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2023 AFL Trade Period and the AFL Draft

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Current draft picks: done
2024 draft picks: 1st, 2nd, 4th (Fre), 4th (GC), 4th (WBU)

List changes:
Out: 7 - Ed Curnow (Ret), Plowman (Ret), O'Brien (Del), Philp (Del), Honey (Del), Fisher (Trade), Dow (Trade)
In: 6 - Rob Monahan (IIR-CatB), Elijah Hollands (Trade), Orazio Fantasia (DFA), Ashton Moir (pick 29), Billy Wilson (pick 34), Matthew Carroll (Rookie pick 15)
Uncontracted: 0.
Retained SSP Players: 2 - Cincotta, O'Keeffe
Upgraded Rookie: 1 - Cottrell

List status:
Senior - 36 (36-38)
Rookie - 6 (0-6)
Cat-B Rookie - 2 (0-2)
Total - 44 (44)

Free spots - 0

Note - Matt Duffy (Ireland) not included - assumption is he was not listed after injuring knee.

List Lodgment Dates: OPEN
Tue 31-Oct: List Lodgment 1 COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: Father/Son, NGA, Northern Academy bidding nominations close COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: International Scholarship Listed players inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Thu 9-Nov: List Lodgment 2 COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Father/Son Primary List lodgment close COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Players not registered for 3 years inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: International Players inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Wed 22-Nov: List Lodgment 3 (post National draft) COMPLETE
Thu 23-Nov: FINAL List Lodgment (post PSD & Rookie drafts) PENDING

The Draft:
Mon 20-Nov
Time 7pm: National Draft Round One COMPLETE
Tue 21-Nov
5.45pm - 6.30pm: Selection Trade period COMPLETE
7pm: National Draft Round Two to completion COMPLETE
Following completion of draft: Rookie Promotion to Primary List COMPLETE
Following completion of draft: Delisted Free Agency Period (3) COMPLETE
Wed 22-Nov
Northern Academy and NGA Academy eligible Pre-Selected Rookie and Father-Son Pre-Selected Rookie player nominations
3pm: AFL Pre-season Draft COMPLETE
3.20pm: AFL Rookie Draft COMPLETE

Supplementary Selection Period (SSP): PENDING
Mon 27-Nov 9am: SSP starts (players must have been on AFL list previously OR nominated for 2023 draft)
Mon 19-Feb 5pm: SSP ends


Draft Nominations: CLOSED
Tue 10-Oct 9am: AFL Draft Nominations open COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: Out-of-contract listed AFL player draft nomination close (national or pre-season draft) COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov 3pm: AFL Draft Nominations close COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Delisted AFL player draft nomination close (national or pre-season draft) COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Non-retained rookie list player draft nomination close COMPLETE

Player and Selection Trades: CLOSED
Mon 9-Oct 9am: AFL Trade Period Commences – Players & Selections COMPLETE
Wed 18-Oct 7.30pm: AFL Trade Period Closes – Players & Selections COMPLETE
Mon 23-Oct 9am: AFL Trade Period Opens – Selections Only COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 5pm: AFL Trade Period Closes –Selections Only COMPLETE

Delisted Free Agency Periods: CLOSED
Wed 01-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences COMPLETE
Wed 08-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes COMPLETE
(see also period 3 under "The Draft" section below)

Restricted/Unrestricted Free Agency Trades: CLOSED
Fri 6-Oct 9am: AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period Commences COMPLETE
Fri 13-Oct 5pm: Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period COMPLETE
Mon 16-Oct 5pm: AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends COMPLETE

Draft Combines: CLOSED
Fri 6-Oct to Sun 8-Oct: National Draft Combine COMPLETE
Sun 8-Oct: Victorian State Combine COMPLETE
Sat 14-Oct: SA/NT State Combine COMPLETE
Sun 15-Oct: WA State Combine COMPLETE

