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2023 AFL Trade Period and the AFL Draft

All About Carlton

Current draft picks: done
2024 draft picks: 1st, 2nd, 4th (Fre), 4th (GC), 4th (WBU)

List changes:
Out: 7 - Ed Curnow (Ret), Plowman (Ret), O'Brien (Del), Philp (Del), Honey (Del), Fisher (Trade), Dow (Trade)
In: 6 - Rob Monahan (IIR-CatB), Elijah Hollands (Trade), Orazio Fantasia (DFA), Ashton Moir (pick 29), Billy Wilson (pick 34), Matthew Carroll (Rookie pick 15)
Uncontracted: 0.
Retained SSP Players: 2 - Cincotta, O'Keeffe
Upgraded Rookie: 1 - Cottrell

List status:
Senior - 36 (36-38)
Rookie - 6 (0-6)
Cat-B Rookie - 2 (0-2)
Total - 44 (44)

Free spots - 0

Note - Matt Duffy (Ireland) not included - assumption is he was not listed after injuring knee.

List Lodgment Dates: OPEN
Tue 31-Oct: List Lodgment 1 COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: Father/Son, NGA, Northern Academy bidding nominations close COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: International Scholarship Listed players inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Thu 9-Nov: List Lodgment 2 COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Father/Son Primary List lodgment close COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Players not registered for 3 years inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: International Players inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Wed 22-Nov: List Lodgment 3 (post National draft) COMPLETE
Thu 23-Nov: FINAL List Lodgment (post PSD & Rookie drafts) PENDING

The Draft:
Mon 20-Nov
Time 7pm: National Draft Round One COMPLETE
Tue 21-Nov
5.45pm - 6.30pm: Selection Trade period COMPLETE
7pm: National Draft Round Two to completion COMPLETE
Following completion of draft: Rookie Promotion to Primary List COMPLETE
Following completion of draft: Delisted Free Agency Period (3) COMPLETE
Wed 22-Nov
Northern Academy and NGA Academy eligible Pre-Selected Rookie and Father-Son Pre-Selected Rookie player nominations
3pm: AFL Pre-season Draft COMPLETE
3.20pm: AFL Rookie Draft COMPLETE

Supplementary Selection Period (SSP): PENDING
Mon 27-Nov 9am: SSP starts (players must have been on AFL list previously OR nominated for 2023 draft)
Mon 19-Feb 5pm: SSP ends


Draft Nominations: CLOSED
Tue 10-Oct 9am: AFL Draft Nominations open COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: Out-of-contract listed AFL player draft nomination close (national or pre-season draft) COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov 3pm: AFL Draft Nominations close COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Delisted AFL player draft nomination close (national or pre-season draft) COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Non-retained rookie list player draft nomination close COMPLETE

Player and Selection Trades: CLOSED
Mon 9-Oct 9am: AFL Trade Period Commences – Players & Selections COMPLETE
Wed 18-Oct 7.30pm: AFL Trade Period Closes – Players & Selections COMPLETE
Mon 23-Oct 9am: AFL Trade Period Opens – Selections Only COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 5pm: AFL Trade Period Closes –Selections Only COMPLETE

Delisted Free Agency Periods: CLOSED
Wed 01-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences COMPLETE
Wed 08-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes COMPLETE
(see also period 3 under "The Draft" section below)

Restricted/Unrestricted Free Agency Trades: CLOSED
Fri 6-Oct 9am: AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period Commences COMPLETE
Fri 13-Oct 5pm: Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period COMPLETE
Mon 16-Oct 5pm: AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends COMPLETE

Draft Combines: CLOSED
Fri 6-Oct to Sun 8-Oct: National Draft Combine COMPLETE
Sun 8-Oct: Victorian State Combine COMPLETE
Sat 14-Oct: SA/NT State Combine COMPLETE
Sun 15-Oct: WA State Combine COMPLETE

