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[BluesFever]

A Nazi sympathizing anti-vaxxer is representative of at least some of the modern Republican party. It's a by-product of courting white supremacist groups for the past few decades.
It's very naive to suggest otherwise.

Are you trying to be a parody of yourself?

So the Republican Party is led by Trump. Trump was the President that oversaw the development of the vaccine. Yet somehow Republicans are anti-vaxer?

Republicans are now anti-Jewish, yet Trump has been very open about supporting Israel.

The mental gymnastics in your mind to justify your comments to yourself is hilarious

 

[Gethelred]

utter garbage

you got caught out being deceitful in your premise

Dude, that she's even on the ballot is rather telling.

Congrats on confirming that you are simply a cheer leader for one side

... I mean:

Trump was President for 4 years. No wars in those years. Peace was forming in the Middle East. North Korea was behaving. Iran was weakened.

AUKUS was conceived under Trump’s DOD.

He didn’t end NATO. He simply wants member states to meet their funding commitments. Everything else is bluster to achieve that goal. Would it be nice if he did it as a mature adult rather than a man baby - sure. But his point is correct and his policy resulted in peace compared to the current situation.

... it's a bit weird accusing someone else that they're a cheerleader when you've your own pompoms out.

So the Republican Party is led by Trump. Trump was the President that oversaw the development of the vaccine. Yet somehow Republicans are anti-vaxer?

According to this, giving Trump the credit for the vaccine rises to the level of misinfo. Do you have a justification for claiming that Trump oversaw the development of the vaccine?

The mental gymnastics in your mind to justify your comments to yourself is hilarious

And yet, you really don't seem to be laughing. You seem rather... strident, to be honest.

You're also going a good deal harder than one thinks is needful. Perhaps take a moment and a breath, and put down your thoughts a mite more considered.

 

[CM86]

Why do you care what my view is? I am not a member of the Republican Party (or any party).

But seen as you seem so interested in my views, which I will pretend is not a form of deflection:

Gay marriage - love is love. You can't control who you love and I don't see why gay people should be treated differently. I have both gay and straight friends. I don't see any of my gay friends that are married any differently to my straight married friends.

Trans being illegal - thats just nonsensical. You can have a discussion about what age surgergy should be permitted and what age the concept is taught to children, but a consenting adult that is transgender has every right to exist as someone that is gay, straight, male, female or a midget. At the end of the day who is it hurting?

Exile all Jews - no I think the Jewish population have made a great contribution to Western society. I also don't think you target people based on their religious beliefs. There are good and bad Christiams, Muslims, Jews, Hindus etc

Thank you for your reply.

How do you hold those beliefs, while opposing 'leftism', and supporting the current Republican party, including Trump?

Because they are actively spreading hateful rhetoric against transgenderism. And obviously a push against homosexuality as well.

 

[BluesFever]

Dude, that she's even on the ballot is rather telling.

you can't kick someone out of a primary without a court order. That is the party ballot process

... I mean:

Miss the part where I have previously said I wish neither Trump nor Biden was on the ballot?

.. it's a bit weird accusing someone else that they're a cheerleader when you've your own pompoms out.

Looking at a record objectively for someone I don't support returning to the White House is having my pompoms out?

According to this, giving Trump the credit for the vaccine rises to the level of misinfo. Do you have a justification for claiming that Trump oversaw the development of the vaccine?

Way to change the premise. Trump was the President who setup Operation Warpspeed that allowed the private sector to create the vaccine so quickly. He has publicly supported the vaccine. Your BFF's claim was Republicans are anti-vaxer. My point is how can the party be when its leader was the President who oversaw its development and told people to take it?

And yet, you really don't seem to be laughing. You seem rather... strident, to be honest.

You're also going a good deal harder than one thinks is needful. Perhaps take a moment and a breath, and put down your thoughts a mite more considered.

Big surprise you are defending your partner in crime who made an outlandish claim that has zero substance. When that is pointed out of course you attack the poster doing so.

Maybe it isn't in the rules, but shouldn't a moderator try and be slightly impartial and not partisan?

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Way to change the premise. Trump was the President who setup Operation Warpspeed that allowed the private sector to create the vaccine so quickly. He has publicly supported the vaccine. Your BFF's claim was Republicans are anti-vaxer. My point is how can the party be when its leader was the President who oversaw its development and told people to take it?

Fauci oversaw the development while Trump fiddled with UV lamps and bleach.

Dolly Parton did more than Trump in regards to vaccine development.

 

[BluesFever]

Thank you for your reply.

How do you hold those beliefs, while opposing 'leftism', and supporting the current Republican party, including Trump?