6-Oct
1. James Jordon to Sydney as UFA. Melbourne receive end of 2nd round pick as compensation (40)
2. Matt Flynn to WCE as UFA. GWS receive end of 2nd round pick as compensation (41)
8-Oct
3. Joel Hamling to Sydney as UFA. Fremantle do not receive any compensation.
9-Oct
4. Tom Doedee to Brisbane as RFA. Adelaide receive end of 1st round compensation (pick 20)
5. Pick Swap: GCS trade picks 5, 48, 53 and future 3rd (GC) to WBU in return for picks 11, 18 and future 1st rd (WBU)
6. Pick Swap: Freo trade pick 25 and future 2nd rd to Port for future 1st (Port)
7. Todd Goldstein to Essendon as UFA. No compensation for North Melbourne.
10-Oct
8. Ben McKay to Essendon as RFA. North Melbourne receive 1st round pick as compensation (3)
9. James Harmes to Western Bulldogs. Melbourne receive a future 3rd rd pick (WBU)
11-Oct
10. Dylan Stephens to North Melbourne with pick 26. Sydney receive a future end of first round (pick 19) and this year's pick 45.
11. Pick Swap: Melbourne receives pick 11. Gold Coast get 14, 28, 36 in return.
12. Chris Burgess and pick 14 to Adelaide. Gold Coast get picks 24 and 27.
13. Pick Swap: North Melbourne receive pick 18. Gold Coast gets future end of first round (pick 20) comp pick.
14. Brodie Grundy to Sydney. Melbourne receive pick 47 and future second round pick (Syd)
15. Taylor Adams to Sydney. Collingwood receive pick 34.
16. Zac Fisher to North Melbourne with pick 17. CARLTON receive picks 22 and 26.
13-Oct
17. Jade Gresham to Essendon as RFA. St Kilda receive end of 1st round compensation (pick 21)
18. Toby Pink to North Melbourne - delisted free agent.
19. Tom Fullarton to Melbourne. Brisbane receive pick 47 in return.
14-Oct
20. Tyler Brockman to West Coast Eagles. Hawthorn receive picks 44 and 63 in return.
16-Oct
21. Bigoa Nyuon to North Melbourne. Richmond receive pick 65.
22. Lachie Schultz to Collingwood. Fremantle receive pick 34 and a future first round pick (Col) in return.
23. Liam Henry and future round four (Fre) pick to St Kilda. Fremantle receive a future 2nd (StK) and future 4th (StK).
17-Oct
24. Shane McAdam to Melbourne. Adelaide receive a future second round pick (Mel) in return.
25. Multi-trade
.... CARLTON: Give - Paddy Dow, future 3rd (Car), future 4th (Car). Receive - future 3rd (Ess), future 4th (Fre), future 4th (WBU)
.... Essendon: Give - 52, future 3rd (Ess). Receive - pick 35, future 4th (Car)
.... St Kilda: Give - Nick Coffield, picks 35, 56, future 4th (Fre). Receive - Paddy Dow, pick 40, future 3rd (Car)
.... Western Bulldogs: Give - pick 40, future 4th (WBU). Receive - Nick Coffield, picks 52, 56
18-Oct
26. Ivan Soldo to Port Adelaide with pick 50. Richmond receive picks 41, 49 a future 2nd round (Fre) and future 4th round (PA).
27. Jack Ginnivan pick 39, future 2nd (Col) and future 4th (Col) to Hawthorn. Collingwood receive pick 33, future 2nd (Haw), future 3rd (Haw)
28. Jordan Sweet to Port Adelaide. Western Bulldogs receive pick 50 in return.
29. Esava Ratugolea to Port Adelaide. Geelong receive picks 25, 76 and 94.
30. Elijah Hollands to CARLTON with pick 28 and future 4th (GC). Gold Coast receive pick 26 and future 3rd (Ess).
31. Jacob Koschitzke to Richmond. Hawthorn receive pick 49.
32. Jack Billings to Melbourne. St Kilda receive a future 3rd round pick (Mel).
33. Multi-trade
.... Brisbane: Give - Jack Gunston, picks 47, 61, future 2nd round (Bri). Receive - Ryan, 39, 54, future 4th (Haw).
.... Hawthorn: Give - Brandon Ryan, picks 39, 54, future 4th round (Haw). Receive - Gunston, 47, 61, future 2nd (Bri).
34. Mabior Chol to Hawthorn with pick 62. Gold Coast receive a future 2nd round pick (Bri).
35. Massimo D'Ambrosio to Hawthorn. Essendon receive pick 61, future 4th round (Col)
36. Multi-trade
.... Essendon: Give - Brandon Zerk-Thatcher, pick 73, future 4th round (Ess), future 4th round (Car). Receive - Xavier Duursma
.... Port Adelaide: Give - Xavier Duursma. Receive - Brandon Zerk-Thatcher, 73, future 4th round (Ess), future 4th round (Car)