6-Oct
1. James Jordon to Sydney as UFA. Melbourne receive end of 2nd round pick as compensation (40)
2. Matt Flynn to WCE as UFA. GWS receive end of 2nd round pick as compensation (41)
8-Oct
3. Joel Hamling to Sydney as UFA. Fremantle do not receive any compensation.
9-Oct
4. Tom Doedee to Brisbane as RFA. Adelaide receive end of 1st round compensation (pick 20)
5. Pick Swap: GCS trade picks 5, 48, 53 and future 3rd (GC) to WBU in return for picks 11, 18 and future 1st rd (WBU)
6. Pick Swap: Freo trade pick 25 and future 2nd rd to Port for future 1st (Port)
7. Todd Goldstein to Essendon as UFA. No compensation for North Melbourne.
10-Oct
8. Ben McKay to Essendon as RFA. North Melbourne receive 1st round pick as compensation (3)
9. James Harmes to Western Bulldogs. Melbourne receive a future 3rd rd pick (WBU)
11-Oct
10. Dylan Stephens to North Melbourne with pick 26. Sydney receive a future end of first round (pick 19) and this year's pick 45.
11. Pick Swap: Melbourne receives pick 11. Gold Coast get 14, 28, 36 in return.
12. Chris Burgess and pick 14 to Adelaide. Gold Coast get picks 24 and 27.
13. Pick Swap: North Melbourne receive pick 18. Gold Coast gets future end of first round (pick 20) comp pick.
14. Brodie Grundy to Sydney. Melbourne receive pick 47 and future second round pick (Syd)
15. Taylor Adams to Sydney. Collingwood receive pick 34.
16. Zac Fisher to North Melbourne with pick 17. CARLTON receive picks 22 and 26.
13-Oct
17. Jade Gresham to Essendon as RFA. St Kilda receive end of 1st round compensation (pick 21)
18. Toby Pink to North Melbourne - delisted free agent.
19. Tom Fullarton to Melbourne. Brisbane receive pick 47 in return.
14-Oct
20. Tyler Brockman to West Coast Eagles. Hawthorn receive picks 44 and 63 in return.
16-Oct
21. Bigoa Nyuon to North Melbourne. Richmond receive pick 65.
22. Lachie Schultz to Collingwood. Fremantle receive pick 34 and a future first round pick (Col) in return.
23. Liam Henry and future round four (Fre) pick to St Kilda. Fremantle receive a future 2nd (StK) and future 4th (StK).
17-Oct
24. Shane McAdam to Melbourne. Adelaide receive a future second round pick (Mel) in return.
25. Multi-trade
.... CARLTON: Give - Paddy Dow, future 3rd (Car), future 4th (Car). Receive - future 3rd (Ess), future 4th (Fre), future 4th (WBU)
.... Essendon: Give - 52, future 3rd (Ess). Receive - pick 35, future 4th (Car)
.... St Kilda: Give - Nick Coffield, picks 35, 56, future 4th (Fre). Receive - Paddy Dow, pick 40, future 3rd (Car)
.... Western Bulldogs: Give - pick 40, future 4th (WBU). Receive - Nick Coffield, picks 52, 56
18-Oct
26. Ivan Soldo to Port Adelaide with pick 50. Richmond receive picks 41, 49 a future 2nd round (Fre) and future 4th round (PA).
27. Jack Ginnivan pick 39, future 2nd (Col) and future 4th (Col) to Hawthorn. Collingwood receive pick 33, future 2nd (Haw), future 3rd (Haw)
28. Jordan Sweet to Port Adelaide. Western Bulldogs receive pick 50 in return.
29. Esava Ratugolea to Port Adelaide. Geelong receive picks 25, 76 and 94.
30. Elijah Hollands to CARLTON with pick 28 and future 4th (GC). Gold Coast receive pick 26 and future 3rd (Ess).
31. Jacob Koschitzke to Richmond. Hawthorn receive pick 49.
32. Jack Billings to Melbourne. St Kilda receive a future 3rd round pick (Mel).
33. Multi-trade
.... Brisbane: Give - Jack Gunston, picks 47, 61, future 2nd round (Bri). Receive - Ryan, 39, 54, future 4th (Haw).
.... Hawthorn: Give - Brandon Ryan, picks 39, 54, future 4th round (Haw). Receive - Gunston, 47, 61, future 2nd (Bri).
34. Mabior Chol to Hawthorn with pick 62. Gold Coast receive a future 2nd round pick (Bri).
35. Massimo D'Ambrosio to Hawthorn. Essendon receive pick 61, future 4th round (Col)
36. Multi-trade
.... Essendon: Give - Brandon Zerk-Thatcher, pick 73, future 4th round (Ess), future 4th round (Car). Receive - Xavier Duursma
.... Port Adelaide: Give - Xavier Duursma. Receive - Brandon Zerk-Thatcher, 73, future 4th round (Ess), future 4th round (Car)





Nominated:
Elliott Himmelberg to GWS (Trade) - staying at GWS

Mooted:
Buku Khamis - staying at Dogs
Dylan Shiel
Clayton Oliver - Ade/Gee - staying at Melbourne
Ollie Wines
Dan McKenzie - Suns?
Scott Lycett
Tom Clurey
James Borlase
Brynn Teakle
Josh Sinn
Orazio Fantasia - GWS?
Sam Hayes
Harrison Petty


Potential DFA and Retiree moves:
TBA

Missed Out on trades:
TBA




Full AFL Trade/Draft Key Dates

Official AFL Trade Hub

Official AFL Trade Tracker

Official AFL Draft Hub

Indicative Draft Order

List Changes by Club
 
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ArseClown said:

Stephen Silvagni vs Carlton: The Paddy Dow stalemate explained

Paddy Dow will get to Carlton if he desires, but there's a twist, reports Tom Morris.
www.sen.com.au www.sen.com.au
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SOS was my favourite player growing up.