Because they are actively spreading hateful rhetoric against transgenderism. And obviously a push against homosexuality as well.

Where have I said I support Trump? I specifically said I hope he nor Biden wins in 2024.

You do realise Trump is pro-gay marriage and took pictures hugging the LGBT flag. Republicans have accepted gay marriage, apart from a tiny minority (Dems have similar leftist nutcases). There is no push against homosexuality from mainstream republicans.

Republicans oppose surgery for people under 18 that identify as transgender. They don't support genetically male athletes playing female sport. They don't support children in primary school having to hear about transgender issues.

None of that is anti-Trans.

 

[BluesFever]

Fauci oversaw the development while Trump fiddled with UV lamps and bleach.

Dolly Parton did more than Trump in regards to vaccine development.

Fauci? Seriously? The guy who said don't wear masks, then wear masks. The guy who funded things he should not have. Yeah sure Fauci

 

[Gough]

Fauci oversaw the development while Trump fiddled with UV lamps and bleach.

Dolly Parton did more than Trump in regards to vaccine development.

She's had less surgery and wears less make-up than Trump too.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

She's had less surgery and wears less make-up than Trump too.

She never defrauded any charities either. Trump, on the other hand....

 

[BluesFever]

She's had less surgery and wears less make-up than Trump too.

yet if someone insulted the appearance of one of your favourite politicians it would be a capital offence

 

[Ghost Patrol]

yet if someone insulted the appearance of one of your favourite politicians it would be a capital offence

Your mask slipped off. This shows Trump is one of your favorite politicians.

Just be honest about it, no point pretending otherwise after this.

 

[Gethelred]

Way to change the premise. Trump was the President who setup Operation Warpspeed that allowed the private sector to create the vaccine so quickly. He has publicly supported the vaccine. Your BFF's claim was Republicans are anti-vaxer. My point is how can the party be when its leader was the President who oversaw its development and told people to take it?

Several things.

One: you made a claim in your post, that Trump was responsible for the vaccine. The linked article factchecked that claim and found it misleading at a level that rises to misinformation.

When you post to this forum, you are personally responsible for ensuring that what you post is not misinformative. This is why you received a warning last time. You need to provide a good faith basis for your view, or you will receive an infraction for misinformation.

You have 24 hours to provide a source which supports your claim that Trump was directly responsible for development of one of the Covid-19 vaccines.

Two: you need to calm down. You seem to be posting deliberately antagonistically, as though seeking to start an argument as opposed to having a conversation.

No surprise you are defending your partner in crime...

... lolwut?

... who made an outlandish claim that has zero substance.

Again, on the ballot.

When that is pointed out of course you attack the poster doing so.

I've made a comment about how you're posting frequently and requoting the same post twice, with the second post being markedly more sophisticated (if still antagonistic).

You seem to take issue with someone making an observation about you based upon evidence.

Maybe it isn't in the rules, but shouldn't a moderator try and be slightly impartial and not partisan?

Methinks you should consider further what happened the last time you opined on the forum rules.

 

[Gough]

yet if someone insulted the appearance of one of your favourite politicians it would be a capital offence

Touch much? I think Dolly is fab.

 

[BluesFever]

Several things.

One: you made a claim in your post, that Trump was responsible for the vaccine. The linked article factchecked that claim and found it misleading at a level that rises to misinformation.

When you post to this forum, you are personally responsible for ensuring that what you post is not misinformative. This is why you received a warning last time. You need to provide a good faith basis for your view, or you will receive an infraction for misinformation.

You have 24 hours to provide a source which supports your claim that Trump was directly responsible for development of one of the Covid-19 vaccines.

Two: you need to calm down. You seem to be posting deliberately antagonistically, as though seeking to start an argument as opposed to having a conversation.

... lolwut?

Again, on the ballot.

I've made a comment about how you're posting frequently and requoting the same post twice, with the second post being markedly more sophisticated (if still antagonistic).

You seem to take issue with someone making an observation about you based upon evidence.

Methinks you should consider further what happened the last time you opined on the forum rules.

Where did I claim “Trump was responsible for the vaccine”?

What I actually said was “Trump was President who oversaw the development”.

Nice movement of the goal posts.

Feel free to quote where I said “Trump was directly responsible for the vaccine”

 

[BluesFever]

Quoting the same site you used - Operation Warp Speed Head Says Trump Administration Responsible For 90% Of Vaccine Rollout

How about someone from John Hopkins University? - https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5806820

Republicans are anti-vaxers was your BFFs original premise. Yet their leader continues to praise the vaccine - Trump renews praise for Covid vaccines, 'one of the greatest achievements of mankind'

Feel free to apologise

 

[BluesFever]

Your mask slipped off. This shows Trump is one of your favorite politicians.

