It is a bit concerning that you only apply your principals when it suits you and the fact that a guy gets widespread condemnation for simply liking a social media post doesn't clue you in to the fact that you are the majority oppressor is rather comical.
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The reality is, people are murdered because they are homosexual. There's laws against it in the Middle East, Africa, people get brutally assaulted in Eastern Europe, Russia etc. We know gay people are more likely to commit suicide. I don't think hateful speech and anyone endorsing it will help.
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Who cares what god-botherers think anyway?
Many of them are hypocritical pieces of shit.
Many of them are hypocritical pieces of shit.
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Of course belief is a choice. An individual weighs up a set of environmental, cultural and social beliefs or ideologies and filters through what they believe to best suit them. For example in my household there is a mixed labour v liberal mindset, yet my environment was to me a set of ideologies that I didn’t always conform to.
It’s absolutely nonsensical and simplistic to say that he can’t choose to believe what he does because he follows Jesus or some deity. There’s been several causes I’ve been attracted to in the past but chose not to follow them further because of certain principles they adopted.
If Folau really had an issue with persecuting gay people he’d stop being a hardcore religious type. The issue is, and one that you don’t grasp, is that he shares a common belief with that set of values peddled by extreme Christians.
So once again, head off to a room and see if you can see a dog. I am sorry, but your attempt at being sophisticated really fell by the by with your simpleton analogy.
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I find it laughable that these criminals turn to God when they’ve got nothing left. Especially in Ablett Snr case. Does it help him sleep better at night after helping a young girl to an overdose?Who cares what god-botherers think anyway?
Many of them are hypocritical pieces of shit.
You see it all the time with death row inmates in America. All of a sudden they ‘find God’. I wonder if they hadn’t been caught whether they’d have found God? Seems a desperate attempt at reconciliation of guilt for their sub human actions.
Pissweak.
I wasn't trying to be sophisticated, I was dumbing down to match the level of my interlocutor. You still didn't answer the simple analogy.
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How many gay AFL footballers do you think there’d be out there? I’d probably tip by the population size, a few. If being gay and admitting it was such a welcoming part of life, why isn’t there more openness to it? The fact is, there’s still serious oppression. Several gay people I know took a very long time to come out for fear of persecution and worry about what people thought of them.
Gary Ablett, Matthew Kennedy and Israel Folau do nothing to promote a hate free place for homosexuals.
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Stuff like this doesn't help either.
Stuff like this doesn't help either.
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There is a movie called 4 lions that had a good crack at it
And what have you done to promote a hate free place for transgender people with your idea that belief is a choice and they can choose to believe they are either gender, but want to choose the hard path. How extremely dismissive of their struggle.
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It’s not a plot twist, stop avoiding his point by trying to pass it off as one. The poster was pointing out how quickly someone such as yourself trying to be overly PC gets tied up in knots.
Folau is in the minority as the majority believe in equality for homosexuals.. and you’re defending all minorities... by condemning Folau
You also haven’t replied to my response on my post that you quoted. I think you’re in way over your head here.
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Im a Christian. These days it makes you more unpopular to admit your faith in god than most on this thread would realize. My faith has cost me old friends, promotions in my work, relationships with family and general social standing in sports club environments. I use to be super loose to the point of self destruction and ticked almost all the boxes on Izzys list. I was a professional athlete for 15 years and my life was ruled by trying to be cool...to fit in with what the world wanted me to be. I was on a path to an early grave mostly due to doing most of Izzys list regularly. A true hell man. A man of the world. Finding god gave me peace but it is farkin tough being a Christian in this day and age. These are the end days and in heavan there will be NO COWARDS.
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No mate, I am not in over my head. You’re seriously confused about how a majority and minority works. Folau isn’t a minority, he is attacking a set of people who are homosexual and who have traditionally been heavily persecuted against; hence how Gay marriage was only recently made legal.It’s not a plot twist, stop avoiding his point by trying to pass it off as one. The poster was pointing out how quickly someone such as yourself trying to be overly PC gets tied up in knots.
Folau is in the minority here as the majority believe in equality for homosexuals.. and you’re defending all minorities... by condemning Folau
You also haven’t replied to my response on my post that you quoted. I think you’re in way over your head here.
Gay people in society who admitted their preferences were persecuted. Now irrespective of how many gay people there are out there, the comment was one that was insulting an hurtful.
Folau isn’t being pulled up because he is a MINORITY he is being pulled up because his comments were INSULTING.
Gross difference.
According to your doctrine it is infinitely harder for everyone who is not a Christian. Seems strange you would complain about how tough it is when everyone else has it much harder.
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No, I am not saying that, I am saying people who are gay shouldn’t have to feel bullied and insulted by people like Folau spitting out that bile.
Simple.
You’ve also missed the bit in his contract, so he hasn’t been dealt with exclusively differently, he has breached a standard.
You remind me of Cartman who keeps calling Mexicans minorities even when they are dominant social group both in numbers and normative beliefs.
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All you tree hugging Ablett haters must think your in heaven.
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Did you read the part that said ‘irrespective of how many are out there’? Well an insult is an insult. Do you think the word N**ger has less influence because there’s a lot of black people in the world?
Wow! You called me DENSE????
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Not really, just don’t need that shit spread around the place.
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You’re getting confused trying to fight too many battles here mate. My original post had nothing to do with this, never did I approve of what Folau posted. I was pointing out that not everyone has the same rights when dealing with their employer.
I also believe that gay people shouldn’t have to feel bullied or insulted. My point was that straight people should share the same rights as homosexuals, particularly when it comes to employment.
Getting back to my original response: So are you for equality, or superiority of miniroties?
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How is that so? How is it infinitely harder? According to the old christian views (as well as views of islam), the only thing made difficult was being a homosexual. The religion of Christianity didn't make it infinitely harder for those who didn't believe in it. Anyway, with all this said, Australia (the settled version) is moving away from its Christian roots to a more inclusive and progressive culture. As such, people who practice Christianity will become more demonised and those who don't will be more welcomed. Despite the multi culture nature of our country with its wide variety of religions, atheism is on the increase.
Silversurfer is right; you can't really profess your belief in Christ as much as you could say back during early settlement days without ramifications. And things like the pedophilia and Izzy's strong beliefs just keep making it more difficult. The thing to remember though is that most modern Christians are progressive yet get lumped in with the likes of those old testament believers like Izzy.
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Anyway, shouldn’t this be off the MB and on one re society or something like that? It’s not football related....
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Well I dare say RA didn’t want to associate themselves with an individual who felt so strongly about a topic that would cause insult and harm and bring the code into disrepute. It’s illegal to insult someone based on their religious or sexual preference.
Secondly, of course I am for equality, but you’ve got to understand people in a minority who face bigotry and persecution will react differently when bullied by majorities.
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