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So is Heeney worth #2 or is it more s strategic move against the bidding system?
Paul Roos making a strategic bid to scuttle Sydney? ok...
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So is Heeney worth #2 or is it more s strategic move against the bidding system?
Moore was your only opportunity of getting one of the gun KPF's.
Waterman rating sure went down after the U-18 Champs where people where saying they had to use a 1st Rounder on him
So Melbourne bid pick 2 on Heeney, OK.
Is that the highest bid or the only bid? I find it hard to believe a kid worth pick 2 to one club isn't worth anywhere from pick 3-16 to the others.
So Melbourne bid pick 2 on Heeney, OK.
Is that the highest bid or the only bid? I find it hard to believe a kid worth pick 2 to one club isn't worth anywhere from pick 3-16 to the others.
I know Heeney will be a damn good player but was he legitimately #2 in the draft ??? Or did Melbourne bidding with #2 more highlight/exaggerate the issues with the academy than reflect his true value?
Only 1 bid gets made. There would be no point in Carlton bidding #6 as Melbourne #2 trumps it anyway. Once a bid is in the only thing that matters is if the original club matches it or if the bidding club gets the player.
All that matters for Sydney in this case is if anyone bids at all. No bids, he's pick 70 or so.
They've got 17, 35, 43, 71 or similar. Someone bids 34, they take him at 35. Someone bids 16, they take him at 17. Surely there is some sort of back and forth? 2 vs 6 vs 10 etc. only matters if the Swans don't match with pick 17.
Ah no.
If a team that bids then their bid is automatically locked to player. So if Swans didn't match with 17 then dees locked into taking him pick 2. As they are the highest pick they have rights and no back and forth.
Yeah but this is because the bidding is done in draft order, which means we avoid the possibility of a club bidding pick 10 before another club bidding pick 8 etc.
ie 1st bid is always the highest that another club is willing to pay because it is done in draft order.
Stop sooking Pies fans, no such thing as a free lunch in the father/son game anymore. I don't recall North fans throwing toys out of the cot when the Coasters forced them to use their first rounder on Luke McDonald
It means Melbourne rate him similar enough to Brayshaw, and as a top 5 talent. They would also not necessarily know how other clubs rate him, so went "early" on him because at end of the day, Sydney only had to give up the same pick for him whether it was Melbourne with 2 or Port Adelaide with 17.Exactly, it was a no brainer to nominate for him but does #2 really reflect his value? I thought he was more a #5 selection. Melbourne nominating with #2 gives the impression that Sydney have make a mockery of the bidding system, getting him with a selection 15 spots from where the bid comes from and puts pressure on change in the future. If someone closer to Sydney made the nominating then the pressure wouldn't be as high.
So is Heeney worth #2 or is it more s strategic move against the bidding system?
Read the article about Jermaine Lewis-Miller's route to the draft. There's opportunity there's for those kids. Recent example of drafted player with opportunity has been Josh Simpson at Fremantle.For metropolitan Perth sure. But rural kids from the North West certainly could benefit from such an academy.
Heeney is proof that intervention and long term development through AFL clubs has drastic benefits for young players. The problems are just starting for the academy system and it's bias.
Why exactly do Sydney need and deserve an academy?
Why doesn't the AFL give all clubs an academy.
Eagles have first dibs to bid on an East Perth player, Freo with Peel. Same with the Adelaide teams.
The Melbourne teams can bid on players from their region. Perfectly confusing system then.
How about the fact that the only academy selection has been Brandon Jack, now stop the press the inequalities of Brandon Jack's 20 odd games! You realise that without these academies these good players are playing NRL (and other sports). It is a good thing these players will be playing AFL. I have no issue stopping the academies IF the AFL pay for it entirely.
I'm hoping that is West Coast fiddling with the draft... though i don't have that much faith in them to be that creative
Jack Darling?
Uh, they did have better zones. St Kilda lost a massive chunk of their recruiting zones when the country zones were created and the boundaries for some city areas were re-done. I'm interested to see any evidence that the four clubs who won flags during that period invested significantly more resources into thei areas.You mean like recruiting zones? Because some clubs will put zero resources into their zones and complain the bigger clubs have unfair advantage because they have better areas. It's why St Kilda cries they were so bad in the 1980's because the Hawks, Blues, Bombers had "better" zones. The draft was supposed to eliminate this unfairness. Oh, the irony!!
I noticed in the bidding process with Harris Andrews (Brisbane Academy), North big it's round two selection which Brisbane matched with it's fourth round selection. What happened to either clubs third round picks? North would have bid their third round pick if that's all it took to get him, whilst Brisbane would have had to match it with their third round bid if North bid their second?