Just be honest about it, no point pretending otherwise after this.

How so? Because I don’t think we should comment on any politicians appearance? Nice try

I would like Mark Cuban to run for President. That would be my pick if you really want to know

 

[Gethelred]

Quoting the same site you used - Operation Warp Speed Head Says Trump Administration Responsible For 90% Of Vaccine Rollout

From your own link:

Speaking during a Sunday morning appearance on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” Moncef Slaoui, the head of the vaccine development partnership under the Trump administration, described recent claims by President Joe Biden that his administration was left without a coherent vaccine plan as a “very negative description of the reality.”

... which entails that it's true, he just didn't like how it sounded.

How about someone from John Hopkins University? - https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5806820

From this link:

Indeed, Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine development and manufacturing costs have been entirely funded by the company.

So, no.

Republicans are anti-vaxers was your BFFs original premise. Yet their leader continues to praise the vaccine - Trump renews praise for Covid vaccines, 'one of the greatest achievements of mankind'

You apportioned credit for the vaccine response to Trump. You - and you alone - are responsible for the claims you make on this site.

You have 23 hours and 35 minutes.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

How so? Because I don’t think we should comment on any politicians appearance? Nice try

I would like Mark Cuban to run for President. That would be my pick if you really want to know

You specifically mentioned 'favorite politicians' in defense of Trump.

Classic example of Freudian slip.

 

[BluesFever]

From your own link:

... which entails that it's true, he just didn't like how it sounded.

From this link:

So, no.

You apportioned credit for the vaccine response to Trump. You - and you alone - are responsible for the claims you make on this site.

You have 23 hours and 35 minutes.

Just issue the ban

Whatever I post you will twist the words to suit your agenda

 

[BluesFever]

You specifically mentioned 'favorite politicians' in defense of Trump.

Classic example of Freudian slip.

The only thing slipping is your mask of hatred and bias. This is clearly the board for the green left weekly. Alternative views not welcome

Most States have a human rights act. Persecution based on political opinion is actionable. I have better things to do but one day someone will sue your ilk for what is clear political discrimination

 

[Ghost Patrol]

The only thing slipping is your mask of hatred and bias. This is clearly the board for the green left weekly

So you're saying it's not real hatred, bias and/or leftism? It's just a mask?

 

[schneebly111]

Trump was President for 4 years. No wars in those years. Peace was forming in the Middle East. North Korea was behaving. Iran was weakened.

I love how Trump supporters pretend he was a pacifist. In reality:

Trump bombed more than Bush and Obama combined:

Trump may have bombed Yemen more than Bush and Obama combined

In his first year in office, President Trump loosened rules of engagement and oversaw a dramatic escalation of US attacks in Yemen.

www.businessinsider.com

Trump increased bombing in Afghanistan by over 400% with the resulting increase in civilian casualties:

U.S. Drone Strikes Have Gone Up 432% Since Trump Took Office - World BEYOND War

By Carey Wedler, Popular Resistance. When he was in office, former President Barack Obama earned the ire of anti-war activists for his expansion of Bush’s drone wars. The Nobel Peace Prize-winning head of state ordered ten times more drone strikes than the previous president, and estimates late...

worldbeyondwar.org

Trump covered up drone strike death numbers:

US to stop revealing drone deaths - BBC News

The US will not have to publish how many civilians are killed in drone strikes outside of war zones.

www.bbc.com

Trump increased support for Saudi Arabia’s brutal bombing of Yemen:

The Trump Administration Embraces the Saudi-Led War in Yemen

The Trump administration will now resume U. S. munitions supplies to Saudi Arabia to help it defeat Iranian-backed rebels in Yemen’s civil war after Congress failed by a narrow margin to block the controversial sale of $500 million worth of bombs. The resumption comes one the eve of a...

www.wilsoncenter.org

Trump abandoned the Kurds in Syria:

Trump defends decision to abandon Kurdish allies in Syria

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump cast his decision to abandon Kurdish fighters in Syria as fulfilling a campaign promise to withdraw from "endless war" in the Middle East, even as Republican critics and others said he was sacrificing a U.S. ally and undermining American credibility.

apnews.com

Trump pulled out of the Iran Nuclear Deal, which Iran was abiding by and was working, leading to sanctions which led to the increased deaths of Iranians:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/08/22/trump-must-stop-sanctioning-iranians-death/

Trump illegally assassinated Soleimani almost sparking a regional war:

Qassem Soleimani air strike: why this is a dangerous escalation of US assassination policy

The Trump administration is only the latest to push the boundaries of the law to take out foreign adversaries.

