F1 F1 2024 thread

[Cromulant]

It was a stupid move.

There's an argument his 2020 season at Renault was his best in F1 (after 2014)

Probably Perez best season too for the same reasons

 

[Black_White]

Yep my mistake, they've significantly scaled back operations and targets rather than stopping.

It'll be decades before everyone is driving an EV, they aren't as "sustainable" as they would like everyone to believe.

No doubt.
I’m not a big EV fan but I do know that they will get better and better as the years go on.
And those who don’t understand that the ICE vehicle will eventually be replaced by EV’s, or similar, I liken to those who said they’d never, ever, ever trade in their horse.

 

[Jatz]

No doubt.
I’m not a big EV fan but I do know that they will get better and better as the years go on.
And those who don’t understand that the ICE vehicle will eventually be replaced by EV’s, or similar, I liken to those who said they’d never, ever, ever trade in their horse.

In Australia the future will be hydrogen rather than electric.

Europe it'll be electric.

 

[Black_White]

In Australia the future will be hydrogen rather than electric.

Europe it'll be electric.

At the moment hydrogen appears to be going nowhere.
And if it doesn’t take off in other countries then it won’t here. Economies of scale would restrict the big automakers from making a bespoke model line.
What would be a deal breaker for Australian cars would be the body being made of something that would keep the vehicle charged while operating. This would negate the range issue that we have in this country.
I work in a large country town and in the last 18 months we have had 3 new petrol stations open. And another one being built. And a closed one being renovated on the drive home.
Someone knows what the future holds.

 

[Jatz]

At the moment hydrogen appears to be going nowhere.
And if it doesn’t take off in other countries then it won’t here. Economies of scale would restrict the big automakers from making a bespoke model line.
What would be a deal breaker for Australian cars would be the body being made of something that would keep the vehicle charged while operating. This would negate the range issue that we have in this country.
I work in a large country town and in the last 18 months we have had 3 new petrol stations open. And another one being built. And a closed one being renovated on the drive home.
Someone knows what the future holds.

I worked for one of the big oil companies, I can tell you they were throwing everything behind hydrogen, rather than electric (part of the reason for is obvious).

The ICE is definitely on the way out. I'm not convinced it'll be electric that overtakes it in this country though.

 

[Black_White]

I worked for one of the big oil companies, I can tell you they were throwing everything behind hydrogen, rather than electric (part of the reason for is obvious).

The ICE is definitely on the way out. I'm not convinced it'll be electric that overtakes it in this country though.

Seeing very little in the marketplace for all the money they are throwing at hydrogen.

 

[Jatz]

Seeing very little in the marketplace for all the money they are throwing at hydrogen.

You won't for years yet. The technology required to keep it safe and viable is not going to be an overnight fix.

 

[skam85]

Probably Perez best season too for the same reasons

Oh yeah he was fantastic in 2020. Definitely deserved the red bull drive for 21 based off that alone.

Checo is a quality driver in a midfield car. Just the combo of a front running team and Max as a teammate isn't for him.

 

[Cromulant]

SA Govt have thrown their weight behind it in this country at least, and everything else Mali has done have turned to gold so far.

 

[happy_eagle]

F1 2024 Logic Puzzle

Can you name the F1 2024 drivers in this puzzle?

www.sporcle.com

 

[Not Important]

toto gets a lot of bad press. all class this.

Wolff leaves Hamilton emotional Mercedes goodbye voice message

Toto Wolff has said some poignant words to Lewis Hamilton following the seven-time F1 champion's farewell from Mercedes

racingnews365.com

 

[Barrybran]

toto gets a lot of bad press. all class this.

Wolff leaves Hamilton emotional Mercedes goodbye voice message

Toto Wolff has said some poignant words to Lewis Hamilton following the seven-time F1 champion's farewell from Mercedes

racingnews365.com

Meanwhile, from Bono...

 

[Cromulant]

Toto knows that without Lewis, his career in F1 would've been a much shorter one.

I'm not a huge fan of Hamilton, but the guy deserves all the plaudits he gets from here until he calls time on his career.

 

[Not Important]

Meanwhile, from Bono...

what a considered response.

 

[Not Important]

Toto knows that without Lewis, his career in F1 would've been a much shorter one.

I'm not a huge fan of Hamilton, but the guy deserves all the plaudits he gets from here until he calls time on his career.

maybe, maybe not. neither you nor i know that. benz provided him with the best power unit.

and, c'mon, some credit for a genuine message. not everything in life is self-serving. at least for many of us.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

He isn't.... but that's ok.

Your view that Daniel has somehow been screwed out of a drive is embarrassing

Lawson, a veteran of 10 GPs is pretty much doing what Daniel, a bloke who's been in F1 for over a decade was doing.

Just stop.

