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2023 AFL Trade Period and the AFL Draft

All About Carlton

Current draft picks: done
2024 draft picks: 1st, 2nd, 4th (Fre), 4th (GC), 4th (WBU)

List changes:
Out: 7 - Ed Curnow (Ret), Plowman (Ret), O'Brien (Del), Philp (Del), Honey (Del), Fisher (Trade), Dow (Trade)
In: 6 - Rob Monahan (IIR-CatB), Elijah Hollands (Trade), Orazio Fantasia (DFA), Ashton Moir (pick 29), Billy Wilson (pick 34), Matthew Carroll (Rookie pick 15)
Uncontracted: 0.
Retained SSP Players: 2 - Cincotta, O'Keeffe
Upgraded Rookie: 1 - Cottrell

List status:
Senior - 36 (36-38)
Rookie - 6 (0-6)
Cat-B Rookie - 2 (0-2)
Total - 44 (44)

Free spots - 0

Note - Matt Duffy (Ireland) not included - assumption is he was not listed after injuring knee.

List Lodgment Dates: OPEN
Tue 31-Oct: List Lodgment 1 COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: Father/Son, NGA, Northern Academy bidding nominations close COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: International Scholarship Listed players inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Thu 9-Nov: List Lodgment 2 COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Father/Son Primary List lodgment close COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Players not registered for 3 years inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: International Players inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Wed 22-Nov: List Lodgment 3 (post National draft) COMPLETE
Thu 23-Nov: FINAL List Lodgment (post PSD & Rookie drafts) PENDING

The Draft:
Mon 20-Nov
Time 7pm: National Draft Round One COMPLETE
Tue 21-Nov
5.45pm - 6.30pm: Selection Trade period COMPLETE
7pm: National Draft Round Two to completion COMPLETE
Following completion of draft: Rookie Promotion to Primary List COMPLETE
Following completion of draft: Delisted Free Agency Period (3) COMPLETE
Wed 22-Nov
Northern Academy and NGA Academy eligible Pre-Selected Rookie and Father-Son Pre-Selected Rookie player nominations
3pm: AFL Pre-season Draft COMPLETE
3.20pm: AFL Rookie Draft COMPLETE

Supplementary Selection Period (SSP): PENDING
Mon 27-Nov 9am: SSP starts (players must have been on AFL list previously OR nominated for 2023 draft)
Mon 19-Feb 5pm: SSP ends


Draft Nominations: CLOSED
Tue 10-Oct 9am: AFL Draft Nominations open COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: Out-of-contract listed AFL player draft nomination close (national or pre-season draft) COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov 3pm: AFL Draft Nominations close COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Delisted AFL player draft nomination close (national or pre-season draft) COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Non-retained rookie list player draft nomination close COMPLETE

Player and Selection Trades: CLOSED
Mon 9-Oct 9am: AFL Trade Period Commences – Players & Selections COMPLETE
Wed 18-Oct 7.30pm: AFL Trade Period Closes – Players & Selections COMPLETE
Mon 23-Oct 9am: AFL Trade Period Opens – Selections Only COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 5pm: AFL Trade Period Closes –Selections Only COMPLETE

Delisted Free Agency Periods: CLOSED
Wed 01-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences COMPLETE
Wed 08-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes COMPLETE
(see also period 3 under "The Draft" section below)

Restricted/Unrestricted Free Agency Trades: CLOSED
Fri 6-Oct 9am: AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period Commences COMPLETE
Fri 13-Oct 5pm: Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period COMPLETE
Mon 16-Oct 5pm: AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends COMPLETE

Draft Combines: CLOSED
Fri 6-Oct to Sun 8-Oct: National Draft Combine COMPLETE
Sun 8-Oct: Victorian State Combine COMPLETE
Sat 14-Oct: SA/NT State Combine COMPLETE
Sun 15-Oct: WA State Combine COMPLETE