theconversation.com

Trump increased bombing in Somalia:

The Trump Administration's Air Strikes in Somalia Are On the Rise Again—and Civilians Are Paying the Price

"Civilians are still dying." In the midst of the pandemic U.S. air strikes in Somalia are exacting a deadly toll. To what end?

time.com

Trump backed Libyan warlords bombing refugee camps:

Warlord backed by Trump is blamed for bombing a migrant camp in Libya

"This attack clearly could constitute a war crime."

www.motherjones.com

Trump was the most pro Netanyahu President ever letting Israel take more land in the West Bank:

Trump’s Legacy in Israel

Donald Trump’s alignment with Benjamin Netanyahu has been so total that, ahead of the U.S. Presidential election, sixty-three per cent of Israelis supported him over Joe Biden.

www.newyorker.com

Trump’s decision to move the embassy to Jerusalem was a disaster that led to more civilian dead in Gaza:

58 dead in Gaza protests as Israel fetes US Embassy move

In 2018 Russia attacked Ukrainian ships in the Sea of Azov. It’s thought Trump’s lack of strong condemnation then maybe encouraged Putin to fully invade 4 years later:

The battle for Azov: Round 1 goes to Russia | Brookings

Russia's recent attack on a Ukrainian boat foreshadows a Russian bid to establish unilateral control over the Kerch Strait and perhaps blockade Ukrainian ports on the Sea of Azov. Unfortunately, the United States and Europe have reacted weakly.

www.brookings.edu

Trump’s trade war with China was a total failure. It screwed up Australia’s relationship with China until recently:

https://www.axios.com/2021/02/01/trump-trade-war-china-failure

Trump Admin launched a coup against democratically elected Evo Morales in Bolivia:

Silence reigns on the US-backed coup against Evo Morales in Bolivia | Evo Morales | The Guardian

The Organization of American States had a key role in the destruction of the country’s democracy last November, says Mark Weisbrot of the Center for Economic and Policy Research in Washington

amp.theguardian.com

Trump backed coup attempt in Venezuela failed:

Trump-Backed Dream of a Venezuela Coup Dies With Maduro Gaining Power

Opposition leader’s ouster puts Citgo and $1 billion in gold at risk as the pro-democracy movement faces long odds to victory.

www.bloomberg.com

South Koreans admit Trump failed on North Korea, didn’t stop world’s craziest dictator from getting nukes:

South Korea's president said Trump 'failed' on North Korea

Trump met with Kim Jong Un on denuclearization several times, but North Korea retains its nuclear arsenal and the talks were unsuccessful overall.

www.businessinsider.com

Congress passed two bipartisan resolutions trying to end Trump supported conflicts in Yemen and Iran, meaning congress had to pull his administration back from the brink of conflict.

It has been Biden who has been the pacifist. Pulling out of Afghanistan, ending the drone war, supporting diplomatic solutions in Yemen, supporting democratically elected governments in Latin America. Whilst smartly supporting the nations that are in real need of help like Ukraine. Only blot was Israel-Gaza war initially although now they are belatedly calling for a ceasefire.

 

[kranky al]

This person is not a Republican. They are trying to run in a primary and have been widely condemned by the GOP - MassGOP warns against voting for Republican committee candidate: ‘Reprehensible rhetoric’

Very clear this does not represent the Republican Party and your suggestion that is the case demonstrates how biased you are.

Care to retract your post and apologise?

They are a member of the Republican party and a candidate up for selection.

You would hope that given her utterances that she would be kicked out of the party and refused any semblance of a candidacy.


Of course if this were 1946 she wouldn’t have just been kicked out of the Republican Party, some woman whose husband died at the hands of the Nazis would have kicked the scomo out of her.

You trying to manufacture outrage is hilarious. A party with anything that resembles decent standards doesn’t admit Nazis.

 

[kranky al]

you can't kick someone out of a primary without a court order. That is the party ballot process

Back when there were still decent folk in the naz…. Err Republican party…

<<<SAN DIEGO -- An anti-Semitic Senate candidate who praised Adolf Hitler has been kicked out of the California Republican Party's convention in San Diego. State GOP spokesman Matt Fleming says Patrick Little was ejected from the gathering Saturday.

Little is running against Democrat Sen. Dianne Feinstein, who's seeking a fifth full term. He made headlines when a recent poll put him in second place with 18 percent of the vote.

Little's campaign website advocates for "limiting representation of Jews in the government."


Fleming says Little has never been an active member of the party. Fleming says the GOP condemns "anti-Semitism and any other form of religious bigotry.">>>

Source: Neo-Nazi Senate candidate kicked out of California GOP convention

 

[kranky al]