I got half way through reading the notes of 2007 and 2008 and was already feeling trauma and not even a Demons fan.And well, then there’s this:
Should be a lifeline link on that blog for Dees fans.
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Should be a lifeline link on that blog for Dees fans.
Can you outline the formula you used to arrive at these conclusions ??
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I posted Collingwood previously on the score of their near misses in GF's over the last 60 years, but that's the big one for misery. I can't imagine me supporting the new entity (however that may look) with the same level of passion. I hope the success of the Brisbane Lions has bought the old Fitzroy supporters some joy.
OP has a big dose of recency bias. Tigers with a score of 1???
Up until a few years ago there was hardly a more suffering supporter base over the last 30 years.
Up until a few years ago there was hardly a more suffering supporter base over the last 30 years.
Just had a read through, brutal stuff. It did lead me to find this gem STILL up on the Demons official YouTube channel after all these years:
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The roast carvery?
3 out of 4 flags well and truly wipes away 30 years of built up misery. No Richmond supporter is grumbling about how bad the 2000s were.
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Recency bias is deliberate.
I'm measuring misery of living current fans, not the dead.
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Very simple:
Years since last flag.
Or
Years since last GF appearance x 3.
Whichever number is lower.
- Mar 2, 2015
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He's got the Bulldogs score at 5 and Hawthorn at 6
Apparently the Bulldogs' 2016 flag trumps Hawthorn's 2015, 2014, 2013 and 2008 flags (or the 9 before that)
I think that pretty much sums up all you need to know about the accuracy of the "fan misery index"
So 2016 + 5 = 2021 and 2015 +6 = 2021, groundbreaking logic, i need some breakfast and i need it now to fuel my outrage.
It's all relative. The joy that the 2016 flag brought Bulldogs supporters is still carrying them through. Based on the whinging by a lot of Hawks fans here, the 3 peat (amazing an achievement as it was), is well in the rearview mirror. A symptom of having an ultra successful 30 years, I guess.
On another note, Jake Stringer looks to have pinged a lower leg/calf just to add a few points to the Essendon index.
Surely it must be the Eagles. Haven't won every premiership, haven't got every free kick and haven't played every game at home.
Have to agree with this. Even though 2019 and 2020 were great flags for us nothing beats the utter joy that came from our 2017 flag and ending a 37 year drought. That feeling of elation and experiencing something you thought you might never experience is something very very special. I hope Melbourne, saints and freo fans get to experience it one day like us and dogs fans have recently.
- Mar 2, 2015
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- Hawthorn
That shows you the amount of time I spent evaluating the "fan misery index" i.e. less than 2 seconds.
You do seem overly upset about my criticism of the OP's methods.
Make sure you get some fibre into you. It helps to keep you regular.
- Oct 19, 2020
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I would have Geelong higher on the list as they continually let their supporters down in the finals.
I know a few Geelong supporters who were devastated last year and have lost all hope of winning another GF this decade.
I know a few Geelong supporters who were devastated last year and have lost all hope of winning another GF this decade.
- Mar 2, 2015
- 19,387
- 35,125
- AFL Club
- Hawthorn
The OP's fundamental flaw is to generalise about club fanbases as though they all think alike. (Not just the OP, but everyone does this.)
Obviously "fan misery" is entirely dependent on how much of a misery guts each person is in their daily life irrespective of the footy.
I've had to move seats to get away from the constant negativity and paranoid rantings of certain Hawthorn fans... and this was around 2014/2015 when we were belting opponents by 100 points. Every club has their percentage of "fans" who are like this.
So then it's basically just a list of who won the most recent flags? That's kinda pointless. We already know that.
As Back One Out observed, Doggies fans are apparently less miserable then Hawk fans according to that index, because they won a flag more recently? Turn it up. They'd be the least miserable fans in AFL from young to old.
Ignoring 30 years of success or failure is flawed IMO. It's like thinking you've more sexual satisfaction than Hugh Hefner had because you got laid last night.
Do you think people die at 35 or something?
I'll pay that. That is actually funny.
Nope, i get that it's pointless dribble i just don't feel the need to post on it, unlike you.
I use Meta Mucil which helped me back two out before breakfast, regularity is life.
How does seeing so many Hawthorn champions who should be one club players handed out like lollies make you feel ?
- Sep 19, 2012
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- Geelong
- Other Teams
- Norwood, Aston Villa
Just ask any Cats or Pies fan.
If St Kilda win the flag this year, I guarantee you won't find a happier bunch of people than Saints fans. Their current level of misery correlates to extreme levels of happiness once success is achieved. That's why most Hawks fans are whingers despite the flags they've seen.
- Sep 19, 2012
- 4,521
- 5,597
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- Geelong
- Other Teams
- Norwood, Aston Villa
Love the Redbacks getting a mention. District cricket in Adelaide is a self-centered mess and the Shield side regularly turns out blokes who just aren't ready for the level.
