First 22 in 2023

[Nuggo]

Port will probably play S Lycett and J Finlayson. Does this increase the chances of Fort, or to a lessor extent, Fullarton playing round 1. It is still one of the question marks for me - forward/ruck position.

 

[mattsmob]

Port will probably play S Lycett and J Finlayson. Does this increase the chances of Fort, or to a lessor extent, Fullarton playing round 1. It is still one of the question marks for me - forward/ruck position.

If Daniher is fit enough and comfortable playing small minutes as the second ruck I’d be happy with that. I actually think he’s been quite a good point of difference in there over the last couple seasons.

 

[Nathan Barley]

With the tactical sub I wouldn’t mind playing Fort and he can relieve minutes in the ruck or forward

 

[Nunez]

Port will probably play S Lycett and J Finlayson. Does this increase the chances of Fort, or to a lessor extent, Fullarton playing round 1. It is still one of the question marks for me - forward/ruck position.

Finlayson is trash - would feel comfortable with Joe and Adams/Payne taking forward/Def 50 stoppages and Oscar on the ball.

 

[Section 5]

With the tactical sub I wouldn’t mind playing Fort and he can relieve minutes in the ruck or forward

Just for clarification
Are you saying Fort plays alongside Oscar in the starting team
Then if that works and we are winning they both stay on.

However, what say they are both playing well but we are losing due to a weakness somewhere else
Also, if Fort plays in the best 22 which forward misses out

 

[Nathan Barley]

Just for clarification
Are you saying Fort plays alongside Oscar in the starting team
Then if that works and we are winning they both stay on.

However, what say they are both playing well but we are losing due to a weakness somewhere else
Also, if Fort plays in the best 22 which forward misses out

Starting 22. No forward misses out

 

[Section 5]

Starting 22. No forward misses out

Thanks for clarifying but if no forward misses out who is Ford likely to replace in your side
Someone has to miss if Fort plays
I know it is early for putting up best 23 but i struggle to find a spot for both Fort & Oscar without looking a bit too tall and slowish
Picking best 23 this year is hard assuming all players are available. Although Adams is looking doubtful

 

[Nathan Barley]

Thanks for clarifying but if no forward misses out who is Ford likely to replace in your side
Someone has to miss if Fort plays
I know it is early for putting up best 23 but i struggle to find a spot for both Fort & Oscar without looking a bit too tall and slowish
Picking best 23 this year is hard assuming all players are available. Although Adams is looking doubtful

Gardiner Andrews Starcevich
Rich Payne/Adams Coleman
Bailey Neale JBerry
Rayner Hipwood McCarthy
Cameron Daniher Gunston
McInerney Dunkley McCluggage
Fort, Ashcroft, Robertson, Wilmot/McKenna
Sub: Zorko

 

[Section 5]

Gardiner Andrews Starcevich
Rich Payne/Adams Coleman
Bailey Neale JBerry
Rayner Hipwood McCarthy
Cameron Daniher Gunston
McInerney Dunkley McCluggage
Fort, Ashcroft, Robertson, Wilmot/McKenna
Sub: Zorko

We are very close to the same players. I am leaving Adams (health issues) out of any team for the time being so have Payne

With McKenna coming to the club. i have him over Wilmot & others for now

My sub is any player knocking the door down to get a game. Should be quite a few to choose from week to week. Not trying to chicken out on naming a player but any type of player or position is fine with me. Might change my mind when the actual rule is explained properly

I have Zorko playing instead of being the sub, and Fort in the VFL. Which in reality is the only difference in both our early teams

 

[Sproj]

This isn’t a comment on right or wrong just a statement of fact, Zorko will be best 22, most likely starting, the club isn’t going to have him be the medical sub.

 

[martinson]

Everyone seems to have given up on Ah Chee. He wasn't doing much wrong till he got knocked out and still has improvement in him . We're now in a position of having around 6 or 7 players who will struggle to get a game but would be regulars at most clubs. So our depth is greatly improved. It's the 5 or 6 who are good players that need to elevate themselves to consistently great players that will determine whether we can take the next step.

 

[KissKiss]

Everyone seems to have given up on Ah Chee. He wasn't doing much wrong till he got knocked out and still has improvement in him . We're now in a position of having around 6 or 7 players who will struggle to get a game but would be regulars at most clubs. So our depth is greatly improved. It's the 5 or 6 who are good players that need to elevate themselves to consistently great players that will determine whether we can take the next step.