Nominated:
Elliott Himmelberg to GWS (Trade) - staying at GWS

Mooted:
Buku Khamis - staying at Dogs
Dylan Shiel
Clayton Oliver - Ade/Gee - staying at Melbourne
Ollie Wines
Dan McKenzie - Suns?
Scott Lycett
Tom Clurey
James Borlase
Brynn Teakle
Josh Sinn
Orazio Fantasia - GWS?
Sam Hayes
Harrison Petty


Potential DFA and Retiree moves:
TBA

Missed Out on trades:
TBA




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Juddernaut08 said:
Getting a Ben McKay on a decent sized contract is a great get if he stays healthy. He'd only clog their list if he can't stay on the park.

Quality KPPs get paid well and usually have a high cost. The fact that they got him without using a draft pick is a big win.

Compare this to our acquisition of Williams for example.
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IMO Williams was way more accomplished when we got him than McKay currently is. I don’t watch North very often and he’s been out the last few times we have played North, but of what I’ve seen of him I’m not sure there’s any way of justifying the contract Essendon just offered him.

Indeed the only thing that’s more absurd than the contract they offered is the compensation North are receiving for him. If I were a list manager I wouldn’t offer him anymore than $500k for 3-4 seasons, and if I had to trade him I’d only be willing to give up a pick in the vicinity of 20-25 for him.

Anyway as I said I’m glad that he’s not our problem.
 

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We need to bring in some talent. Pies impoved their list after losing the prelim last year and went and got a flag. I can't see how we can just say we are happy with natural improvement. Collingwood getting Schultz is huge.

We should probably go after Ginnivan he could be a very good player.

Edit williams coming back will be huge for us hopefully
 
52Goals4inGranny said:
Edit williams coming back will be huge for us hopefully
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Hopefully is correct.

So far we’ve gotten 23 games in 3 seasons out of him. Has looked unfit for the majority of his playing time and now has an ACL injury under his belt.

Will most likely fight it out with Cincotta for the 7th defender spot.
 
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Zlatan said:
Hopefully is correct.

So far we’ve gotten 23 games in 3 seasons out of him. Has looked unfit for the majority of his playing time and now has an ACL injury under his belt.

Will most likely fight it out with Cincotta for the 7th defender spot.
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I'm hoping he comes back super fit and plays rotations through the half forward line / midfield
 

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BrisbaneCFC said:
So two of 40 odd players on the list? Cool. Good skills and speed not needed. My bad.
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He plays the same spot as them. Add Cowan, Docherty , Newman, and Williams to Saad and Boyd and we have half back flank well covered.

Doesn't make sense to me to use draft capital and salary cap space to get another one.

Austin may see it differently.
 
Aphrodite said:
Not my point at all and respectfully disagree.

Norf have just received a plethora of draft concessions.
3 x 1st Rnd picks over the next 2 years and 2 additional rookie spots for next year.

Now they will receive pick 3 compo for McKay who has only played 71 games since 2017.

So wrong!



Oh BTW when we were a struggling down the bottom, what did we get - access to ******* State Leagues.
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& didn’t Norf play finals in 2018? Pox list management being rewarded by the 🤡’s at AFL HQ


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BigFrizz36 said:
He plays the same spot as them. Add Cowan, Docherty , Newman, and Williams to Saad and Boyd and we have half back flank well covered.

Doesn't make sense to me to use draft capital and salary cap space to get another one.

