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2023 AFL Trade Period and the AFL Draft

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Current draft picks: done
2024 draft picks: 1st, 2nd, 4th (Fre), 4th (GC), 4th (WBU)

List changes:
Out: 7 - Ed Curnow (Ret), Plowman (Ret), O'Brien (Del), Philp (Del), Honey (Del), Fisher (Trade), Dow (Trade)
In: 6 - Rob Monahan (IIR-CatB), Elijah Hollands (Trade), Orazio Fantasia (DFA), Ashton Moir (pick 29), Billy Wilson (pick 34), Matthew Carroll (Rookie pick 15)
Uncontracted: 0.
Retained SSP Players: 2 - Cincotta, O'Keeffe
Upgraded Rookie: 1 - Cottrell

List status:
Senior - 36 (36-38)
Rookie - 6 (0-6)
Cat-B Rookie - 2 (0-2)
Total - 44 (44)

Free spots - 0

Note - Matt Duffy (Ireland) not included - assumption is he was not listed after injuring knee.

List Lodgment Dates: OPEN
Tue 31-Oct: List Lodgment 1 COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: Father/Son, NGA, Northern Academy bidding nominations close COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: International Scholarship Listed players inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Thu 9-Nov: List Lodgment 2 COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Father/Son Primary List lodgment close COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Players not registered for 3 years inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: International Players inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Wed 22-Nov: List Lodgment 3 (post National draft) COMPLETE
Thu 23-Nov: FINAL List Lodgment (post PSD & Rookie drafts) PENDING

The Draft:
Mon 20-Nov
Time 7pm: National Draft Round One COMPLETE
Tue 21-Nov
5.45pm - 6.30pm: Selection Trade period COMPLETE
7pm: National Draft Round Two to completion COMPLETE
Following completion of draft: Rookie Promotion to Primary List COMPLETE
Following completion of draft: Delisted Free Agency Period (3) COMPLETE
Wed 22-Nov
Northern Academy and NGA Academy eligible Pre-Selected Rookie and Father-Son Pre-Selected Rookie player nominations
3pm: AFL Pre-season Draft COMPLETE
3.20pm: AFL Rookie Draft COMPLETE

Supplementary Selection Period (SSP): PENDING
Mon 27-Nov 9am: SSP starts (players must have been on AFL list previously OR nominated for 2023 draft)
Mon 19-Feb 5pm: SSP ends


Draft Nominations: CLOSED
Tue 10-Oct 9am: AFL Draft Nominations open COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: Out-of-contract listed AFL player draft nomination close (national or pre-season draft) COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov 3pm: AFL Draft Nominations close COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Delisted AFL player draft nomination close (national or pre-season draft) COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Non-retained rookie list player draft nomination close COMPLETE

Player and Selection Trades: CLOSED
Mon 9-Oct 9am: AFL Trade Period Commences – Players & Selections COMPLETE
Wed 18-Oct 7.30pm: AFL Trade Period Closes – Players & Selections COMPLETE
Mon 23-Oct 9am: AFL Trade Period Opens – Selections Only COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 5pm: AFL Trade Period Closes –Selections Only COMPLETE

Delisted Free Agency Periods: CLOSED
Wed 01-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences COMPLETE
Wed 08-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes COMPLETE
(see also period 3 under "The Draft" section below)

Restricted/Unrestricted Free Agency Trades: CLOSED
Fri 6-Oct 9am: AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period Commences COMPLETE
Fri 13-Oct 5pm: Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period COMPLETE
Mon 16-Oct 5pm: AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends COMPLETE

Draft Combines: CLOSED
Fri 6-Oct to Sun 8-Oct: National Draft Combine COMPLETE
Sun 8-Oct: Victorian State Combine COMPLETE
Sat 14-Oct: SA/NT State Combine COMPLETE
Sun 15-Oct: WA State Combine COMPLETE