6-Oct
1. James Jordon to Sydney as UFA. Melbourne receive end of 2nd round pick as compensation (40)
2. Matt Flynn to WCE as UFA. GWS receive end of 2nd round pick as compensation (41)
8-Oct
3. Joel Hamling to Sydney as UFA. Fremantle do not receive any compensation.
9-Oct
4. Tom Doedee to Brisbane as RFA. Adelaide receive end of 1st round compensation (pick 20)
5. Pick Swap: GCS trade picks 5, 48, 53 and future 3rd (GC) to WBU in return for picks 11, 18 and future 1st rd (WBU)
6. Pick Swap: Freo trade pick 25 and future 2nd rd to Port for future 1st (Port)
7. Todd Goldstein to Essendon as UFA. No compensation for North Melbourne.
10-Oct
8. Ben McKay to Essendon as RFA. North Melbourne receive 1st round pick as compensation (3)
9. James Harmes to Western Bulldogs. Melbourne receive a future 3rd rd pick (WBU)
11-Oct
10. Dylan Stephens to North Melbourne with pick 26. Sydney receive a future end of first round (pick 19) and this year's pick 45.
11. Pick Swap: Melbourne receives pick 11. Gold Coast get 14, 28, 36 in return.
12. Chris Burgess and pick 14 to Adelaide. Gold Coast get picks 24 and 27.
13. Pick Swap: North Melbourne receive pick 18. Gold Coast gets future end of first round (pick 20) comp pick.
14. Brodie Grundy to Sydney. Melbourne receive pick 47 and future second round pick (Syd)
15. Taylor Adams to Sydney. Collingwood receive pick 34.
16. Zac Fisher to North Melbourne with pick 17. CARLTON receive picks 22 and 26.
13-Oct
17. Jade Gresham to Essendon as RFA. St Kilda receive end of 1st round compensation (pick 21)
18. Toby Pink to North Melbourne - delisted free agent.
19. Tom Fullarton to Melbourne. Brisbane receive pick 47 in return.
14-Oct
20. Tyler Brockman to West Coast Eagles. Hawthorn receive picks 44 and 63 in return.
16-Oct
21. Bigoa Nyuon to North Melbourne. Richmond receive pick 65.
22. Lachie Schultz to Collingwood. Fremantle receive pick 34 and a future first round pick (Col) in return.
23. Liam Henry and future round four (Fre) pick to St Kilda. Fremantle receive a future 2nd (StK) and future 4th (StK).
17-Oct
24. Shane McAdam to Melbourne. Adelaide receive a future second round pick (Mel) in return.
25. Multi-trade
.... CARLTON: Give - Paddy Dow, future 3rd (Car), future 4th (Car). Receive - future 3rd (Ess), future 4th (Fre), future 4th (WBU)
.... Essendon: Give - 52, future 3rd (Ess). Receive - pick 35, future 4th (Car)
.... St Kilda: Give - Nick Coffield, picks 35, 56, future 4th (Fre). Receive - Paddy Dow, pick 40, future 3rd (Car)
.... Western Bulldogs: Give - pick 40, future 4th (WBU). Receive - Nick Coffield, picks 52, 56
18-Oct
26. Ivan Soldo to Port Adelaide with pick 50. Richmond receive picks 41, 49 a future 2nd round (Fre) and future 4th round (PA).
27. Jack Ginnivan pick 39, future 2nd (Col) and future 4th (Col) to Hawthorn. Collingwood receive pick 33, future 2nd (Haw), future 3rd (Haw)
28. Jordan Sweet to Port Adelaide. Western Bulldogs receive pick 50 in return.
29. Esava Ratugolea to Port Adelaide. Geelong receive picks 25, 76 and 94.
30. Elijah Hollands to CARLTON with pick 28 and future 4th (GC). Gold Coast receive pick 26 and future 3rd (Ess).
31. Jacob Koschitzke to Richmond. Hawthorn receive pick 49.
32. Jack Billings to Melbourne. St Kilda receive a future 3rd round pick (Mel).
33. Multi-trade
.... Brisbane: Give - Jack Gunston, picks 47, 61, future 2nd round (Bri). Receive - Ryan, 39, 54, future 4th (Haw).
.... Hawthorn: Give - Brandon Ryan, picks 39, 54, future 4th round (Haw). Receive - Gunston, 47, 61, future 2nd (Bri).
34. Mabior Chol to Hawthorn with pick 62. Gold Coast receive a future 2nd round pick (Bri).
35. Massimo D'Ambrosio to Hawthorn. Essendon receive pick 61, future 4th round (Col)
36. Multi-trade
.... Essendon: Give - Brandon Zerk-Thatcher, pick 73, future 4th round (Ess), future 4th round (Car). Receive - Xavier Duursma
.... Port Adelaide: Give - Xavier Duursma. Receive - Brandon Zerk-Thatcher, 73, future 4th round (Ess), future 4th round (Car)





