News Farewell, and thank you for your service thread

[Kane McGoodwin]

Jeez you'd think Parfitt would be a better fit than Murphy

We already have better options than Murphy.

The issue is we need a better option as coach to see this.

 

[adelaidecrows]

We already have better options than Murphy.

The issue is we need a better option as coach to see this.

I cry for the good old days where our worst and most hated player could still football.

 

[GreyCrow]

It's almost as if not being certain yet how many players are coming to your club might have an impact on which players you want to delist!

Seriously, I don't get the obsession with wanting the club to delist players ASAP. It's not a race. It's not like trade week where doing one early gives you time to focus on another. The club will already know which players it is happy to cut. They just needs to work out how many players they are bringing in.

There is plenty to be upset with the club about without worrying about us not delisting players early enough.

The issue I have and mentioned earlier is we openly stated we would be aggressive in recruiting

If we were as aggressive as we said we should know who was locked in.

If we haven't locked anyone in then it's a fail and Reid needs to be delisted

 

[cmndstab]

The issue I have and mentioned earlier is we openly stated we would be aggressive in recruiting

If we were as aggressive as we said we should know who was locked in.

If we haven't locked anyone in then it's a fail and Reid needs to be delisted

The trade period doesn't start for another fortnight. I don't think it's reasonable for us to have a bunch of players committing to the club just yet.

I agree, if we get to the end of the trade period and all we have to show are 1-2 players who nominated us in advance, then we will have failed to live up to our word.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

I cry for the good old days where our worst and most hated player could still football.

James Thiessen runs rings around half our list

 

[adelaidecrows]

The trade period doesn't start for another fortnight. I don't think it's reasonable for us to have a bunch of players committing to the club just yet.

I agree, if we get to the end of the trade period and all we have to show are 1-2 players who nominated us in advance, then we will have failed to live up to our word.

At the end of the day we can be ultra aggressive all we like, if we cant attract players and quality off field staff, that is going to speak volumes about how the club is viewed.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Personally I'm not that impatient about delistings but an announcement of Ned McHenry

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's delisting would be very soothing and a boon for my mental health.

 

[FR0GGY]

Personally I'm not that impatient about delistings but an announcement of Ned McHenry's delisting would be very soothing and a boon for my mental health.

It’s like the club feel people won’t sign up after delistings.

 

[adelaidecrows]

It’s like the club feel people won’t sign up after delistings.

Its like every year they wait for offers for our scraps during trade week and every year nothing.

 

[WetCrow1991]

Why would you want to come and be coached by Homer Simpson.

 

[George Kramer]

We won’t announce delistings because if we don’t get the new players we want, they’ll keep some. Given we’ve hidden behind experience, there’s no way they’ll cut experience and replace them with just kids, no matter how strong the draft is or how poor those experienced players are.

This offseason is all about getting some more wins to take the pressure off and premiership success is not the aim.

 

[1970crow]

Lack of turnover has been a problem for us, I agree. But the notion that we "can't pick a single player" that we're moving on from is fanciful. We're obviously going to delist a number of players. The timing of our announcement has no bearing on how many get delisted, other than to the extent that more information about who is coming here may come to light.

If you want to have a discussion about how we seem determined to delist only a few players this year, that's a separate topic where we're probably on the same page.



The first two paragraphs seem a bit silly to me. Holding off as long as possible for what? There is no new information to come in about the proverbial Ben Davis between now and next week.

I can certainly see us wanting to hold off until after the B&F just from a decency standpoint, but honestly, I think it's a simpler equation than that. I think we've already worked out how many new players we intend to bring into the club next year, based on our draft hand and trade targets. The only open question is, can we get anyone to commit to the club in advance? If so, that may shift the equation slightly - for example, if Cumming chooses us, it doesn't impact our draft hand at all, so perhaps we will bring in one additional player to the club.

Again, there is no opportunity cost for delaying announcing our delistings. There's no harm associated with it. I think we have a collection of players already identified that we are prepared to delist. Now we're just working out how many of them will go.

The reason we haven’t delisted anyone yet is that depending on other trade/FA movements, we might still have a spot for them. We haven’t released a single player because none are yet fully gone.

 

[1970crow]

Personally I'm not that impatient about delistings but an announcement of Ned McHenry's delisting would be very soothing and a boon for my mental health.

Ned can’t be delisted yet just in case ANB falls through.

