Roast Essendon in no mans land

[Liam Boy]

It’s not our fault as supporters that Essendon get ‘ massively gassed up ‘by the media every time we get on a roll.

We are the second most massive club in the entire country ..sporting wise..just behind The Carrringbush.

We are a juggernaut. A super club.


Media editors demand from their writers that they cover the exploits of the EFC ..every week.

Because Essendon get more clicks and sell more papers.

It’s just a numbers game.

Sure, that's why it happens. I'm not saying it's your fault for being pandered to.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

It’s not our fault as supporters that Essendon get ‘ massively gassed up ‘by the media every time we get on a roll.

Yes it is.

It 100% is.


The whole doping saga denial. The stand by Hird stuff. The fact Dodoro still has a job. The fact that Sheedy is a fu***ng board member FFS.

The only reason this shit happens is because Essendon fans are delusional and incredibly easily led. It's like a cult. The media know how easy they are to suck in, and how much they like being told what they want to hear.

It's totally on the fan base

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

Oh dear, brad scott mentality has indeed set foot firmly...

You're being resultist dude.

 

[ChairmanZia]

You're being resultist dude.

Errrr result is the only thing that counts mate.

 

[ChairmanZia]

at one stage in your sad and tormented life of following Nerf, you adored Brad with every molecule of mallow in your spindling body.

First loves never fade…

Errr got us to 2 pf during tough times, can he do that at bombers? That would take some doings.

You guys don't have the list we had that Brad inherited back in 2010.

At that time, we still had an All time great in harvey and another excellent player in Wells.

in the Backline we had thompson, firrito and we added tarrant to that.

In the forward line we had petrie, thomas and eventually added Brown

Then we had ziebell cunnington swallow in their peaks plus free agents in waite, higgin, dal santo to boot.

Oh yeah, we also had Goldstein in his peak form throughout the 2010s.

If brad can keep bombers around the 8 and get to the 2nd week of the finals, then he has taken his game to a new height.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Oh dear, brad scott mentality has indeed set foot firmly...

was our mentality long before brad scott arrived rofl.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

This is sort of always the problem for Essendon, realistically they should never have been expected to finish top 4 or even top 8 with the stage the list is at, but any time they show a little bit they get massively gassed up by the media pandering to their huge supporter base, they develop unrealistic expectations, and then if a downturn comes they think they're just one coach-sacking away from finally breaking through. If they miss the finals next year with a tougher fixture which is likely, we'll know something has actually changed if they can resist putting Brad on the chopping block. I'm not that across the internal politics of Essendon's board/coteries but Sheedy and his faction still seem to have a lot of power, and they appear to have been the culprit of this pattern of behaviour in the past.

Honestly I don't even think Brad is necessarily the man to take them forward since I don't rate him after watching years of inflexible strategy and the same tired excuses during his tenure at North. But right now Essendon could probably do with a period of average-to-decent performances, then at least maybe they can get the finals win monkey off the back. He's proven he can deliver that, if little else. Sacking another coach would just keep the cycle of mediocrity turning.

I mean none of this is wrong to be fair.

But based on most people's preseason expectations, we have exceeded. Go look at the ladder predication thread, most had us bottom 4-6.

We are a young team with ALOT of holes in it.

 

[Foxx]

I mean none of this is wrong to be fair.

But based on most people's preseason expectations, we have exceeded. Go look at the ladder predication thread, most had us bottom 4-6.

We are a young team with ALOT of holes in it.

And when we fill those holes, other experienced players will be at the point where they create new holes. It's been the same for 20 years. This side is good enough like most of those sides were.
Worse opposition sides have got it done better than us. At some point we need to flick the circuit breaker.

We need to stop playing with sides that are too tall. And worse - playing a forward press with tall sides. Opposition sides are running away with the ball.

We won earlier in the season with the forward press. But that was when we had one ruckman, a shorter quicker wingman and Davey playing that defensive half forward role.

 

[hoddo22]

I mean none of this is wrong to be fair.

But based on most people's preseason expectations, we have exceeded. Go look at the ladder predication thread, most had us bottom 4-6.

We are a young team with ALOT of holes in it.

Not a young team at all. Closer to the top 6 oldest the the bottom 6.

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[southern_crusher]

We've been an absolute joke of a club for 20 years and counting.

 

[Yoda_]

Not a young team at all. Closer to the top 6 oldest the the bottom 6.

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Ok, now do the average without Goldsteins over inflation and try again

 

[ferball]

Ok, now do the average without Goldsteins over inflation and try again

Hate to break it to you but he's no longer Goldy of the infinite schlongs. Those days are long past.

 

[Red Bull]

Ok, now do the average without Goldsteins over inflation and try again

You can say the same for Pendlebury or any veteran on any list.
If you don’t want to include him … don’t recruit him !!

 

[Yoda_]

You can say the same for Pendlebury or any veteran on any list.
If you don’t want to include him … don’t recruit him !!

If you removed Goldstein as he is well over the average age of a player and then would balance into the young players on the list we grow infinitely younger because of this


I’ll give Lord Dodo a call now and get him to tell Goldy he’s done

 

[JayJ20]

Yes it is.

It 100% is.


The whole doping saga denial. The stand by Hird stuff. The fact Dodoro still has a job. The fact that Sheedy is a fu***ng board member FFS.

