Club Focus Essendon 2020 - Caldwell, Hund, Wright, Cox, Perkins, Reid, Eyre, Brand

[Lore]

Data from footywire. To check the draft order (updated weekly) see the thread here.

 

[Yoda_]

Not sure that will make up for having no forward line and and no backline, in the short to mid term.

You’re right. We’ll only strengthen our list with the ins far outweighing the output of the outs.


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[Yoda_]

7 rates him at approximately the same value as Treloar who is on the table for 5. Particularly with Saad out of contract and publicly desperate to escape.

The immediate consensus among commentators was that Saad's value was a late first. 7 is paying overs, but the guy meets one of Carlton's specific needs so after the dick measuring contest is finished nobody is going to be too outraged if it goes down that way.

However. Any supporter would and should be absolutely filthy if the Club does not do everything possible to avoid paying overs.

Long term trade success is more about acquiring and manipulating small gains than it is about big wins. You don't just ditch 5 to 10 first round places because you can't be bothered trying to work around it.

Why can so many people, including yourself not comprehend that pick 7 will end up being a middle of first round selection.

JUH, Daniher, Crouch and Zac Williams possibly takes your pick 7 out to 11.


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[longdonkey]

Fantasia
Bonner & Future 2nd from Port (keep their picks this year for Jones bid) for Saad & 41 (additional Jones points)

Problem with this - Port also has another issue with a father/son who might come in high and again we need points next year too.

 

[eth-dog]

Why can so many people, including yourself not comprehend that pick 7 will end up being a middle of first round selection.

JUH, Daniher, Crouch and Zac Williams possibly takes your pick 7 out to 11.


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Zac Williams has no effect to it

 

[Yoda_]

Daniher out, Pick 7 in
Bris to pay $750,000 x 5 years, They would be insane! Band 2 or 3.

Saad Out + Future 3rd out, Pick 8 in, Pick 27 more like it.

Fantasia + 43 out , Pick 26 + 52 in, Third round more like it.

Pick 8 out, Picks 16 + 17 in. Would have to be Pick 6 for Bris likely Picks 18 + 19 after FA

What you think and what is likely to happen are completely different.

I suggest you listen to what is being said by reliably informed journalists as they have a better idea than you and they seem to suggest that Essendon are a BIG chance of ending up with 6, 7, 8.


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[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

7 rates him at approximately the same value as Treloar who is on the table for 5. Particularly with Saad out of contract and publicly desperate to escape.

The immediate consensus among commentators was that Saad's value was a late first. 7 is paying overs, but the guy meets one of Carlton's specific needs so after the dick measuring contest is finished nobody is going to be too outraged if it goes down that way.

However. Any supporter would and should be absolutely filthy if the Club does not do everything possible to avoid paying overs.

Long term trade success is more about acquiring and manipulating small gains than it is about big wins. You don't just ditch 5 to 10 first round places because you can't be bothered trying to work around it.

Pick 7 will become early teens after NGA bids so 7 seems right imo

 

[Laphroaig]

Pick 7 will become early teens after NGA bids so 7 seems right imo

Why can so many people, including yourself not comprehend that pick 7 will end up being a middle of first round selection.

JUH, Daniher, Crouch and Zac Williams possibly takes your pick 7 out to 11.

Not if we comprehend that the entire round experiences the same effect.

7 was a mid first rounder to begin with. 0 to 6, 7 to 12, 13 to 18. Stick three extra picks in front of it and it is still a mid first.

In an unadjusted 18 pick first round there are 11 picks after 7. In a 22 pick first round there are 11 picks after 11. Very little has changed.

 

[Yoda_]

Not if we comprehend that the entire round experiences the same effect.

7 was a mid first rounder to begin with. 0 to 6, 7 to 12, 13 to 18. Stick three extra picks in front of it and it is still a mid first.

In an unadjusted 18 pick first round there are 11 picks after 7. In a 22 pick first round there are 11 picks after 11. Very little has changed.

It will still be the 11th player taken. Accept it and move on


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[faible]

Any supporter would and should be absolutely filthy if the Club does not do everything possible to avoid paying overs.

Adrian approves of this.

 

[Laphroaig]

It will still be the 11th player taken. Accept it and move on


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No.

 

[dumdum]

Essendon should Trade Francis over to the Dogs for Dunkley

 

[faible]

prefer not to win their own football

Carlton have 2 players inside the Top-40 for Clearances per Game. Essendon have 3.

Carlton have 1 players inside the Top-40 for Contested Possessions per Game. Essendon have 3.

Nice try, but give it another go.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Essendon should Trade Francis over to the Dogs for Dunkley

If we add a 2021 first reckon Dogs might consider it

 

[Laphroaig]

Imagine having a good year and still being sh*t!


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I'm used to that.

Anyway, we nearly achieved mediocre in 2020, with a few flashes of OK.

Life is good.

 

[citizen-erased]

Problem with this - Port also has another issue with a father/son who might come in high and again we need points next year too.

Who's that?
I only had Jones on your list

 

[faible]

The great man has started out well, Daniher lodged and done in an hour.

#hardtodealwith

 

[Laphroaig]

The great man has started out well, Daniher lodged and done in an hour.

#hardtodealwith

Cunningly turned an offer of 5 and 9 in a good draft into 7 in a draft nobody has a clue about.

Master stroke right there.

 

[Lore]

Cunningly turned an offer of 5 and 9 in a good draft into 7 in a draft nobody has a clue about.

Master stroke right there.

9 and 3*

So basically, the club board gambled pick 3 on a tilt at finals (ultimately in a covid year)... if we knew then what we know now, definitely rather have pick 3. But thems the breaks.

In any case, one of the first few things to happen in the free agency period and it was agreed to pretty quickly. No drawn out trade negotiations this year, so I guess the ego is back in its box.

 

[faible]

Cunningly turned an offer of 5 and 9 in a good draft into 7 in a draft nobody has a clue about.

Master stroke right there.

You mean the 9 they never had? And the 5 they never offered?

 

[Laphroaig]

You mean the 9 they never had? And the 5 they never offered?

Keep the revisionist bullshit for the Essendon board.

 

[faible]

Keep the revisionist bullshit for the Essendon board.

What revisionist bullshit?

They never had 9, and never offered 5.

 

[rusman]

How does Caldwell get done now that dons have pick 7 rather then what most thought would have been brissys picks

 

[longdonkey]

Who's that?
I only had Jones on your list

This year there is also Taj Schofield but next year we have Jase Burgoyne - Peter's son.

 

[Steve94]

Fantasia to Port for pick 26 or 31

Saad + Port pick for 8

Leaves Essendon with 6,7,8.

Trade pick 6,7 or 8 plus future second with Geelong for 11 and 16* Note these picks are pre compo picks and other Academy picks so should push their value back further and may require later pick swaps to keep the "values" even

Geelong's pick 16 to GWS for Caldwell.

Leaves Essendon with Picks 7,8 and 11 this year with obviously next years first round pick to do the deal for Dunkley. Perhaps 8, 11 and next years first although Essendon perhaps would want a pick coming back as well for that.

Ideally I'd like Essendon to also look at trading pick 7 up to get Tilthorpe or McDonald although I doubt that any team wants to trade back unless Adelaide somehow get pick 2 compo for Crouch.

Please Note: Essendon bias probably coming through with this trade scenarios

 

[Rusty_lucas]

What revisionist bullshit?

They never had 9, and never offered 5.

they had 9 if essendon accepted it