Politics Fascist takeover US 2025.

[schneebly111]

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Is there any other type?

 

[Gethelred]

 

[ElectricG]

She is the star of that show

 

[bourbons]

This one will be even better. Nobody could possibly in a million years explain how their lives are better day to day under Biden yet will melt. Let alone people ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PLANET melting over it. It will be glorious to watch, knowing it doesn't make the single bit of difference to my life, or the melters.

Would have to be quite something to top the extended slow motion car crash of a dummy spit that occurred among MAGA enthusiasts on this board in 2020.

 

[burge13]

Would have to be quite something to top the extended slow motion car crash of a dummy spit that occurred among MAGA enthusiasts on this board in 2020.

American (global?) politics the last decade...

 

[CM86]

I cannot wait for Trump to win. The melts will be so funny

Who are the people who will 'melt' that would give you such pleasure that it would offset the negative outcomes from a Trump Presidency?

That talking point worked in 2016, and still a little in 2020. But it's almost impossible to justify anymore, so I'd be interested to see your honest reasoning.

 

[schneebly111]

I cannot wait for Trump to win. The melts will be so funny

I’ll be more concerned about the people getting killed when Putin’s tanks roll into Kyiv after Trump cuts off support for Ukraine.

 

[bourbons]

Books aren't being banned, they are simply not being provided in school libraries, but they are still available to purchase. Should the schools also provide playboy and 50 shades of grey?

Yeah coz thats what the school library removals are stopping

Do you think books about gay people should be removed from school libraries?

 

[bourbons]

Unlike Biden, who handed back the classified documents he took.

You've correctly identified here one of the many factors influencing how Biden and Trump's legal situation differs re: classified docs, well done.

 

[burge13]

I’ll be more concerned about the people getting killed when Putin’s tanks roll into Kyiv after Trump cuts off support for Ukraine.

They've given 100s of billions to Ukraine, madness. I wonder who's syphoning off all that $...

Putin also invaded on Bidens watch, in fact no wars under Trump...

 

[CM86]

Unlike Biden, who handed back the classified documents he took.

That's amazing.

Because at some point you're going to dismiss this as anything of import, as you run down the excuse ladder to defend Trump.

 

[CM86]

They've given 100s of billions to Ukraine, madness. I wonder who's syphoning off all that $...

Putin also invaded on Bidens watch, in fact no wars under Trump...

So your position is that the US President has obvious global impacts based on who they are, their actions and their intiatives.

But also, you want Trump because you're pretending the US President won't have any global impact, and it's worth it for the 'melts'?


Why don't you just be honest with your position and reasons for it?

 

[burge13]

So your position is that the US President has obvious global impacts based on who they are, their actions and their intiatives.

But also, you want Trump because you're pretending the US President won't have any global impact, and it's worth it for the 'melts'?


Why don't you just be honest with your position and reasons for it?

You lot are greatly overreacting and imagining odd scenarios if trump won. None will happen

Interesting you didnt actually dispute what I said about it all. 100s of billions in "aid" sent to Ukraine. That is utterly mental and clearly dodgy.

Id prefer trump win because the srp regulars will be unhappy with it. Mix that with the top line, and nothing will change for us in Australia day to day. Remember this if it happens and your life is no different. Good learning experience

 

[kranky al]

You lot are greatly overreacting and imagining odd scenarios if trump won. None will happen

Interesting you didnt actually dispute what I said about it all. 100s of billions in "aid" sent to Ukraine. That is utterly mental and clearly dodgy.

Id prefer trump win because the srp regulars will be unhappy with it. Mix that with the top line, and nothing will change for us in Australia day to day. Remember this if it happens and your life is no different. Good learning experience

Yes, I remember in 2015 when we were saying that he would stack the Supreme Court. How wrong we were eh?


As for the money to Ukraine, I’ll explain this slowly and simply so even you might just understand it.

For over a hundred years the ussr and America have been bitter enemies, anything America would try to do, Russia would oppose and anything Russia would try to do, America would oppose.

Theres tens of thousands of dead Americans that died from weapons donated to countries / organisations that were at war with America.