6-Oct
1. James Jordon to Sydney as UFA. Melbourne receive end of 2nd round pick as compensation (40)
2. Matt Flynn to WCE as UFA. GWS receive end of 2nd round pick as compensation (41)
8-Oct
3. Joel Hamling to Sydney as UFA. Fremantle do not receive any compensation.
9-Oct
4. Tom Doedee to Brisbane as RFA. Adelaide receive end of 1st round compensation (pick 20)
5. Pick Swap: GCS trade picks 5, 48, 53 and future 3rd (GC) to WBU in return for picks 11, 18 and future 1st rd (WBU)
6. Pick Swap: Freo trade pick 25 and future 2nd rd to Port for future 1st (Port)
7. Todd Goldstein to Essendon as UFA. No compensation for North Melbourne.
10-Oct
8. Ben McKay to Essendon as RFA. North Melbourne receive 1st round pick as compensation (3)
9. James Harmes to Western Bulldogs. Melbourne receive a future 3rd rd pick (WBU)
11-Oct
10. Dylan Stephens to North Melbourne with pick 26. Sydney receive a future end of first round (pick 19) and this year's pick 45.
11. Pick Swap: Melbourne receives pick 11. Gold Coast get 14, 28, 36 in return.
12. Chris Burgess and pick 14 to Adelaide. Gold Coast get picks 24 and 27.
13. Pick Swap: North Melbourne receive pick 18. Gold Coast gets future end of first round (pick 20) comp pick.
14. Brodie Grundy to Sydney. Melbourne receive pick 47 and future second round pick (Syd)
15. Taylor Adams to Sydney. Collingwood receive pick 34.
16. Zac Fisher to North Melbourne with pick 17. CARLTON receive picks 22 and 26.
13-Oct
17. Jade Gresham to Essendon as RFA. St Kilda receive end of 1st round compensation (pick 21)
18. Toby Pink to North Melbourne - delisted free agent.
19. Tom Fullarton to Melbourne. Brisbane receive pick 47 in return.
14-Oct
20. Tyler Brockman to West Coast Eagles. Hawthorn receive picks 44 and 63 in return.
16-Oct
21. Bigoa Nyuon to North Melbourne. Richmond receive pick 65.
22. Lachie Schultz to Collingwood. Fremantle receive pick 34 and a future first round pick (Col) in return.
23. Liam Henry and future round four (Fre) pick to St Kilda. Fremantle receive a future 2nd (StK) and future 4th (StK).
17-Oct
24. Shane McAdam to Melbourne. Adelaide receive a future second round pick (Mel) in return.
25. Multi-trade
.... CARLTON: Give - Paddy Dow, future 3rd (Car), future 4th (Car). Receive - future 3rd (Ess), future 4th (Fre), future 4th (WBU)
.... Essendon: Give - 52, future 3rd (Ess). Receive - pick 35, future 4th (Car)
.... St Kilda: Give - Nick Coffield, picks 35, 56, future 4th (Fre). Receive - Paddy Dow, pick 40, future 3rd (Car)
.... Western Bulldogs: Give - pick 40, future 4th (WBU). Receive - Nick Coffield, picks 52, 56
18-Oct
26. Ivan Soldo to Port Adelaide with pick 50. Richmond receive picks 41, 49 a future 2nd round (Fre) and future 4th round (PA).
27. Jack Ginnivan pick 39, future 2nd (Col) and future 4th (Col) to Hawthorn. Collingwood receive pick 33, future 2nd (Haw), future 3rd (Haw)
28. Jordan Sweet to Port Adelaide. Western Bulldogs receive pick 50 in return.
29. Esava Ratugolea to Port Adelaide. Geelong receive picks 25, 76 and 94.
30. Elijah Hollands to CARLTON with pick 28 and future 4th (GC). Gold Coast receive pick 26 and future 3rd (Ess).
31. Jacob Koschitzke to Richmond. Hawthorn receive pick 49.
32. Jack Billings to Melbourne. St Kilda receive a future 3rd round pick (Mel).
33. Multi-trade
.... Brisbane: Give - Jack Gunston, picks 47, 61, future 2nd round (Bri). Receive - Ryan, 39, 54, future 4th (Haw).
.... Hawthorn: Give - Brandon Ryan, picks 39, 54, future 4th round (Haw). Receive - Gunston, 47, 61, future 2nd (Bri).
34. Mabior Chol to Hawthorn with pick 62. Gold Coast receive a future 2nd round pick (Bri).
35. Massimo D'Ambrosio to Hawthorn. Essendon receive pick 61, future 4th round (Col)
36. Multi-trade
.... Essendon: Give - Brandon Zerk-Thatcher, pick 73, future 4th round (Ess), future 4th round (Car). Receive - Xavier Duursma
.... Port Adelaide: Give - Xavier Duursma. Receive - Brandon Zerk-Thatcher, 73, future 4th round (Ess), future 4th round (Car)





Nominated:
Elliott Himmelberg to GWS (Trade) - staying at GWS

Mooted:
Buku Khamis - staying at Dogs
Dylan Shiel
Clayton Oliver - Ade/Gee - staying at Melbourne
Ollie Wines
Dan McKenzie - Suns?
Scott Lycett
Tom Clurey
James Borlase
Brynn Teakle
Josh Sinn
Orazio Fantasia - GWS?
Sam Hayes
Harrison Petty


Potential DFA and Retiree moves:
TBA

Missed Out on trades:
TBA




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Indicative Draft Order

List Changes by Club
 
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4flagsin5yrs said:
Is it?

Ben McKay - grossly overpaid and a real injury risk.
Gresham - has his moments, but meh.
Goldstein - will be almost 36 by the 2024 season.