Austin may see it differently.
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This is right in theory but our back flankers are all a little different. Dochs a mid masquerading as a defender, Newman and Boyd aren’t particularly quick in terms of leg speed so that leaves Williams and Saad as our ball carrying back flankers and they aren’t exactly spring chickens. I wouldn’t mind adding one more to the mix. I don’t think it’s something that’s in need of urgent attention but having one under those two in particular would be very beneficial to their development.
 
thebluenewdeal said:
This is right in theory but our back flankers are all a little different. Dochs a mid masquerading as a defender, Newman and Boyd aren’t particularly quick in terms of leg speed so that leaves Williams and Saad as our ball carrying back flankers and they aren’t exactly spring chickens. I wouldn’t mind adding one more to the mix. I don’t think it’s something that’s in need of urgent attention but having one under those two in particular would be very beneficial to their development.
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I forgot Cincotta as well. You could also Marchbank into the mix although he plays a bit taller. We definitely don't have a shortage of half backs and there's a fair bit of quality there.

It's all subjective though. I think that we have other higher priority areas of need. Sadly Sinn is also young enough (2 years in the system only) that Port would like a reasonable return on their pick 12.

Was a mad carlton supporter though.
 
YeoShuey said:
We should look to bolster our midfield soon. No idea why but I can really see Sheezel playing for us one day. Won’t be this year but can see it happening eventually.
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Plenty on the Suns board think that E. Hollands is a genuine on baller who can't get a look in there. O. Hollands could graduate there as well.

Ben Campo looks like a genuine inside/outside mid and may be real quality. Lucas Campo looks more outside but could still be anything.

The beauty of the father sons is that allows us to plan our drafting well in advance.
 
BigFrizz36 said:
Plenty on the Suns board think that E. Hollands is a genuine on baller who can't get a look in there. O. Hollands could graduate there as well.

Ben Campo looks like a genuine inside/outside mid and may be real quality. Lucas Campo looks more outside but could still be anything.

The beauty of the father sons is that allows us to plan our drafting well in advance.
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Yeap, even if it's only the Campo boys, we don't need more mids, we need spark on the fringes, a dynamic 3rd/medium forward and a young KPD
 
BigFrizz36 said:
I forgot Cincotta as well. You could also Marchbank into the mix although he plays a bit taller. We definitely don't have a shortage of half backs and there's a fair bit of quality there.

It's all subjective though. I think that we have other higher priority areas of need. Sadly Sinn is also young enough (2 years in the system only) that Port would like a reasonable return on their pick 12.

Was a mad carlton supporter though.
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Yep, exactly. There’s definitely other higher priority areas of need. Need to find a genuine forward half threat and ideally another mid to keep everyone honest, imo.
 
Arr0w said:
Yeap, even if it's only the Campo boys, we don't need more mids, we need spark on the fringes, a dynamic 3rd/medium forward and a young KPD
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Wouldn't mind us trialling TDK & H as our key fwds with Charlie as the dynamic 3rd/medium. He could be a nightmare to match up in that role. Just needs TDK to take that extra step with his forward work. Would still look to recruit a young player with those attributes though.
 
Start of 2025 core mid group if goes to plan:
Walsh (24), Cerra (25), Kennedy (27), B. Camporeale (18), L. Camporeale (18), O. Hollands (21), E. Hollands (22), Binns (20), De Koning (25)

Cripps (30), Docherty (31), Acres (29), Hewett (29) as the older seasoned brigade.

That looks tasty.
 
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Bletch said:
Wouldn't mind us trialling TDK & H as our key fwds with Charlie as the dynamic 3rd/medium. He could be a nightmare to match up in that role. Just needs TDK to take that extra step with his forward work. Would still look to recruit a young player with those attributes though.
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Tdk #1 ruck
Hawkins stay at home full forward
Harry forward/2nd ruc
Charlie 3rd forward
 
Think we’ll get very little for Dow. Saints have too many other things going on.

What about Dow and 69 for Billings and 55?

Saints and Billings said to be happy to move on from each other, and for cheap. Top 5 pick for Top 5 pick and we get a slight upgrade coz ours is younger? Just spitballing. Never know what Billings could bring in the forward line.
 

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