Forward Set up (Without Hendo)

[Dramoth]

Why would we do that? We have plenty of midfield guys who need games, and Waite is so dangerous as a forward for us. When Henderson returns, we'd be better served to move Waite back to FF to form the Twin Towers again with Henderson.

Thats only going to last until Levi gets going next year... but we might see Waite hanging around on the wing or HFF causing a nuisance of himself

 

[Big Kahuna Boot]

..simple.. ..Waite pushes out to CHF, FF is the resting ruck.. ..3 runners on the bench..

 

[IheartCarrots]

Waite is a better CHF than a FF. The guy likes space to run off and fly at the ball. FF is a bit enclosed (body on body) for his style.

Think he has played FF because he was coming off an injury and they wanted to give him a chance to fully recover. That and to give Hendo a shot at CHF to learn the role in 2010.

With Hendo out, Waite to CHF, and he potenitally will stay there all season if he does ok-good. Will be interesting!

The problem is, he does run off into space - He gets far up the wings into the backline and due to our quick ball movement can't get back in time!

 

[TNBT]

I know that Waite is probably more suited to CHF than FF. He played FF last season because he was coming off an injury, and to give Henderson time at CHF, as has been said. However, I still can't see him being the long-term CHF in 2011. He and Henderson will no doubt be the two key forwards in 2011, and I think he ends up at FF by default. Henderson is a natural CHF who could play FF in a pinch, but he would be really out of position.

Waite also is probably more of a CHF than a FF as well, but I think with his versatility, he is more able to handle playing at FF than Henderson. I also think that while he may be better as a CHF where he can use his speed and so on, I think he can utilize his gifts at FF as well. He's athletic and has good speed, so he should be able to get away from his man on a lead from the goal-square, and be able to out-jump his opponent. Add to that the fact that he is getting older and while that means his athleticism will probably start to decline, it also means that he should get bigger and stronger, which I think will also help him at FF.

So as I said, I see Waite playing mainly at FF and Henderson at CHF in 2011 when both are fit. However, when a guy like Casboult or Mitchell is good to go as a full-time FF in a year or two, then I will be the first to admit that Waite can be used to great affect elsewhere. Where that may be is up for debate, but I don't like the idea of playing him on the wing, as some people have suggested. CAN he do it? Sure. He has done it before too. However, as I said, as he gets older his speed and athleticism will start to decline, making him less useful there. I would rather see him play as a third tall in the forward line, or floating around the back line helping our other talls cut off opposition kicks.

 

[Salt Lake Cities]

Why would we do that? We have plenty of midfield guys who need games, and Waite is so dangerous as a forward for us. When Henderson returns, we'd be better served to move Waite back to FF to form the Twin Towers again with Henderson.

Sorry to wind you up a bit TNBT was just a thought. Have always had this thing for Jarrad playing a Kouta type role once we had enough KPP to cover it.

Not for a second do i think the Waite/Hendo combo doesn't work, just that if an opportunity presents whereby someone plays the current Waite role close to his capabilities, well like i said just bit partial to an idea i've had for a while

 

[JuddFevGoal]

Give T-Bird a run in the forward line. He's always been quality when he's had to go there on the very rare occasion.

 

[Jeremias]

Give T-Bird a run in the forward line. He's always been quality when he's had to go there on the very rare occasion.

Please show me when Thornton was quality up forward.

I must have missed it.

Thornton isn't a forward's arseh*le.

 

[blue healer]

aaah just when things start going great this happens, bloody hell we are cursed with injuries.

Any howCasboult for mine but Bower to CHF if they are looking for more run. Bower could be a star forward if he has the nouse to play as a forward.

Has this been confirmed? Is it just rumor?

Cannot agree with Bower into the forward line under any circumstance. Our backline was our achilles heel last year and needs to be bolstered not weakened.

With the 3 amigos we have just about the best crumbing threesome in the league, we need them at the bottom of every pack that forms and not being marked by players who are 6 inches taller which seems to have happened often with Betts last year.

Therefore enter Hampson with the size and athleticism to bring it to ground at worst. I say, if Hendo's out, give the man a go.

I also think we can play the 3 rucks if we use one as resting FF even when Hendo is back. We started last season with Hendo, Waite and Setanta and it worked ok for a while til Setanta ran out of form. If we constantly have 3 talls the opposition will find it hard to find a tall to outmark Betts.