Nominated:
Elliott Himmelberg to GWS (Trade) - staying at GWS

Mooted:
Buku Khamis - staying at Dogs
Dylan Shiel
Clayton Oliver - Ade/Gee - staying at Melbourne
Ollie Wines
Dan McKenzie - Suns?
Scott Lycett
Tom Clurey
James Borlase
Brynn Teakle
Josh Sinn
Orazio Fantasia - GWS?
Sam Hayes
Harrison Petty


Potential DFA and Retiree moves:
TBA

Missed Out on trades:
TBA




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thylacine60 said:
think we can refrain from clipping carlton players on the way out? gutless as..............
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Yeah the Fisher bashing is weird. Gave us 7 years and over 100 games, a massive part of our now great culture.

He didn't really do anything wrong in the end, just went through some very poor form as we saw a lot of improvement and fell out of favour. I'm glad he has set himself up long term with his new deal and hopefully he can play some good footy.
 

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thylacine60 said:
I really wanna hammer the crap out of north each and every time we meet them in future - as for fish, he's just another opposition player
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Hell yeah
 
thylacine60 said:
think we can refrain from clipping carlton players on the way out? gutless as..............
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Gutless... lol.

Fisher's been one of my favourite players since his debut, a very smart footballer with lovely skills but ultimately he wasn't very good defensively and that's why he was replaced by options who better fit our needs in that half forward role.

Had similar thoughts on Levi when we let him go. Loved what he did for the club in a tough time, I even have a signed guernsey from The Big Tofu... End of the day we wanted to make space for Harry and Charlie to become our two spearheads and it meant he was pushed out due to his limitations as a footballer.

If stating that is 'clipping a player on their way out' call me gutless all you want. Imo it's the equivalent of calling water wet. The club could have easily held on to Fisher if we wanted but clearly we saw him as replaceable and were happy to let him seek better opportunities for himself.
 
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HereComesJuddy said:
Rayner has been going to explode for the past 4 seasons. We are still waiting...
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On a related point about Rayner not exploding yet, we have been fortunate that the two seasons we did have pick 1 in the last 15 years we had the two best number one draft picks in the last 15 years

Pretty sure every other club would agree that Walsh and Weitering have been better than the others - Watts, Scully, Swallow, Patton, Whitfield, Boyd, McCartin, McGrath, Rayner, Rowell, Ugle-Hagan, Horne-Francis and Cadman. May be too early on some of the recent ones but we did avoid some less than stellar ones around the Walsh and Weitering years.


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Benaly28 said:
I’d really hate to be an aints or bombers supporter.Just the sheer ego of both list managers to who has the bigger d… is so just annoying.That d…….d Dodo who’s been there for so long and delivered sweet FA with that list and Sos who thinks the sun shines out of his a…

God they s… me.


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Nobody has had a bigger impact on Carlton than SOS in the last 30 years. Transformed a short-sighted glorified VFL shambles into a serious AFL club. In other words we'd still be in Essendon's position without him.

So the main difference between SOS and dodo is that the sun does really shine out his ass.
 
teddy-hopkins said:
Nobody has had a bigger impact on Carlton than SOS in the last 30 years. Transformed a short-sighted glorified VFL shambles into a serious AFL club. In other words we'd still be in Essendon's position without him.