I will still maintain that he (and Lester) are perfect subs. They can just fill in so many roles across the team no matter what happens

 

[Nathan Barley]

Everyone seems to have given up on Ah Chee. He wasn't doing much wrong till he got knocked out and still has improvement in him . We're now in a position of having around 6 or 7 players who will struggle to get a game but would be regulars at most clubs. So our depth is greatly improved. It's the 5 or 6 who are good players that need to elevate themselves to consistently great players that will determine whether we can take the next step.

I don't think he gets involved enough on the wing or forward to lock in those roles. As a backmen I'd have him as depth behind Starcevich, Rich, Coleman, McKenna and Wilmott

 

[Dalions]

Everyone seems to have given up on Ah Chee. He wasn't doing much wrong till he got knocked out and still has improvement in him . We're now in a position of having around 6 or 7 players who will struggle to get a game but would be regulars at most clubs. So our depth is greatly improved. It's the 5 or 6 who are good players that need to elevate themselves to consistently great players that will determine whether we can take the next step.

I agree with KissKiss he is 23rd man in my books, the perfect sub.

 

[martinson]

I don't think he gets involved enough on the wing or forward to lock in those roles. As a backmen I'd have him as depth behind Starcevich, Rich, Coleman, McKenna and Wilmott

He does things that others in the team can't or won't do that don't register on the stats sheet. On the face of it in the spots he's competing for others do 'more' but having a couple like him in the team helps some of the others.

He's handy to have . I've been waiting for him to take the next step because he has a lot of natural skills and versatility but somehow can't get out of the 'spare ' role that seems to be his fate.

 

[Section 5]

He does things that others in the team can't or won't do that don't register on the stats sheet. On the face of it in the spots he's competing for others do 'more' but having a couple like him in the team helps some of the others.

He's handy to have . I've been waiting for him to take the next step because he has a lot of natural skills and versatility but somehow can't get out of the 'spare ' role that seems to be his fate.

Callum is versatile as you say and that might now be an issue for him being best 22 in 2023 in an improved side
I am sure he is given a job to do each week and he does that fairly well.
But he still needs to get hold of the ball more often to cement a spot next year
There was almost always a spot for him somewhere because of the younger players not quite ready to take certain positions on a regular basis
Also, injuries and suspensions had a bearing so he could fill a role somewhere
After 3 years and 60 games being a Lion, i believe the younger players are ready to step up now. Plus, more new experienced players have come to the club.

Next season is his 8th in the AFL, and he will be 25 years old for all of next year.
He is in his prime years as an AFL player but i just don't get the impression he is going to have a breakout year anytime soon
If Callum plays i only expect more of the same which is okay.
That being around 12 disposals 3 marks 3 tackles as he has consistently produced those figures year on year for 7 years now

 

[Section 5]

Today's AFL article link. Side below named in the article

Loaded-up Lions hit new off-season heights. Now, about that flag...

Brisbane has had arguably the best off-season of a top-four contender in modern history. Will it translate into silverware?

www.afl.com.au

I would have
Payne for Adams (until we actually see him play a game)
Robinson for Answerth
McKenna for Ah Chee
Lyons ?? see how he is travelling come round 1
A good position for the club to be in regarding our player talent pool
................

Brisbane's best 22 for round one, 2023​

B: Darcy Gardiner, Harris Andrews, Brandon Starcevich
HB: Daniel Rich, Marcus Adams, Keidean Coleman
C: Noah Answerth, Josh Dunkley, Will Ashcroft
HF: Cam Rayner, Eric Hipwood, Dayne Zorko
FF: Jack Gunston, Joe Daniher, Charlie Cameron
Foll: Oscar McInerney, Lachie Neale, Hugh McCluggage
Int: Cal Ah Chee, Jarrod Berry, Zac Bailey, Linc McCarthy

The unlucky players who could easily force their way in include Lyons, Darcy Wilmot, Deven Robertson, McKenna, Jaxon Prior and Kai Lohmann.

 

[Tom14]

Today's AFL article link

Loaded-up Lions hit new off-season heights. Now, about that flag...

Brisbane has had arguably the best off-season of a top-four contender in modern history. Will it translate into silverware?

www.afl.com.au

I would have
Payne for Adams (until we actually see him play a game)
Robinson for Answerth
McKenna for Ah Chee
Lyons ?? see how he is travelling come round 1
A good position for the club to be in regarding our player talent pool
................

