and Lyon are gone its going to be really rough for you.

 

[PhatBoy]

I remember in the Flower era , where the "experts" in this forum said it was a boring style of cricket.
Now the team adopts a more attacking style and that is "wrong" too apparently. The time that England won the Ashes they claimed it was "cheating" to have wickets that suited us. Its just that Australian cricket fans like you will never say anything good about English cricket .

Luckily The Australian team is reaching the end of the line. Most of the team is mid to late 30s in terms of age. From what I have heard you have got nothing coming through . Once Smith and Lyon are gone its going to be really rough for you.

Gethelred is one of the most impartial and knowledgeable posters on this forum. I understand his reservations

 

[MJG14]

No thread for SL v NZ so it's most appropriate here.

Kamindu Mendis gets to 1000 Test runs in 13 innings, the third fastest to achieve this in Tests and equalling Bradman based on innings played.

 

[magpiemaniac44]

Sri Lanka putting pressure on us in the WTC standings

Our series over there early next year could have a lot riding in it

 

[Around the Wicket]

Just need to make sure he doesn’t go the route of the other Mendis and even like a Nissanka

The other mendis average never really got above 35 though.. this guys averaging 60+ in FC and 70+ in Tests.

 

[akkaps]

602/5dec for Lanka, with 3 centuries.
NZ all out for 88, and have been asked to follow on

 

[Around the Wicket]

Not many sides win Tests away atm lol

 

[PhatBoy]

Not many sides win Tests away atm lol

SL on a hot streak with 1 of their last 1 haha

 

[sabso]

Why tf are we handing a test debut to the foreigner Brydon C Bum

Stone and Potts are fit, they can both bat a bit, Potts has a fc century and stone has a best of 90. Stone has decent pace and Potts took 9 for last month.

 

[010203]

It doesn't look like Fox Cricket will the Pakistan vs England series.