So the main difference between SOS and dodo is that the sun does really shine out his ass.
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"hyperbole
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noun
exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally."
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Ciccio said:
I have seen a few time here that the Cats are interested in future picks. Is anyone able to explain why they are wanting to trade out Pick 8 this year for picks next year?
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I think part of the reason is they may judge that there’s an obvious group of 7 likely to go before that pick and that that pick is the start of the next group.

Not my view. Just one shared with me by someone with much better insight than I.
 
iAsbestos said:
who?
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One doesn't just ask...
It's a process.
There have to be outrageously cryptic pictures. Followed by legendary arguments about those pictures or clues... like after an epic fail by one team at a pictionary night.😛
 
Manhattanite said:
On a related point about Rayner not exploding yet, we have been fortunate that the two seasons we did have pick 1 in the last 15 years we had the two best number one draft picks in the last 15 years

Pretty sure every other club would agree that Walsh and Weitering have been better than the others - Watts, Scully, Swallow, Patton, Whitfield, Boyd, McCartin, McGrath, Rayner, Rowell, Ugle-Hagan, Horne-Francis and Cadman. May be too early on some of the recent ones but we did avoid some less than stellar ones around the Walsh and Weitering years.


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I fully agree with your assessment. The only thing I will say is that we were due some luck, because Murphy, Gibbs and Kreuzer were not the best in their draft class. And that’s not knocking them (in particular, Kreuzer’s injuries held him back). But it’s nice to have two players who are very much in the conversation as to whether they are the best in their draft class.
 

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JustOneTime said:
Carlton do seem to miss a trick on getting the best value out of unwanted players (Dow/Stocker/Fisher/Setters).
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Why do you think players we don't want and can't get near our best 22 have more value than we are getting? Fish is gone for effectively pick 31, which is bordering on overs.

Setterfield walked to Essendon, played four good games then got injured. Ended with 10 games averaging 20 touches. Pretty much what caused us to not want him in the firs place.

Stocker hasn't done much at St K, and was relegated to sub late in the year.

Dow is struggled to make an impact in 7 years at Carlton. What club would be willing to pay real currency for what would be a speculative pick on their behalf?
 
Arr0w said:
It's rare, normally impossible that you will pick the best player in the land with pick 1, let alone picking the best player still available at any other pick

Any recruiter that does that over their tenure would be the highest paid staff member at their club
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It’s a fair point, Arr0w. My original post might have been better phrased that it’s great to get a bit of luck in the Walsh and Weitering drafts. There aren’t many number one picks in the post-Riewoldt period who are even in the conversation about being best player in their draft. To have two of them, is definitely a good break.
 
Soapy V said:
A few people confident we will have a deal for Hollands by Monday. Both clubs happy to deal

I hope so. I rate the kid and think he will thrive under Voss
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As a junior he is exactly what we need. High impact half forward that can take a mark and hit the scoreboard.

Not sure why Goldcoast stuck him on a wing personally. But like him a lot.
 
bigm386 said:
As a junior he is exactly what we need. High impact half forward that can take a mark and hit the scoreboard.

Not sure why Goldcoast stuck him on a wing personally. But like him a lot.
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Yep. I think he can become that HF with midfield minutes we need. Talk is rehab on knee was handled poorly. We apparently did medical on knee and believe it needs to be strengthed more. Bit like Docherty, Williams have done though some US knee guru.

If he comes to us he will most likely spend some time in rehab getting this right.
 
Arr0w said:
It's rare, normally impossible that you will pick the best player in the land with pick 1, let alone picking the best player still available at any other pick

Any recruiter that does that over their tenure would be the highest paid staff member at their club
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Mm. That's why we should aim to get Harley at pick 21...
 
thylacine60 said:
What day are we thinking we're all talking double Dutch?
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Shouldn't be too far off given our recent double shot of Irish...

drunk fucked up GIF
 
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