Coach Fages and the coaching group

[Cubs2Lions]

Leadership Group in shambles tonight, who will save us

 

[Viceregal]

The only thing Cotchin brings is tips on cheap shot techniques.


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Admittedly that is not an area odf strength for us ... although I suspect some deluded biased fans of other clubs might not agree!

 

[martinson]

Admittedly that is not an area odf strength for us ... although I suspect some deluded biased fans of other clubs might not agree!

The Tigers won flags in the 60's and 70's with snipers and cheap shots all over the ground. It used to be a violent game with survival of the fittest.

Cotch is out of the same playbook adapting his modus operandi to fit the times.

I would've loved him if he was playing for us.

Whatever else he has a very smart footy brain that can only benefit our team.

 

[Bojangles17]

The only thing Cotchin brings is tips on cheap shot techniques.


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Be struggling to teach zorko anything he hasn’t mastered already

 

[lionshine]

Be struggling to teach zorko anything he hasn’t mastered already

Point on the doll where Zorko hurt you buddy

 

[Bojangles17]

Point on the doll where Zorko hurt you buddy

Awwwww

 

[martinson]

Be struggling to teach zorko anything he hasn’t mastered already

Not wishing to get into any argument about it bit Zorks is/was a little guy and just about the only decent player in a crap team who got battered from pillar to post most weeks and taught himself to stand up to it.

Unfortunately every time he had a crack at someone it was out of frustration and retaliation for all to see.

He was never schooled or had role models in the art sneaky niggling/suck your opponent in and lob one if you can tactics of with Cotch was a master.

No knock on Cotch for that. Just sayin'. Zorks was the smallest guy on the ground and about the only one who refused to be bullied.

 

[rye]

ive always said dayne zorko luke hodge trent cotchin

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Trent Cotchin

Age

34

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.4

5star

K

13.8

5star

HB

9.5

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.9

5star

CL

5.2

5star

D

19.0

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

9.5

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

4.3

5star

CL

3.5

4star

D

16.6

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

8.6

5star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.0

3star

would never engage in on-field thuggery

 

[martinson]

Funny that we were actually praising Cotch.

Fwiiw Zorks will have plenty of offers on retirement . Led us out of the wilderness when we were total crap. Resilience and persistence.

 

[briztoon]

 

[moncon]

What was he, 22 years old when he took over as captain at the shambles that was Richmond back then? Reckon he might have some experience dealing with pressure and expectations.

 

[Cubs2Lions]

What was he, 22 years old when he took over as captain at the shambles that was Richmond back then? Reckon he might have some experience dealing with pressure and expectations.

Should note though for everyone, Cotchin’s appointment at our club is only on a part-time basis and he is DEFINITELY NOT moving over here to Brisbane to live (as of yet):

 

[Dalions]

Should note though for everyone, Cotchin’s appointment at our club is only on a part-time basis and he is DEFINITELY NOT moving over here to Brisbane to live (as of yet):

Atleast we have got him for game days in Melbourne.

 

[M Malice]

Atleast we have got him for game days in Melbourne.

What happens if the Storm and Lions are playing on the same afternoon in Melbourne... young Trent better choose us Lions.

 

[Dalions]

What happens if the Storm and Lions are playing on the same afternoon in Melbourne... young Trent better choose us Lions.

It’s just a hop skip and jump from the MCG

 

[Cubs2Lions]

What happens if the Storm and Lions are playing on the same afternoon in Melbourne... young Trent better choose us Lions.

Melbourne Storm can just have his younger brother instead on that day, Cotch Trentin

 

[SpecialBruce]

At what point do we finally address the lack of ruthlessness to put away teams. We get leads and then just wade the game out which allows teams to get back into it.

In the last five years the only time we have put a team away and played four quarters was Kangaroos a couple of years back.

We are too nice. But that’s what you get when you have a coach that isn’t ruthless. It means players aren’t ruthless.

Look at all premiership coaches. They played ruthless or coached ruthless. It’s no secret you need grunt to coach an AFL premiership - something we lack.

The media need to look into this and lay pressure on the club.

Fagan just doesn’t have a ruthless bone in his body. When he played, after he tackled somebody he probably helped them up, apologised for tackling them and asked if they were ok.

Guarantee you this won’t be the only game we let teams back into. There is no killer instinct in this team.

 

[martinson]

At what point do we finally address the lack of ruthlessness to put away teams. We get leads and then just wade the game out which allows teams to get back into it.

In the last five years the only time we have put a team away and played four quarters was Kangaroos a couple of years back.

We are too nice. But that’s what you get when you have a coach that isn’t ruthless. It means players aren’t ruthless.

Look at all premiership coaches. They played ruthless or coached ruthless. It’s no secret you need grunt to coach an AFL premiership - something we lack.

The media need to look into this and lay pressure on the club.

Fagan just doesn’t have a ruthless bone in his body. When he played, after he tackled somebody he probably helped them up, apologised for tackling them and asked if they were ok.

Guarantee you this won’t be the only game we let teams back into. There is no killer instinct in this team.

I think it's more tactics.

Our tactics are to protect what we have rather than to ever roll the dice. Even when it's close.

I think we could be ruthless enough if that was the mindset.

 

[Squizz89]

Feel like we’ve been over this ad nauseam and probably will until (if) Fages ever wins a flag with this group. Whether that’s right or not is probably up for debate.

I personally think if we don’t at least make it back to the GF this year, both the club and Fages might sit down together and see what’s best moving forward for all parties.

It wouldn’t surprise if we see a succession plan in place even at some stage.

 

[irel]

At what point do we finally address the lack of ruthlessness to put away teams. We get leads and then just wade the game out which allows teams to get back into it.

In the last five years the only time we have put a team away and played four quarters was Kangaroos a couple of years back.

We are too nice. But that’s what you get when you have a coach that isn’t ruthless. It means players aren’t ruthless.

Look at all premiership coaches. They played ruthless or coached ruthless. It’s no secret you need grunt to coach an AFL premiership - something we lack.

The media need to look into this and lay pressure on the club.

Fagan just doesn’t have a ruthless bone in his body. When he played, after he tackled somebody he probably helped them up, apologised for tackling them and asked if they were ok.

Guarantee you this won’t be the only game we let teams back into. There is no killer instinct in this team.

Oh really?
McRae is a clone of Fagan.

 

[briztoon]

Feel like we’ve been over this ad nauseam and probably will until (if) Fages ever wins a flag with this group. Whether that’s right or not is probably up for debate.

I personally think if we don’t at least make it back to the GF this year, both the club and Fages might sit down together and see what’s best moving forward for all parties.

It wouldn’t surprise if we see a succession plan in place even at some stage.

Yeah, but it's someone new making the point. I like it.

 

[briztoon]

Oh really?
McRae is a clone of Fagan.

He's not. He's shown that he has a ruthless side. He's shown that he doesn't try and shut a game down.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Was Collingwood ruthless last year?

 

[HereIGoAgain]

If we want a harder edge bring Mark Williams back in some capacity. He seems to have been the brains behind the Demons success.

Port were in a similar position to what we are now, going into 2004.

 

[martinson]

If we want a harder edge bring Mark Williams back in some capacity. He seems to have been the brains behind the Demons success.

Port were in a similar position to what we are now, going into 2004.

I think our guys are hard enough if they were given the green light.

We need to learn from Macrae.

No one would've said they had a better list than us. But the belief they have has taken many of them from bog average players to good players.

It's not that hard to work out. It's been patently evident for 2 years.