If what is in the media is true and he wouldn’t even go into the rooms for Jacks milestone game and is holding such a grudge as to be Dodo-like in trading with us for Dow…. Then he is wiped in my books as a champion of the club.

Seriously, if true - what an absolute w***er.
 
TimeFor17 said:
SOS was my favourite player growing up.

If what is in the media is true and he wouldn’t even go into the rooms for Jacks milestone game and is holding such a grudge as to be Dodo-like in trading with us for Dow…. Then he is wiped in my books as a champion of the club.

Seriously, if true - what an absolute w***er.
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He's a very bitter and petty man by all reports.
 
Bletch said:
2023 AFL Trade Period

All About Carlton

Current draft picks: 16, 65, 73
List changes:
Out: Ed Curnow (Ret), Plowman (Ret), O'Brien (Del), Philp (Del), Honey (Del)
In: Duffy (IIR), Monahan (IIR)
Uncontracted: 1 - Dow.
List status: Senior - 33; Rookie - 7; Cat-B Rookie - 2; Free spots - 2 Senior (and at least one Rookie must be upgraded)

Player and Selection Trades: PENDING
Mon 9-Oct 9am: AFL Trade Period Commences – Players & Selections
Wed 18-Oct 7.30pm: AFL Trade Period Closes – Players & Selections
Mon 23-Oct 9am: AFL Trade Period Opens – Selections Only
Fri 10-Nov 5pm: AFL Trade Period Closes –Selections Only

Restricted/Unrestricted Free Agency Trades: OPEN
Fri 6-Oct 9am: AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period Commences
Fri 13-Oct 9am: Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period
Mon 16-Oct 5pm: AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends

Delisted Free Agency Periods: PENDING
Wed 01-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences
Wed 08-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes
Fri 10-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences
Fri 10-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
(see also period 3 under "The Draft" section below)

Draft Combines: OPEN
Fri 6-Oct to Sun 8-Oct: National Draft Combine
Sun 8-Oct: Victorian State Combine
Sat 14-Oct: SA/NT State Combine
Sun 15-Oct: WA State Combine

Draft Nominations: PENDING
Tue 10-Oct 9am: AFL Draft Nominations open
Mon 13-Nov 3pm: AFL Draft Nominations close

The Draft:
Mon 20-Nov
Time TBA: National Draft Round One
Tue 21-Nov
5.45pm - 6.30pm: Selection Trade period
7pm: National Draft Round Two to completion
Following completion of draft: Rookie Promotion to Primary List
Following completion of draft: Delisted Free Agency Period (3)
Wed 22-Nov
3pm: AFL Pre-season Draft
3.20pm: AFL Rookie Draft

TBA
Time TBA: Final Club list lodgment

6-Oct
1. James Jordon to Sydney as UFA. Melbourne receive end of 2nd round pick as compensation (39)
2. Matt Flynn to WCE as UFA. GWS receive end of 2nd round pick as compensation (40)



Nominated:
Ben McKay to Essendon (FA)
Todd Goldstein to Essendon (FA)
Tyler Brockman to West Coast (Trade)
Liam Henry to St Kilda (Trade)
Elliott Himmelberg to GWS (Trade)
Massimo D’Ambrosio to Hawthorn (Trade)
Jacob Koschitzke to Richmond (Trade)
Brandon Zerk-Thatcher to Port Adel (Trade)
Jordon Sweet to Port Adel (Trade)
Esava Ratugolea to Port Adel (Trade)
Shane McAdam to Melbourne (Trade)
Dylan Stephens to North Melb (Trade)
Chris Burgess to Adelaide
Tom Doedee to Brisbane
Mabior Chol to Hawthorn
Zac Fisher - North Melbourne
Tom Fullarton to Melbourne
Joel Hamling to Sydney (UFA)

