Politics Fascist takeover US 2025.

[Seeds]

USA is a warmongering country. Bad cops.

Sometimes yes.

But their presence and development of international frameworks has stopped far more numerous wars and helped overthrow countless dictatorships. The world would be a far worse place if it stayed isolationist in the 1940s.

 

[sdfc]

I mean it’s not like they aren’t openly stating that’s what they plan on doing.

Project 2025 - see that’s the problem with low information folk.

Trump would need the security services and military behind him to "end democracy". Seems farfetched.

 

[kranky al]

Trump would need the security services and military behind him to "end democracy". Seems farfetched.

Did you miss tuberville refusing to fill the top military spots for over a year?

Tuberville Drops Blockade of Most Military Promotions (Published 2023)

Under pressure from senators in both parties, the Alabama Republican allowed more than 400 promotions to move forward, saying he would continue to block only the most senior positions.

www.nytimes.com

 

[sdfc]

Did you miss tuberville refusing to fill the top military spots for over a year?

Tuberville Drops Blockade of Most Military Promotions (Published 2023)

Under pressure from senators in both parties, the Alabama Republican allowed more than 400 promotions to move forward, saying he would continue to block only the most senior positions.

www.nytimes.com

Hardly ending democracy.

 

[adammania9]

The last time the us went isolationist we had ww2……

History suggests Trump in office means little to no global conflict. This will likely repeat itself.

 

[kranky al]

Trump would need the security services and military behind him to "end democracy". Seems farfetched.

Did you miss tuberville refusing to fill the top military spots for over a year?

Tuberville Drops Blockade of Most Military Promotions (Published 2023)

Under pressure from senators in both parties, the Alabama Republican allowed more than 400 promotions to move forward, saying he would continue to block only the most senior positions.

www.nytimes.com

Hardly ending democracy.

 

[kranky al]

History suggests Trump in office means little to no global conflict. This will likely repeat itself.

Why?

When he tripled the drone strikes from Obamas era.

 

[kranky al]

More trump dickheadery:



Remember when trump relaxed regulations and let airlines regulate themselves? I member…..

AP Exclusive: Transport safety rules rolled back under Trump

WASHINGTON (AP) — On a clear, dry June evening in 2015, cars and trucks rolled slowly in a herky-jerky backup ahead of an Interstate 75 construction zone in Chattanooga, Tennessee.

apnews.com

<<<On transportation regs in general. Executive order by Trump himself. If you think season two is going to better, you are ****ING mistaken.

“These rules have been written in blood,” said John Risch, national legislative director for the International Association of Sheet Metal, Air, Rail and Transportation Workers. “But we’re in a new era now of little-to-no new regulations no matter how beneficial they might be. The focus is what can we repeal and rescind.”

Trump has made reducing regulations a priority, seeing many rules as an unnecessary burden on industry. Last month he tweeted that his administration “has terminated more UNNECESSARY Regulations, in just 12 months, than any other Administration has terminated during their full term in office...”>>>

 

[kranky al]

 

[kranky al]

 

[HairyO]

Pro-tip.
The people burning books are not the good guys.

Which doesnt leave much given how many people on the left want books banned as well.

 

[kranky al]

 

[kranky al]

Which doesnt leave much given how many people on the left want books banned as well.

Yes because banning a book saying the Sandy hook massacre was a false flag operation is the same thing.

 

[HairyO]

Yes because banning a book saying the Sandy hook massacre was a false flag operation is the same thing.

So you believe in censorship.

What about banning Mark Twain books?

 

[Gough]

Which doesnt leave much given how many people on the left want books banned as well.

I've got a copy of Jock of the Bushveld which would make your eyes water but if you get the context and time that it was written in it it expose the sort of pathetic base colonial racism that existed at the time more than encouraging it, same with Mein Kampf, no rational person could try to read that and think Hitler knew what he was on about. Even shit books can educate and a but the left here isn't much of an argument when you look what's happening parts of America, it doesn't really compare to the odd activist here. Anyway, the last book I can remember people wanting to ban here was Yumi Stynes' sex ed book and those calls weren't coming from the left of politics.