Brisbane's best 22 for round one, 2023​

B: Darcy Gardiner, Harris Andrews, Brandon Starcevich
HB: Daniel Rich, Marcus Adams, Keidean Coleman
C: Noah Answerth, Josh Dunkley, Will Ashcroft
HF: Cam Rayner, Eric Hipwood, Dayne Zorko
FF: Jack Gunston, Joe Daniher, Charlie Cameron
Foll: Oscar McInerney, Lachie Neale, Hugh McCluggage
Int: Cal Ah Chee, Jarrod Berry, Zac Bailey, Linc McCarthy

The unlucky players who could easily force their way in include Lyons, Darcy Wilmot, Deven Robertson, McKenna, Jaxon Prior and Kai Lohmann.

Its a good article from Fish, but I do think that Noah is the easiest person to have missing out on a regular spot in the team.

 

[Mighty Lions]

I’m beginning to think some of us might have been looking at it wrong and it isn’t Gardiner at risk but actually Adams due to injury. The fact he hasn’t really been since he went down with concussion has massive red flags waving about whether he might even play in ‘23.

Also, you’d have to think that if Rich has another few games like the back end of this year, he might find himself out of the team.

So far Rich has had an un-interupted pre-season. A fit and firing Rich would be an automatic selection in any side in the competition. Gardner is the same.

 

[twhowler]

Its a good article from Fish, but I do think that Noah is the easiest person to have missing out on a regular spot in the team.

I just cannot see him playing anything other than lockdown defender. His disposal is not great and we have options on the wing or are much better fits. Love Noah at his bet but I don't think he is the calibre of player you just find a spot for no matter what. I think his best chance is replacing Rich as he is phased out. If our other small backs include Starcevich (mix of defence and attack with slight emphasis on defence) Wilmot (attacking) Coleman (with some fitness hopefully a good mix of attack and defence as i love how he goes back to fill a hole) and I would argue the fourth player should be a real lockdown type, and Answerth can do that. Alternatively Starce goes full lockdown and McKenna is the fourth. Or Ah Chee replaces Answerth.

 

[POBT]

It is probably a case of "expect the worst but hope for the best" among fans but I think we should be putting Adams in the "best 22" unless we get told he's not going to be right. He's clearly in our best side and it's not like he has an ACL or something which will rule him out. Our first game is months away - plenty of time for him to come good.

 

[Tom14]

How does he cement a spot when he is automatically dropped as soon as Gardiner, Adams or Andrews is available?

He can be better than either of Gardiner or Adams. I've been very critical of him and I think some have more faith than his form has warranted so far, but he had a good run of form towards the end of the season so hopefully he cracks on with it.

 

[Mighty Lions]

It is probably a case of "expect the worst but hope for the best" among fans but I think we should be putting Adams in the "best 22" unless we get told he's not going to be right. He's clearly in our best side and it's not like he has an ACL or something which will rule him out. Our first game is months away - plenty of time for him to come good.

He is still not 100% and his pre-season is going to be interrupted (already is) at this stage so him starting isn't likely. (in my opinion)

 

[The Flying Belgian]

He is still not 100% and his pre-season is going to be interrupted (already is) at this stage so him starting isn't likely. (in my opinion)

Is this thread the Round 1 team, or our best team for the year?

 

[On the quiet]

I wonder if Whiting has been to any training sessions or spoke to anyone of note from the club as it would appear unfortunately for Adams he is still suffering from his concussion. Unless his symptoms alleviate very early in the new year, he won't be playing in round 1, or possibly the year. So for that reason I have Gardiner in for the first few rounds, but if Marcus can come good, have him replacing Gardiner at some stage in 2023. Not that stats: are all that useful in isolation, but Adams and a developing Payne IMO are arguably ahead of Darcy's form re the past couple of years.

If Rich has an ordinary first few games and McKenna is fit and playing well in the trials and the 2's, then for me Wilmot across the halfback line with Payne and Coleman and McKenna onto the bench.

First four rounds are challenging and then it becomes a fair bit easier (based on 2022). With our strong list, I don't think we should just allow some seasoned players to find form against weaker opposition. Players like Lyons (if fit), Answerth, Prior, Fort, Ah Chee, and possibly Lohmann and Fullarton certainly deserve some serious consideration. What a good position for the club, with this list and the 2023 draw GF min: is my expectation.

2023 Rounds 1 & 2 best 22.

B: Gardiner, Andrews, Starcevich
HB: Rich, Payne, Coleman
C: Robertson, Josh Dunkley, McCluggage
HF: Rayner, Hipwood, Zorko
FF: Gunston, Daniher, Cameron
Foll: McInerney, Neale, Berry
Int: Wilmot, Ashcroft, Bailey, McCarthy