Mooted:
Brodie Grundy - Sydney
Jade Gresham - Essendon?
Jack Billings
Paddy Dow - Sydney/StK ?
Ivan Soldo
Buku Khamis - staying at Dogs
Dylan Shiel
Elijah Hollands - Carlton
Clayton Oliver - staying at Melbourne
Ollie Wines
Dan McKenzie
Tyler Brockman - West Coast/Freo
Scott Lycett
Tom Clurey
James Borlase
James Harmes
Brynn Teakle
Xavier Duursma
Josh Sinn
Taylor Adams - Sydney

Potential DFA and Retiree moves:
TBA

Missed Out on trades:
TBA




Full AFL Trade/Draft Key Dates

Official AFL Trade Hub

Official AFL Trade Tracker

Official AFL Draft Hub

Indicative Draft Order

List Changes by Club
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I've futzed around with the formatting of the stickied post. Think it's easier to read using spoiler formatting than the previously used quote formatting.
 
Benaly28 said:
Swans just doing what needs to be done and going about their business.

Grundy/Jordon/Hamling/Adam’s,whilst not huge names just adding depth to their list.


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Adams disgruntled with Collingwood for giving him a hamstring injury.
 
Arr0w said:
Hollands plays as a HF, rotating through the middle, but let's leave that to one side

Ollie Holands, Acres, Cotts rotations on a wing

Cripps, Cerra, Walsh as starting mids

2 of these mids as interchange, 1 misses out, Doc, Hewett, Kennedy

Williams could play through the middle, rotations Cuners, Fog

Dow is depth, he has an offer to stay, it's up to him
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The point of my post was list depth for 2024 and beyond - our 'best 22' is fine but as everyone is well aware, we seldom manage to have a best 22 available (finals this year is possibly the only time its occured in the past 3-5 years - and even then williams wasnt available and a few were heavily injury impacted).

This offseason we are likely to lose/have lost - obrien (depth), dow (depth), fisher (depth), curnow (depth), philp (early draft pick that never made it)

From your list, lets say Kennedy misses out (and is a depth player for 2024) - who are the other mids that we have on the list? - atm that would be Binns and potentially Carroll. The only known target at this stage is E. Hollands (potential but unproven but would be physically developed at least) - Notwithstanding most kids take some time to develop, we also have pick 16 to potentially add another mid (but no 2nd or 3rd round picks).

Real list depth through the midfield is very thin - Yes we could rotate cuningham through but he is unproven/injury prone, Similarly williams - unproven as a mid and coming back from a long term injury. Rotation also carries the risk of disrupting the team if they dont perform to the level and the replacement is results in a significant drop off in another area of the ground.

I'll wait for the trade period to play out but if we lose dow/fisher and dont bring in another mature bodied mid (Duursma, someone else) - if we cant bring a mature bodied mid in, then I'd very much prefer the club either hold Fisher to his contract, or increase their offer to keep down. If not, then my concern is we will be carrying a significant risk of underperforming into the 24/25 season when the inevitable injuries strike (missing top 4, potentially even finals)
 



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Taylor Adams Trade Update

Collingwood has provided an update on Taylor Adams.
www.collingwoodfc.com.au www.collingwoodfc.com.au


Collingwood can confirm Taylor Adams has requested a trade to the Sydney Swans in the upcoming Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period.

Taylor is contracted until the end of 2024 and is a required player and leader.
The Club will discuss the request with Sydney.
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4thchicken said:
The point of my post was list depth for 2024 and beyond - our 'best 22' is fine but as everyone is well aware, we seldom manage to have a best 22 available (finals this year is possibly the only time its occured in the past 3-5 years - and even then williams wasnt available and a few were heavily injury impacted).

This offseason we are likely to lose/have lost - obrien (depth), dow (depth), fisher (depth), curnow (depth), philp (early draft pick that never made it)

From your list, lets say Kennedy misses out (and is a depth player for 2024) - who are the other mids that we have on the list? - atm that would be Binns and potentially Carroll. The only known target at this stage is E. Hollands (potential but unproven but would be physically developed at least) - Notwithstanding most kids take some time to develop, we also have pick 16 to potentially add another mid (but no 2nd or 3rd round picks).

Real list depth through the midfield is very thin - Yes we could rotate cuningham through but he is unproven/injury prone, Similarly williams - unproven as a mid and coming back from a long term injury. Rotation also carries the risk of disrupting the team if they dont perform to the level and the replacement is results in a significant drop off in another area of the ground.