 

[burge13]

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Been debunked. He's talking about a bloodbath for the auto industry if you look beyond the headline or 7 second edited clip lol

 

[bourbons]

Trump would need the security services and military behind him to "end democracy". Seems farfetched.

But not to remove actual professionals from departments and stuff them with his loyalists, or to enact voting changes such as the ones just floated by Lara Trump.

Its all there in black and white in the Project 2025 stuff, have a read.

 

[bourbons]

Why?

When he tripled the drone strikes from Obamas era.

Yeah a nice narrow definition of 'conflict' there, as it always seems to be with Trump for some reason.

 

[Blue1980]

This thread? Yeah probably. I’ll give you a summary of what happens if Trump wins the election.

You wake up, you go to work, you come home and sleep. Four years later there’s another election.

Thinking of it in those terms for you personally, sure it might happen that way, as it largely has since WWII for us here in Australia.

People are a bit too complacent about it all though, and I think it’s because those who were alive for WWII are largely no longer with us. They saw the dangers and signs, now many boomers and onwards think everything will be fine forever. (At least in the western world)

 

[Blue1980]

Discussions are lovely. Posting hyperbolic babble like "Trump will end democracy in the USA" isn't interesting nor constructive

It won’t happen in a day, or instantly, it would happen gradually enough so people like you would go “hey it ain’t so bad, I’m still doing fine”.

As I keep saying look at Orban in Hungary for what Trump and MAGA movement are looking to do. Hungary still have all the superficial trappings of democracy (they have elections), however there is authoritarianism creep which has been going on well over a decade.

 

[Blue1980]

A bit of talk about 'hyperbole' in here.

Ok, if trump gets in it may not be immediate armageddon and I don't think that's what's being claimed here adammania9

What IS reality is that trump is an isolationist, and that means our reliance on the US should we need it will be at the very least lessened. At the very worst who knows. High probability we can forget about the auskus deal, whether or not one thinks it's good or not is moot. The point is that ol Donnie is all about murica and phuq everyone else.

The world will lose its global policeman, and that will encourage Vlad and Xi to further their non democratic regimes, yes an actual threat of oppression to democracy.

Now, there's more than a few in here that would be cheerleading the us NOT be the global policeman, the message to them and you if that is your position is, be careful what you wish for.

So unless you're not a fan of liberal democracy, which if donnie gets in makes that a possibility then I'd start taking this seriously.

Of course it won’t happen instantly. People think these things happen with really obvious moustache twirling super villains and if those aren’t present, it’s nothing to worry about.

 

[Blue1980]

I mean it’s not like they aren’t openly stating that’s what they plan on doing.

Project 2025 - see that’s the problem with low information folk.

Yes they are literally spelling out exactly what they plan to do, yet many here still somehow think anything about what Trump and MAGA movement want to do is overblown.

I assume it’s because they are simply unaware of it and low information folk.

 

[Blue1980]

Which doesnt leave much given how many people on the left want books banned as well.

Well about that https://www.thedailybeast.com/even-ron-desantis-thinks-florida-book-removals-have-gone-too-far

What are the left banning again?

 

[Blue1980]

I've got a copy of Jock of the Bushveld which would make your eyes water but if you get the context and time that it was written in it it expose the sort of pathetic base colonial racism that existed at the time more than encouraging it, same with Mein Kampf, no rational person could try to read that and think Hitler knew what he was on about. Even s**t books can educate and a but the left here isn't much of an argument when you look what's happening parts of America, it doesn't really compare to the odd activist here. Anyway, the last book I can remember people wanting to ban here was Yumi Stynes' sex ed book and those calls weren't coming from the left of politics.

Yes also those book bans re mark Twain aren’t being driven by the Democratic Party, the Florida book bans are clearly GOP led.

 

[HairyO]

Well about that https://www.thedailybeast.com/even-ron-desantis-thinks-florida-book-removals-have-gone-too-far

What are the left banning again?

Abraham Lincoln. Mark Twain. Dr Seuss.

Morons are on both sides. Its not just one side.