Now Russia has invaded a sovereign country and the us get to completely and utterly degrade Russia as a non nuclear threat for at the least a generation. They get to sit back and watch trillions of dollars of Russian equipment that Russia can’t afford to replace, be destroyed by billions of dollars of old American gear, that was close to its use by date and needed to be replaced - so it’s not even worth the inflated amounts claimed.

And America doesn’t have to risk one single us soldiers life.

So its win/ win for the us to do this.

They help out a country being bullied, stoke their own economy, screw a historical enemy over.

There is literally no downside - unless of course you are in the pocket of the dictator of Russia….

 

[Gethelred]

You lot are greatly overreacting and imagining odd scenarios if trump won. None will happen

Look.

If we're wrong and you're right, I'll ****ing say it first. I'll be among the first people to declare it.

But there lies the problem: I don't think our judgement of Trump is wrong.

I can remember hearing the adults talking about 2001 Howard as though it was the end of the world. I remember living through it, and thinking they were exaggerating; then, I remember how reading writing from Iraqi's of the same era as an adult and re-evaluating how I felt. I remember how Trump worked in 2016, when he first truly got what he wanted; I thought, pretty honestly, that he'd use the position to line his own pockets and that'd be it.

I never thought Jan 6th would happen. That's where he differed; where what looked like make believe, a mask he wore for the prols who hated the establishment could get behind, began to slip.

He actively campaigned for Mike Pence to be hanged; had they found the bloke, they'd have done it.

I really hope you're right, Burge. Really, I do. But if you're not, how will you react?

 

[kranky al]

 

[burge13]

Look.

If we're wrong and you're right, I'll ******* say it first. I'll be among the first people to declare it.

But there lies the problem: I don't think our judgement of Trump is wrong.

I can remember hearing the adults talking about 2001 Howard as though it was the end of the world. I remember living through it, and thinking they were exaggerating; then, I remember how reading writing from Iraqi's of the same era as an adult and re-evaluating how I felt. I remember how Trump worked in 2016, when he first truly got what he wanted; I thought, pretty honestly, that he'd use the position to line his own pockets and that'd be it.

I never thought Jan 6th would happen. That's where he differed; where what looked like make believe, a mask he wore for the prols who hated the establishment could get behind, begane to slip.

He actively campaigned for Mike Pence to be hanged; had they found the bloke, they'd have done it.

I really hope you're right, Burge. Really, I do. But if you're not, how will you react?

Ive read people in here claim if trump wins there'll be no more elections, pull out of nato, or outright civil war (though for this it takes 2 to tango and the "peaceful protestors" aren't exactly nice people so this is an odd one to pin on him). If you believe this happens, you must believe in Santa.

The states are degrading at warp speed. Trump or Biden are completely irrelevant to this. They are simply ****ed and doing nothing to un**** it, either side.

For people in Australia to melt over trump is just unhinged. Bring on november or whenever it is

 

[Gethelred]

Ive read people in here claim if trump wins there'll be no more elections, pull out of nato, or outright civil war (though for this it takes 2 to tango and the "peaceful protestors" aren't exactly nice people so this is an odd one to pin on him). If you believe this happens, you must believe in Santa.

The states are degrading at warp speed. Trump or Biden are completely irrelevant to this. They are simply ***ed and doing nothing to un it, either side.

For people in Australia to melt over trump is just unhinged. Bring on november or whenever it is

As stated in the post you replied to, I really hope you're right, Burge.

 

[kranky al]

Ive read people in here claim if trump wins there'll be no more elections, pull out of nato, or outright civil war (though for this it takes 2 to tango and the "peaceful protestors" aren't exactly nice people so this is an odd one to pin on him). If you believe this happens, you must believe in Santa.

The states are degrading at warp speed. Trump or Biden are completely irrelevant to this. They are simply ***ed and doing nothing to un it, either side.

For people in Australia to melt over trump is just unhinged. Bring on november or whenever it is

Might want to do a little reading on project 2025.


It’s not like they are hiding it. The first step was to stack the Supreme Court. They refused to appoint any more judges when Obama was in power and then in the same circumstances rammed judges through when trump was in power.