 

[craig crowing]

Personally I'm not that impatient about delistings but an announcement of Ned McHenry's delisting would be very soothing and a boon for my mental health.

Yes please cannot relax until I receive official notification of that .
And no do not want to hear might re rookie either .
Also having trouble waiting for Cummings to sign for us as well.

 

[El Doederino]

The reason we haven’t delisted anyone yet is that depending on other trade/FA movements, we might still have a spot for them. We haven’t released a single player because none are yet fully gone.

Which is crap to be honest

We have a bunch of players who have shown their ceiling is not AFL standard

It shouldn't be a matter of waiting to see if we can get someone better

It should be that they aren't going to make it, and to let them go and try someone else. That someone else might not make it either, but we know the likes of Hamill, Parnell, McHenry, Jones, Burgess, Himmelberg etc aren't going to make it

Its just evidence the club still doesn't know what it is doing. It didn't know what it was doing when it recruited Brett Turner in the mid season draft, didn't play him and sacked him 6 months later. When it played Jimmy Rowe all season at the expense of other guys then delisted him. When it played Smith this year, triggered an extension then dropped him to the 2's. When it hadn't sorted out Tex's contract situation before the last home game of the season.

 

[hugecannon]

I don't really see it, to be honest. Does delisting players later in the delisting period make them feel better than if we do it earlier?

If your argument is that we've historically retained players that we should have delisted, I agree. But that's not what the posters in this thread are complaining about now. They're complaining that other clubs have started delisting players before us. I don't see why that is an issue.

I would have thought that delisting earlier could also give the player a chance to look at getting picked up as a DFA, which can be an attractive option for other teams as they don’t have to pay for them with any draft capital.

 

[budget]

Which is crap to be honest

We have a bunch of players who have shown their ceiling is not AFL standard

It shouldn't be a matter of waiting to see if we can get someone better

It should be that they aren't going to make it, and to let them go and try someone else. That someone else might not make it either, but we know the likes of Hamill, Parnell, McHenry, Jones, Burgess, Himmelberg etc aren't going to make it

Its just evidence the club still doesn't know what it is doing. It didn't know what it was doing when it recruited Brett Turner in the mid season draft, didn't play him and sacked him 6 months later. When it played Jimmy Rowe all season at the expense of other guys then delisted him. When it played Smith this year, triggered an extension then dropped him to the 2's. When it hadn't sorted out Tex's contract situation before the last home game of the season.

Clearly people replying to this topic know more than I do but how the hell do we get the big knobs at the club to act on these simple directions. In a very deep draft surely you take a gamble on a speculative pick instead of a “Murphy “


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[skam85]

Maybe we just want to be the envy of the competition "ooh look at those 15th placed Crows, they're so unlucky and stacked they can't even delist anyone before the preliminary finalists!"

 

[1970crow]

You’d think that a club with our success stories from the rookie draft would value a vacant list spot a little higher.

 

[skam85]

You’d think that a club with our success stories from the rookie draft would value a vacant list spot a little higher.

and now our rookie list is just used for players we delist but don't want to upset too much

 

[1970crow]

and now our rookie list is just used for players we delist but don't want to upset too much

We have a very strong public service culture. Including the bullying.

 

[Punchy Bassett]

Port Adelaide sack coach days after AFL finals exit

The Power have swung the axe, less than a week after their season ended.

7news.com.au

That's how you act when you fail.

 

[crow2crow]

If Hamill is medically retired, Curtin leaves, or Tex retires, those are additional delistings. It wouldn't be a case of not having announced them soon enough. Not relevant here.

Worrying about a trade target falling through certainly could have an impact on when we delist players. If we're planning on kicking an extra player out to make room for Cumming, and then Cumming chooses Port instead, we no longer need to clear up that extra list space. (Whether we should do it anyway and hit the draft is a separate question).

We are in a different situation to most other clubs this year. It's not like waiting until the last moment to announce our delistings is a trend our club has displayed over the years or anything.

they will just move strachan and smith to rookie list. there is actually no problem with spots

 

[119others]

Logic dictates with the decision on Cummin today (and missing Luko yesterday) that we can now finalise delisitings and announce it.

So the club prefers to announce all (or most) at once and not drip feed them out.

Good strategy in my eyes and most normal people who are fans (ie non BF hardcore ones) would be perfectly fine with a couple of week delay. Probably gets announced tomorrows on GF eve

 

[Pugsley]

I almost needed a doctor when a Facebook fan said Murphy should never play another game.