The only thing that's embarrassing is that you seem to think Lawson isn't being beaten by yuki.

 

[Cromulant]

The only thing that's embarrassing is that you seem to think Lawson isn't being beaten by yuki.

First time out Liam brained him.

A combination of bad luck and a couple of silly errors in the last couple of races stopped that momentum.

I'm not a huge wrap for Lawson, but only an incredibly biased Aussie would suggest he's not a better option than Dan. He's as good as Dan is now, let alone moving forward.

 

[Cromulant]

maybe, maybe not. neither you nor i know that. benz provided him with the best power unit.

and, c'mon, some credit for a genuine message. not everything in life is self-serving. at least for many of us.

They did for sure, and absolutely he gets some credit for the message.

First time he's said something positive in 3 years

 

[Pure_Ownage]

First time out Liam brained him.

A combination of bad luck and a couple of silly errors in the last couple of races stopped that momentum.

I'm not a huge wrap for Lawson, but only an incredibly biased Aussie would suggest he's not a better option than Dan. He's as good as Dan is now, let alone moving forward.

The errors are because Lawson does not have consistency or the quality.

Most people would be a better option than Dan due to age and a range of factors. My point was Lawson has done nothing to suggest he's equal to or better than yuki as an option which he is not.

 

[Cromulant]

The errors are because Lawson does not have consistency or the quality.

Most people would be a better option than Dan due to age and a range of factors. My point was Lawson has done nothing to suggest he's equal to or better than yuki as an option which he is not.

Pure speed wise he's not, but Yuki won't handle being teammate to Max

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Pure speed wise he's not, but Yuki won't handle being teammate to Max

I think that's a big assumption until he gets the opportunity. People mature and his results merit it unless they get a better candidate like sainz.

Besides the real problem is jos not Max or yuki anyway.

 

[DamoESP]

 

[happy_eagle]

Toto knows that without Lewis, his career in F1 would've been a much shorter one.

I'm not a huge fan of Hamilton, but the guy deserves all the plaudits he gets from here until he calls time on his career.

Is interesting to think back to 2012 and wonder if Hamilton didn't switch from McLaren to Mercedes (a risky move at the time) who Mercedes would have targeted as the Schumacher replacement.

Assuming they wanted a big name, they would have likely chased Vettel, Alonso or Button.

Vettel in 2012 had just won two world titles back to back, and was on his way to his third. I doubt he would have left Red Bull at that time (but in hindsight, he probably should have sacrificed 2013 for what would have come in 2014-2020).

Alonso was into his third season at Ferrari and after narrowly missing the title in 2010, he would go on to narrowly miss it in 2012. I'm not sure he would have moved from Ferrari then either given how close he was to a title.

Button seems like one they could have targeted, but in theory they could have had him in 2010 when they expanded from Brawn GP, and opted for Rosberg instead. So not sure if Button would have been on their radar.

The alternative of course is that they paired Nico Rosberg with a young driver, and who knows we might be sitting here talking about Nico Rosberg, the 6 or 7 time world champion.

Another option could have been to sway Mark Webber to come across for a couple of years, given how public the issues were with him and Red Bull at the time.

 

[hotchilli]

toto gets a lot of bad press. all class this.

Wolff leaves Hamilton emotional Mercedes goodbye voice message

Toto Wolff has said some poignant words to Lewis Hamilton following the seven-time F1 champion's farewell from Mercedes

racingnews365.com

He did Dax Shepard’s podcast which was a very good chat.

 

[Jatz]

Is interesting to think back to 2012 and wonder if Hamilton didn't switch from McLaren to Mercedes (a risky move at the time) who Mercedes would have targeted as the Schumacher replacement.

Assuming they wanted a big name, they would have likely chased Vettel, Alonso or Button.

Vettel in 2012 had just won two world titles back to back, and was on his way to his third. I doubt he would have left Red Bull at that time (but in hindsight, he probably should have sacrificed 2013 for what would have come in 2014-2020).

Alonso was into his third season at Ferrari and after narrowly missing the title in 2010, he would go on to narrowly miss it in 2012. I'm not sure he would have moved from Ferrari then either given how close he was to a title.

Button seems like one they could have targeted, but in theory they could have had him in 2010 when they expanded from Brawn GP, and opted for Rosberg instead. So not sure if Button would have been on their radar.

The alternative of course is that they paired Nico Rosberg with a young driver, and who knows we might be sitting here talking about Nico Rosberg, the 6 or 7 time world champion.

Another option could have been to sway Mark Webber to come across for a couple of years, given how public the issues were with him and Red Bull at the time.

Not sure Nico had the desire for that. The one and done thing always intrigued me. I don't blame him but I do wonder if he realised it's a dangerous sport and he'd reached it's pinnacle.

Could've seen him as a 2 or 3 time world champion but wouldn't have thought there'd be more than that.