The only reason this shit happens is because Essendon fans are delusional and incredibly easily led. It's like a cult. The media know how easy they are to suck in, and much they like being told what they want to hear.

It's totally on the fan base

You always post such weird shit that it’s hard to take anything you say seriously. If you talk about the coterie, then yes understandable. But the fans? Please.

 

[Yoda_]

Not a young team at all. Closer to the top 6 oldest the the bottom 6.

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Fwiw, Essendon is the 7th youngest list (be average age) with the Goldstein factor skewing the 7th oldest (per games average) average as well

See here

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

You always post such weird shit that it’s hard to take anything you say seriously. If you talk about the coterie, then yes understandable. But the fans? Please.

 

[JayJ20]

Essendon will not change because the club’s standards are lower than everyone else. Never smash even the shittest injury-riddled sides. Always acceptable to scrape past them or and in turn scrape into finals as if that’s an achievement worth celebrating. Apparently every bottom side plays exceptionally well against Essendon and nothing to do with… Essendon.

On the other side, always plenty of excuses for getting smashed as a “bad day that every team has”.

Excuses are really the main cultural issue. Always blame it on the learnings or a failure in execution or the list or the young players or the weather or the umpiring or anything other than a shit culture with a loser mentality. No expectations can be placed on them because they can’t and won’t meet it. Can’t even expect them to comfortably beat the bottom sides let along winning a final against a top 8 team.

It’s not a talent issue because we have plenty of talent. It’s a cultural issue of being this underdog that will be praised for beating the spooners by 1 point and babied through another smashing/slide down the ladder/losing a final/losing games to contenders.

Until the club imposes higher standards and expectations, they will always be a comfortable 7-13 side.

 

[JayJ20]

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Your weird takes aren’t as insightful as you think it is. It’s not even worth discussing.

 

[Red Bull]

Essendon will not change because the club’s standards are lower than everyone else. Never smash even the shittest injury-riddled sides. Always acceptable to scrape past them or and in turn scrape into finals as if that’s an achievement worth celebrating. Apparently every bottom side plays exceptionally well against Essendon and nothing to do with… Essendon.

On the other side, always plenty of excuses for getting smashed as a “bad day that every team has”.

Excuses are really the main cultural issue. Always blame it on the learnings or a failure in execution or the list or the young players or the weather or the umpiring or anything other than a shit culture with a loser mentality. No expectations can be placed on them because they can’t and won’t meet it. Can’t even expect them to comfortably beat the bottom sides let along winning a final against a top 8 team.

It’s not a talent issue because we have plenty of talent. It’s a cultural issue of being this underdog that will be praised for beating the spooners by 1 point and babied through another smashing/slide down the ladder/losing a final/losing games to contenders.

Until the club imposes higher standards and expectations, they will always be a comfortable 7-13 side.

Only the truth can set the dons free …

 

[JayJ20]

Only the truth can set the dons free …

Well that’s the reality. We go through coaches because people think the next coach is going to be the guy. It’s always the next game, next year, next coach, next draft pick, next list build, next captain, next potential player etc.

No team is more worried about the future and less worried about the present than Essendon.

Until we can look at a game against a side like West Coast and have no worries of a 10 goal win and until we can beat sides like Geelong or Port and until we can play in every weather, injury state, umpiring, ground etc, we won’t be anything.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

Well that’s the reality. We go through coaches because people think the next coach is going to be the guy. It’s always the next game, next year, next coach, next draft pick, next list build, next captain, next potential player etc.

No team is more worried about the future and less worried about the present than Essendon.

Until we can look at a game against a side like West Coast and have no worries of a 10 goal win and until we can beat sides like Geelong or Port and until we can play in every weather, injury state, umpiring, ground etc, we won’t be anything.

Until the fans stop tolerating the club's shit, it will keep happening.

Dodoro should not be allowed near the joint.

The fans need to demand this.


A case in point is Essendon fans piping up in this thread during the year after a win spruiking that Dodoor isn't that bad after all. They just get sucked in by the cult.

The fans need to demand he goes. And that Sheedy goes. And that the coteries piss and let actual football people do their jobs.

 

[Red Bull]

Well that’s the reality. We go through coaches because people think the next coach is going to be the guy. It’s always the next game, next year, next coach, next draft pick, next list build, next captain, next potential player etc.

No team is more worried about the future and less worried about the present than Essendon.

Until we can look at a game against a side like West Coast and have no worries of a 10 goal win and until we can beat sides like Geelong or Port and until we can play in every weather, injury state, umpiring, ground etc, we won’t be anything.

The club have been living a lie for too long now.
Tell the truth.
Take what comes.
Start again with a clean slate.
The members and supporters should be the ones demanding it to in turn finally set the club free …

 

[bzparkes]

Yes it is.

It 100% is.


The whole doping saga denial. The stand by Hird stuff. The fact Dodoro still has a job. The fact that Sheedy is a fu***ng board member FFS.

The only reason this shit happens is because Essendon fans are delusional and incredibly easily led. It's like a cult. The media know how easy they are to suck in, and much they like being told what they want to hear.

It's totally on the fan base

 

[hoddo22]

Fwiw, Essendon is the 7th youngest list (be average age) with the Goldstein factor skewing the 7th oldest (per games average) average as well

See here

So he's not on the list and has played in all but two games. Very selective data.

Facts are facts buddy.

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