I'll wait for the trade period to play out but if we lose dow/fisher and dont bring in another mature bodied mid (Duursma, someone else) - if we cant bring a mature bodied mid in, then I'd very much prefer the club either hold Fisher to his contract, or increase their offer to keep down. If not, then my concern is we will be carrying a significant risk of underperforming into the 24/25 season when the inevitable injuries strike (missing top 4, potentially even finals)
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Not many, if any side that has quality depth, they are purely role players

You can achieve that with older DFA, or younger types like O Hollands
 
Any list manager worth their job would be offering a fourth rounder/small pick upgrade for Dow as a starting point.
Unfortunately that’s close to his market value.
SOS is no different - it’s a nice taking point but his disappointment at his exit from Carlton won’t have an influence on the ultimate outcome.
 
carlton_99 said:
North offering pick 42 for Fisher. Carlton expected to push for more.
- Cal Twomey + Riley Beveridge AFL app
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www.afl.com.au

Roos' offer for Blue, Swans load up, stars emerge at Combine

Check out all the latest trade news from around the League ahead of the start of the 2023 Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period
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NORTH Melbourne has put pick 42 on the table for Carlton's Zac Fisher as the Roos look to land the versatile Blue.
Fisher last week underwent a medical with North before officially requesting a trade to the Kangaroos from Carlton, where he has two years to run on his deal.

The start of the trade discussions has seen the Roos put forward their third-round pick for the 25-year-old, who has played 107 games for the Blues since being drafted in 2016.
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TimeFor17 said:
SOS was my favourite player growing up.

If what is in the media is true and he wouldn’t even go into the rooms for Jacks milestone game and is holding such a grudge as to be Dodo-like in trading with us for Dow…. Then he is wiped in my books as a champion of the club.

Seriously, if true - what an absolute w***er.
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Sos will always be recognised as a champion of our club as a player but his being a disagreeable and grumpy bugger is nothing new. Just look at two of his best mates...Dodoro and Lyon, birds of a feather and all that.
 
TimeFor17 said:
SOS was my favourite player growing up.

If what is in the media is true and he wouldn’t even go into the rooms for Jacks milestone game and is holding such a grudge as to be Dodo-like in trading with us for Dow…. Then he is wiped in my books as a champion of the club.

Seriously, if true - what an absolute w***er.
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Holding a grudge is like consuming poison and expecting the other person to get sick... Good luck to him!
 
4thchicken said:
The point of my post was list depth for 2024 and beyond - our 'best 22' is fine but as everyone is well aware, we seldom manage to have a best 22 available (finals this year is possibly the only time its occured in the past 3-5 years - and even then williams wasnt available and a few were heavily injury impacted).

This offseason we are likely to lose/have lost - obrien (depth), dow (depth), fisher (depth), curnow (depth), philp (early draft pick that never made it)

From your list, lets say Kennedy misses out (and is a depth player for 2024) - who are the other mids that we have on the list? - atm that would be Binns and potentially Carroll. The only known target at this stage is E. Hollands (potential but unproven but would be physically developed at least) - Notwithstanding most kids take some time to develop, we also have pick 16 to potentially add another mid (but no 2nd or 3rd round picks).

Real list depth through the midfield is very thin - Yes we could rotate cuningham through but he is unproven/injury prone, Similarly williams - unproven as a mid and coming back from a long term injury. Rotation also carries the risk of disrupting the team if they dont perform to the level and the replacement is results in a significant drop off in another area of the ground.

I'll wait for the trade period to play out but if we lose dow/fisher and dont bring in another mature bodied mid (Duursma, someone else) - if we cant bring a mature bodied mid in, then I'd very much prefer the club either hold Fisher to his contract, or increase their offer to keep down. If not, then my concern is we will be carrying a significant risk of underperforming into the 24/25 season when the inevitable injuries strike (missing top 4, potentially even finals)
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I think the only genuine decrease in midfield depth is Dow.
Ed was past it this year.
LOB played a total of 6 games, 3 or 4 as sub, and by round 1 next year will have been well and truely over-taken by Binns.
Fisher is over-taken by Williams. Philp has given us nothing as a Senior Player.

The thing is, the system means that you can't hold players like Dow. It's the way that salary cap and restricted list numbers and opportunity work. Hopefully Carroll and Binns and both Hollands can cover whatever we miss with Dow.
I would prefer that we could keep him, but I'm also not really concerned.
 
42 ++ with compo picks is a joke for Fish. We should engineer straight swap for EH at the least. If he's getting 4/5 years and solid coin, after 107 games and still young, I'd want their future end of first compo with something back their way. Play hard ball or keep Slip.
 
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Matty411 said:
42 ++ with compo picks is a joke for Fish. We should engineer straight swap for EH at the least. If he's getting 4/5 years and solid coin, after 107 games and still young, I'd want their future end of first compo with something back. Play hard ball or keep Slip.
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Fair chance NM end up with 34 back from WCE if they trade up to #1. No hurry to get it done.
 

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