F1 F1 2024 thread

[No Quarter]

Is it fair that just repairing a damaged car comes under the spending cap?

I feel sorry for Williams, I get it don't crash but for it to rob them of potential upgrades to stay competitive, seems really harsh

 

[Tandy]

It's kind of a shame that the 'undercut' is the main way to move up positions. Whole strategies are built around it rather than overtaking on the track. (Even though technically undercutting and overtaking are the same thing?) The commentary never shuts up about it. Its also a shame that someones race is with a car that's mid pack and just let everyone through. Knowing they have no chance whatsoever of a podium

 

[Not Important]

benz?

 

[Not Important]

Shame about the mistake at the end by Piastri but he was a bit unlucky in the race.

The first stop put him behind a few more back markers.
Caught Alonso fairly quickly but couldn't pass, the Mclaren DRS is not that potent.
Seem to Lose around 3 seconds when Sarjeant left the track late in the race.

His relatively poor qualifying behind Alonso proved decisive.

yeah! thought he was doing a good job keeping george in a faster car at bay until then.

 

[Vader]

yeah! thought he was doing a good job keeping george in a faster car at bay until then.

Honestly, it was Alonso keeping Russell at bay, by deliberately backing off just before the DRS detection point, ensuring that Piastri had DRS on the straights. Piastri having DRS made it much harder for Russell to overtake.

Why did Alonso do this? Because he knew that he'd be next, if Russell managed to get past Piastri, and he wanted to protect his own position. Alonso, quite rightly, wasn't worried about Piastri overtaking him with DRS, given that McLaren's DRS is about as useful as a fly screen door on a submarine. The Mercedes' DRS on the other hand, was something he was very concerned about.

 

[dazbroncos]

Honestly, it was Alonso keeping Russell at bay, by deliberately backing off just before the DRS detection point, ensuring that Piastri had DRS on the straights. Piastri having DRS made it much harder for Russell to overtake.

Why did Alonso do this? Because he knew that he'd be next, if Russell managed to get past Piastri, and he wanted to protect his own position. Alonso, quite rightly, wasn't worried about Piastri overtaking him with DRS, given that McLaren's DRS is about as useful as a fly screen door on a submarine. The Mercedes' DRS on the other hand, was something he was very concerned about.

exactly old head 'Nando lifted off just enough each time into the DRS detection zone to keep OP just inside 1sec...

masterful tactical driving from the resident old guy.

 

[skam85]

Honestly, it was Alonso keeping Russell at bay, by deliberately backing off just before the DRS detection point, ensuring that Piastri had DRS on the straights. Piastri having DRS made it much harder for Russell to overtake.

Why did Alonso do this? Because he knew that he'd be next, if Russell managed to get past Piastri, and he wanted to protect his own position. Alonso, quite rightly, wasn't worried about Piastri overtaking him with DRS, given that McLaren's DRS is about as useful as a fly screen door on a submarine. The Mercedes' DRS on the other hand, was something he was very concerned about.

Alonso was just protecting himself from crash merchant Russell spinning off at the Esses and being blamed for it.

 

[Vader]

Alonso was just protecting himself from crash merchant Russell spinning off at the Esses and being blamed for it.

Harsh... but possibly fair.

 

[gaskin]

benz?

It comes down to Max. If Max goes to Merc then Carlos will probably end up at Red Bull but if Max stays which will probably happen then Carlos probably goes to Mercedes. I can definitely see him at one of those two teams next season.

 

[Jatz]

Would love to see Max in the Merc but can't see it actually happening.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Why would he got to Merc? They won 2014-2020 based on a leg up in the engine rules. Change the aero and they are useless.

 

[skam85]

Why would he got to Merc? They won 2014-2020 based on a leg up in the engine rules. Change the aero and they are useless.

The engine rules are changing in 2026 though. Maybe Merc nail it again. At least Sir Insufferable won't be there anymore. Hopefully Crashy McSomeoneelse'sfault Russell is gone by then too and they're actually likeable.

I don't see Max going though. Not unless the Horner/Marko/Jos stuff goes to another level.

 

[Jatz]

Why would he got to Merc? They won 2014-2020 based on a leg up in the engine rules. Change the aero and they are useless.

It would only be if Horner wins that power struggle they've got going over there. I'd be staggered if they went Horner over Max if push came to shove though.

 

[Vader]

The engine rules are changing in 2026 though. Maybe Merc nail it again. At least Sir Insufferable won't be there anymore. Hopefully Crashy McSomeoneelse'sfault Russell is gone by then too and they're actually likeable.

I don't see Max going though. Not unless the Horner/Marko/Jos stuff goes to another level.

I don't think Mercedes will ever be likeable, while Toto remains at the helm.

 

[skam85]

I don't think Mercedes will ever be likeable, while Toto remains at the helm.

I'm not sure if this is controversial but I actually like Toto

 

[Vader]

I don't think Mercedes will ever be likeable, while Toto remains at the helm.

Each to their own, I guess.

 

[Jatz]

I'm not sure if this is controversial but I actually like Toto

I'm a big fan of Toto.

I mean we've just seen the shit Horner gets up to in his spare time - is Toto less likeable than Horner?

 

[Vader]

I'm a big fan of Toto.

I mean we've just seen the s**t Horner gets up to in his spare time - is Toto less likeable than Horner?

I don't like the teutonic arrogance. But maybe that's just me.

 

[Not Important]

Honestly, it was Alonso keeping Russell at bay, by deliberately backing off just before the DRS detection point, ensuring that Piastri had DRS on the straights. Piastri having DRS made it much harder for Russell to overtake.

Why did Alonso do this? Because he knew that he'd be next, if Russell managed to get past Piastri, and he wanted to protect his own position. Alonso, quite rightly, wasn't worried about Piastri overtaking him with DRS, given that McLaren's DRS is about as useful as a fly screen door on a submarine. The Mercedes' DRS on the other hand, was something he was very concerned about.

no question alonso played cat and mouse. however, oscar twice fended off russell, who was in the faster car, when he attempted takeovers. had it not been for his mistake near the finish, i reckon oscar would have finished in front of russell.

 

[Bestbird]

Love this F1 Comedy

 

[Barrybran]

Alonso re-signs with Aston Martin on a multi-year deal

 

[Vader]

Alonso has re-signed with Aston Martin, with a multi-year deal:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...ds-mercedes-talk-extends-aston-martin-deal-f1

That's one less contender for Hamilton's seat at Mercedes, and (potentially) Checo's seat at Red Bull.

Given that he's currently 42, he'll be at least 44 by the time his contract expires. He will be the first driver to drive in more than 400 Grands Prix. I'm wondering whether he may also become the oldest driver to ever compete in F1?

 

[smish]

Alonso re-signs with Aston Martin on a multi-year deal

GigaChad

 

[Vader]

In answer to my own question... Alonso won't even make the top-10 oldest F1 drivers. The record is held by Louis Chiron, who was aged 55 years 292 days, when he drove the 1958 Monaco GP. 9 of the top-10 oldest drivers drove their last race in the 1950s, with the other (Kurt Kuhnke) finishing in 1963.

Alonso would need to continue for another decade, just to make the top-10!

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Formula_One_driver_records

 

[skam85]

Only took them 5hrs to convince him!