The next step will be the first hundred days if trump wins. They plan to replace the entire public service at management level with handpicked conservatives. Everything to do with any kind of state power will be run by their folk. Elections. Where the polling booths are.

I mean its not like we havnt seen the exact same playbook play out before other totalitarian governments have taken power. But I guess to know this you either have to be taught it or have an enquiring mind and seek the information out yourself.

 

[burge13]

Might want to do a little reading on project 2025.


It’s not like they are hiding it. The first step was to stack the Supreme Court. They refused to appoint any more judges when Obama was in power and then in the same circumstances rammed judges through when trump was in power.


The next step will be the first hundred days if trump wins. They plan to replace the entire public service at management level with handpicked conservatives. Everything to do with any kind of state power will be run by their folk. Elections. Where the polling booths are.

I mean its not like we havnt seen the exact same playbook play out before other totalitarian governments have taken power. But I guess to know this you either have to be taught it or have an enquiring mind and seek the information out yourself.

and you guys have the nerve to call other people "cookers". Good grief, the hypocrisy

Replace the entire public service at management level. Yep, ok

Be sure to check for monsters under the bed tonight.

 

[Mofra]

I’ll be more concerned about the people getting killed when Putin’s tanks roll into Kyiv after Trump cuts off support for Ukraine.

Yeah - murder, rape and torture of civilians. And some people find it funny. Pretty sick of you ask me.

 

[kranky al]

and you guys have the nerve to call other people "cookers". Good grief, the hypocrisy

Replace the entire public service at management level. Yep, ok

Be sure to check for monsters under the bed tonight.

I mean it’s not like they don’t have it out there on paper and online for you to find.

It’s not like they have interviews where the people planning it openly talk about it.

Conservatives aim to restructure U.S. government and replace it with Trump's vision

The goal is to avoid the pitfalls of Trump’s first years in office, when the Republican president’s team was ill-prepared, his Cabinet nominees had trouble winning Senate confirmation and policies were met with resistance.

www.pbs.org

‘Project 2025’: plan to dismantle US climate policy for next Republican president | Climate crisis | The Guardian

Rightwing groups penned a conservative wish list of proposals for the next conservative president to gut environmental protections

amp.theguardian.com

But of course if it happens, you will brush it off and move to defend the the next thing they are doing. Theres never an argument in good faith with you folk. There is never an admission that you got something wrong.

 

[burge13]

I mean it’s not like they don’t have it out there on paper and online for you to find.

It’s not like they have interviews where the people planning it openly talk about it.

Conservatives aim to restructure U.S. government and replace it with Trump's vision

The goal is to avoid the pitfalls of Trump’s first years in office, when the Republican president’s team was ill-prepared, his Cabinet nominees had trouble winning Senate confirmation and policies were met with resistance.

www.pbs.org

‘Project 2025’: plan to dismantle US climate policy for next Republican president | Climate crisis | The Guardian

Rightwing groups penned a conservative wish list of proposals for the next conservative president to gut environmental protections

amp.theguardian.com

But of course if it happens, you will brush it off and move to defend the the next thing they are doing. Theres never an argument in good faith with you folk. There is never an admission that you got something wrong.

If the lunacy (conspiracy theory) many of you predict I'll say I was wrong.

I think you could all benefit from not stressing over imaginative what ifs though. Not doing you any good, all very very unlikely

 

[Gough]

If the lunacy (conspiracy theory) many of you predict I'll say I was wrong.

I think you could all benefit from not stressing over imaginative what ifs though. Not doing you any good, all very very unlikely

So you think Trump's lying about his intentions if he wins?

 

[kranky al]

If the lunacy (conspiracy theory) many of you predict I'll say I was wrong.

I think you could all benefit from not stressing over imaginative what ifs though. Not doing you any good, all very very unlikely

Sigh.

A conspiracy theory is when people theorise based on hidden or hard to find information, or tie together bits of information and try to make a connection between them.

Not when well funded organisations publically and repeatedly announce in written, online and in interview formats, manifestos of their explicit intentions.