May not work but might be worth a go to make life a little easier for the smalls.

Any thoughts on giving Setanta a bit of a crack in the backline? I thought he went ok when put there early, given that he had stuff all understanding of the game then. At least not afraid to make his presence felt.

 

[blue healer]

Please show me when Thornton was quality up forward.

I must have missed it.

Thornton isn't a forward's arseh*le.

Agree, if Thornton is to force his way back in it has to be the position he is used to. Too old and set to learn new tricks

 

[Shambolic]

Please show me when Thornton was quality up forward.

I must have missed it.

Thornton isn't a forward's arseh*le.

Agree. Although he did double his goal kicking count last year


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[Mister Carlton]

Club expects Hendo to be right for Rd 1. Nab cup will include Setanta, Thornton, White, Casboult and Hampson all playing as permanent forwards at different points. They view white as a lead up forward, rather than a ff

I agree with that. Your boy Collins looks great!

 

[Weiterbot23]

Club expects Hendo to be right for Rd 1. Nab cup will include Setanta, Thornton, White, Casboult and Hampson all playing as permanent forwards at different points. They view white as a lead up forward, rather than a ff

Thats good news!

Atleast the MC can refer to this thread if he ever does go down.

 

[ScarfacePacino]

LEEEVVVIII!!!

As stated in a previous thread, the player I was most excited about of all players at training before Xmas was Levi.

He has put on some serious size, has dropped weight and is so hard to beat in marking contests.

The Setanta experiment has gone on for too long (7 years) and I still dont think it is going to work out. Lets test out big Levi in the NAB Cup and see how he fares.

I would give him a crack also or try Mark Austin or Bret Thornton as both need a break out season or recapture their form.

 

[TNBT]

Sorry to wind you up a bit TNBT was just a thought. Have always had this thing for Jarrad playing a Kouta type role once we had enough KPP to cover it.

Not for a second do i think the Waite/Hendo combo doesn't work, just that if an opportunity presents whereby someone plays the current Waite role close to his capabilities, well like i said just bit partial to an idea i've had for a while

No worries mate, didn't mean to sound pissed off or anything. I think that Waite could have played that Kouta type role that you mentioned, but as he gets further into his career he will get stronger/bigger, slower, and his athleticism will start to decline. With that in mind I wouldn't have a problem with throwing him into the midfield at times, but from what I have seen, I think he's starting to look more and more like a tall forward or back rather than an athletic running player on a wing or something like that.

 

[HBF]

Club expects Hendo to be right for Rd 1. Nab cup will include Setanta, Thornton, White, Casboult and Hampson all playing as permanent forwards at different points. They view white as a lead up forward, rather than a ff

Thanks BiB. Appreciate the feedback.
I'm sure we're all crossing our fingers and toes so he gets up for round 1.

 

[Azul]

houlihan Waite yarran
Betts Watson Garlett

MW is a couple of years away from starring at chb. But as a FF he'd cause some headaches with his size and booming kick. Strong parallels with teenage Lance.
Prefer this than giving thorton. Casboult setanta or hampson a go - none are in our best 22 and MW is a 15 yr player.

 

[TNBT]

houlihan Waite yarran
Betts Watson Garlett

MW is a couple of years away from starring at chb. But as a FF he'd cause some headaches with his size and booming kick. Strong parallels with teenage Lance.
Prefer this than giving thorton. Casboult setanta or hampson a go - none are in our best 22 and MW is a 15 yr player.

Seriously???

Watson is a backman every single day of the week. You say put him in the forward line because he's big and strong? What do you think Casboult and Hampson are? As for his booming kick, how neccessary is that when he likely wouldn't get further than 30m from the goal?

Is he a 15 year player, as you said? We all hope so. Lets just let him play the position he was born and drafted to play, rather than half turning him into a forward and then saying "now go back and be a CHB again". He would be much better off developing in the back-line at VFL level than being thrown out of position as a teenager at AFL level.

What is it with people trying to turn all our backs into forwards? Our back-line has been weak enough lately, which is why we're trying to ADD to it, not take depth away.

 

[Sin City]

Glad Henderson is expected to be ok for round one. Like Kreuzer he'll probably have one hell of an upper body by the time he comes back.

 

[Silvagnis]

Lachlan "Leadside" Henderson will be fine as long as he doesn't stop running.