He wouldnt have been, but youd want to aim a bit higher than that
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never test the depth of water with both feet.
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who?
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IIRC Horner wanted to but Helmut stopped it since Checo's sponsors came to the party. Or it might have been the other way around. From all reports even Daniel was working under the assumption that he would be in the Red Bull.
Ford, Toyota and GM are all building ICE vehicles into the foreseeable future, as are Mercedes.
Sustainable fuels are becoming more readily available by the year and the tech is improving at a faster rate than EV.
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Which makes the ‘Happy Daniel’ scenes at Spa a bit confusing. But maybe Helmut wasn’t happy with DR coming back for whatever reason. We could speculate forever.
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Yeah, I don't think data came into it
Of course it did.
There is no "Helmut wanted Daniel out" conspiracy. I love Danny Ric as much as anyone, but he was done.
If he was getting beaten by a very good driver you might be able to make that case, but being by Yuki means he's not worthy of a place in what's meant to be a "junior" team.
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Daniel will probably let the world know what went on at some stage im sure.
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The internal ructions meant that was never going to happen. Too many factions pulling in different directions.
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To be fair Lawson is having his backside handed to him by yuki and he might get an RBR gig so that point is a tad hypocritical.
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I doubt it-i think he's just happy with his off track interests.
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He isn't.... but that's ok.
Your view that Daniel has somehow been screwed out of a drive is embarrassing
Lawson, a veteran of 10 GPs is pretty much doing what Daniel, a bloke who's been in F1 for over a decade was doing.
Just stop.
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I don't think anyone is saying Daniel was screwed out of a drive as such, more that it would have been worth a shot to give him a go in Checo's seat seeings as Checo wasn't doing anything with it. Of course we would've like to have seen that and it's a pity it didn't happen when it easily could have.
TBH neither of them should be there.
We all know Checo should've been chucked out ages ago, possibly even before Dan. But 2 wrongs don't make a right.
Checo is there because he brings the biggest backer in F1 with him, but that shouldn't be enough to save him now.
You stated that manufacturers had stopped producing EV’s.
You were asked to provide names of those manufacturers.
You haven’t answered the question.
Yep my mistake, they've significantly scaled back operations and targets rather than stopping.
It'll be decades before everyone is driving an EV, they aren't as "sustainable" as they would like everyone to believe.
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I'm not a rose tinted DR fan, love the bloke and it was sad to see his decline. He didn't deserve a mid year dumping but end of the season if he joined Kmag, Bottas, Zhou on the sidelines then he wouldn't have been out of place.
But, Christian Horner himself said Marko wanted Daniel out after Spain.
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Ricciardo definitely looked like he had some of his mojo back after the McLaren debacle, his highs showed that it was still there, Miami sprint and Canada. But the summer break really killed that off.
By all accounts he went in believing he was coming back a Red Bull driver but that all changed and from there it was the end.
A little bit, but it was pretty fleeting.
A guy of his talent doesn't lose it as such, but it becomes far less consistent. His biggest mistake was leaving Red Bull in the first place, even though I can see the reasons why he did.
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It was a stupid move.
There's an argument his 2020 season at Renault was his best in F1 (after 2014)
Given what he had at his disposal yeah, good for his bank balance too.
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Alpine doing alpine things
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It's just lip service. He's clearly not doing much right if he's trying to get them to the top.
They almost halved their points total from 2023.