Do you really reckon any of these players will get the Cheats into finals, let alone a flag tilt?
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Put a side the contract those 3 would play seniors on our team so a team like Essendon it’s good , they gave up nothing for them mate
 
C4[2]Yo`DooR said:
We should just move to the NFL concept where all free agent compensatory picks are 3rd round picks, regardless of contract.
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I like the way the nba does it ..if you lose a player you lose them too bad but if you drafted them you can pay the em more to entice them to stay… they also have the trading down pact .. futures with restrictions and even those futures can be restricted on where you finish …. Ours will evolve it has too becaue currently it’s a joke and teams are rorting it
 

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Monty1978 said:
I like the way the nba does it ..if you lose a player you lose them too bad but if you drafted them you can pay the em more to entice them to stay… they also have the trading down pact .. futures with restrictions and even those futures can be restricted on where you finish …. Ours will evolve it has too becaue currently it’s a joke and teams are rorting it
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I’d be happy if the AFL allowed non top 8 sides $100k out of the cap to retain a FA if they recruited them or something along those lines.
NBA also doesn’t have a hard salary cap, has max deals and almost four times less players on the ground/court.
Our game has so unique challenges that need considerations
 
4flagsin5yrs said:
All three would struggle to break into our 22.
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I disagree .. mckay would play with weiters and Gresham would have first crack at half forward .. you think cunners Fogarty and owies are keeping him out .. and I would prefer Goldstein over pitto but hopefully we go the 1 ruck route and play tdk.. my point was more for a free hit Essendon did well besides the contract
 
HavUEvaSeenTheRain said:
I’d be happy if the AFL allowed non top 8 sides $100k out of the cap to retain a FA if they recruited them or something along those lines.
NBA also doesn’t have a hard salary cap, has max deals and almost four times less players on the ground/court.
Our game has so unique challenges that need considerations
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Nba is a joke with their salary cap but that’s more of a business to the owners …. I would have something similar after a player becomes a free agent that team that drafted them can put a franchise tag on that player and pay him 20% more but maybe only 1-2 players
 
Red_man2008 said:
* have just managed to trade in FA players that they already have on their list with the same ability, If not worse, but they are more expensive. DumbARSES.
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Doesn't matter, those that think trade week is about improving the list are over thinking it. It is for obnoxious Egophiles to prance around and show how tough their bargaining modus operandi is. (Not looking at anyone in particular Dordoro, SOS)
Dordoro 3 FA's
Carlton 0
* Dodoro beating us convincingly as it currently stands.....

Long may they never play finals whilst that knob is driving the recruiting bus.
 

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Manhattanite said:
The crazy thing is as per the AFL compensation make up thingy, Ben McKay (who is an average defender but could become an above average KPD) is worth pick 3 for his old team and Lance Franklin was valued at pick 19 when he left the Hawks




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Not saying it's the right way to go about it, but it seems a perverse mixing of 2023salaries, and 2024 salary cap, has seen silly compensation picks.

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Revenant1965 said:
Not saying it's the right way to go about it, but it seems a perverse mixing of 2023salaries, and 2024 salary cap, has seen silly compensation picks.

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In fairness, it's not the compensation picks that are silly. It's the salaries that are silly and leading to silly compensation picks. I think if you got rid of restricted free agency you wouldn't have as much of a problem. Clubs are paying massive overs to avoid the other club matching so they can get the player for free. Free agents will still get overs but not to the same extent if you take that out of it.
 
marcmurphy3 said:
In fairness, it's not the compensation picks that are silly. It's the salaries that are silly and leading to silly compensation picks. I think if you got rid of restricted free agency you wouldn't have as much of a problem. Clubs are paying massive overs to avoid the other club matching so they can get the player for free. Free agents will still get overs but not to the same extent if you take that out of it.
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It seems compensation picks are worked on salary percentage in relation to total salary cap for 2023, and in 2024 total salary cap goes up so percentage is less. Seems bizarre by AFL.

On salaries, I don't mind a club paying 'overs' to attract a FA. If a club has been 'down' and front loading some contracts with a plan to pay 'overs' to get a FA, good on them. My beef is with compensation picks and how it pushes other clubs further down draft order.
Imagine (big hypothetical, I know) that one year 12 players change clubs and they all attract band 1 compensation, and all clubs below are pushed back by 12 picks - eg our original 'natural pick 16' (where we finished '3rd) then becomes pick 28....

And I can also see the point about a side getting in a FA having to pay picks/points to side losing a player. But I wonder what sort of handbrake effect it may have on free agency, and how this could penalise a club that actually has been good with salary cap management. Just me though...
 
4flagsin5yrs said:
All three would struggle to break into our 22.
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I disagree , all could be options for our team. Gresham, Goldstein & Mckay will enhance the Bombers spine and give them some magic at the feet of 2M Peter, Phillips & Weideman.
I think they’ve done well & their performances will improve noticeably.
Moreover quite a few of our opposition sides have improved again this trade period whilst we are languishing & wondering.
Let’s hope at least 1 or 2 improvements are made by Wednesday.
In Austin we trust.
 
bmaurizio said:
I disagree , all could be options for our team. Gresham, Goldstein & Mckay will enhance the Bombers spine and give them some magic at the feet of 2M Peter, Phillips & Weideman.
I think they’ve done well & their performances will improve noticeably.
Moreover quite a few of our opposition sides have improved again this trade period whilst we are languishing & wondering.
Let’s hope at least 1 or 2 improvements are made by Wednesday.
In Austin we trust.
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Z.Williams
E.Hollands
Full
Pre season from Walsh and further improvement from our younger players
Binns/Hollands/Cowan/Lemmey/Okeefe I think we’ll be ok.

Next years trade and draft might be where we go hard for some free agents etc.



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