List Mgmt. Geelong at the 2012 AFL National Draft (selections Nos. 16, 77 and 92)

[David the Cat]

Well there goes Ben Kennedy then....only 174cm and looks a real goer. Will do well with whoever gets him.

 

[Selective Retention]

Does anyone know if there is a live video stream or draft blog or something for those of us on foreign shores?

SEN are doing the draft. AFL may stream that audio on the website, whether that sort of stuff is usually geo blocked or not, I'm sure you are in a better position to know from past experience than I. At a minimum there will be a draft tracker up on the official site.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

If Stringer is still available at 16 I thinking you'll hear Wells giggling as he calls out his name. Teams like GWS and the Bulldogs have multiple high picks so it seems like a sound strategy to bank one kid who is "safe" and use another pick on a "high risk-high reward" type.

If we somehow managed to snare Stringer at 16 I will do a happy dance.

If Stringer is available at 16 I think Wells will call out his name so fast it's not funny.

Hopefully he drops to us.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Well there goes Ben Kennedy then....only 174cm and looks a real goer. Will do well with whoever gets him.

We're passing on Garlett because of attitude problems, not height problems.

Providing Kennedy doesn't share said attitude problems, and all reports are that he's a good kid, he'd be well in the mix for us as he's a very good player.

 

[LifeSpan-Void]

If Stringer is available at 16 I think Wells will call out his name so fast it's not funny.

Hopefully he drops to us.

Stringer looks like he'd be ready to roll in Rd. 1 from a developmental viewpoint, he's a monster.

 

[Farmer2Goggin]

I think that both Kersten and Menzel will be our future forward flankers. I thought one of the big problems with our forward line last year was the lack of marking options besides Hawkins and Pods. Menzel caused absolute havoc late in 2011 as a marking med tall, just as Stevie J did when he was a forward flanker.
Far too often the alternative option seemed to be Stokes who had no hope of taking a mark in a contested situation.

We looked really dangerous when we had Menzel and Duncan drifting forward in 2011 (?) but this season without Menzel and with Duncan playing more midfield we lacked that class , marking ability and conversion .
I love Stokes when he's on but cannot stand it when we spot him up as a marking option. We have so many medium options to run through forward can't wait to see what the combination is in 2013. If we stay injury free next season with an expanded midfield we will have some serious scoring potential - Hawk , Pods, Menzel , Chappy , SJ , Duncan , Varcoe, Smedts , Stokes , Vardy .........phew !!

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Stringer looks like he'd be ready to roll in Rd. 1 from a developmental viewpoint, he's a monster.

He is. First class attitude too.

I'm a fan.

 

[meto]

Taylor Hunt, Christensen, Stringer, Schroder are all 6ft and under was good to get Caddy as he along with Duncan, Horlin-Smith are slightly bigger bodies but gaining another mid the same size or bigger would be preferable I reckon

You can add Varcoe to that group, as well as Stokes if he's played further up and we've still got Chappy to fit in somewhere. So yeah we got a point I reckon.

 

[thejester]

Well, that would put him in competition with Menzel, which probably doesn't help his cause much.
I don't say he won't get a few games next year but, barring injuries or a speccie start, it won't be "a lot".
I know a lot of young blokes got a few games last year, but those who think the same thing is going to happen next year need to think about the basic numbers.
We've lost one 1sts player, and we've picked up 5 - or 6 if you count Caddy.
Which means 4 or 5 fewer regular spots available.
Even if you drop Corey and/or Stokes, there are still fewer spots available than last season.

Don't disagree that it'll be harder to get games next year although I suspect a lot of the 2-3 game players will get theirs because of general soreness. Kersten is however (along with Lincoln McCarthy) the real breakout chance in the squad for next year IMO. Yes he's competing for a spot with Menzel but given the latter's injury history and aborted comeback last year I'm not confident he'll play 22 games. Kersten's physically mature and can seriously play - those five goals against Box Hill weren't a flash in the pan. Certainly not in danger of being delisted, at any rate - although (in an effort to segue this back on topic) my prediction of glory may have to be tempered if we draft Stringer given that he and Caddy will both probably do stints up forward in a similar role.

 

[dazbroncos]

If any one will know it will be daz.

Maybe PM him if he doesn't respond.

Not aware of one yet.... am looking and will post if i find an AFL approved source for internet content.

Go Tenzel... I mean Catters.....

 

[FredLeDeux]

oh you mean when Podsiadly is leading to the pocket but they decide to ignore that option and kick a high ball into to Stokes who's got one defender wrestling with him and another defender just behind ready to crumb?

They did that so often this season that you would have thought they were deliberately practising it under match conditions.

 

[LifeSpan-Void]

He is. First class attitude too.

I'm a fan.

Cal Twomey on the AFL site has him as low as 18, with us supposedly taking Garner. Surely not?!

 

[Senatorguesty]

Cal Twomey on the AFL site has him as low as 18, with us supposedly taking Garner. Surely not?!

He wont go lower than 16 because we WILL take him if he's available.

 

[Footy Smarts]

Cal Twomey on the AFL site has him as low as 18, with us supposedly taking Garner. Surely not?!

Unless there are huge concerns that he'll never get over his injuries we won't let him go past us. Passing on a player of that quality just isn't the Geelong way.

 

[Boxhead_31]

A big, and I mean big, around 190 and 90+kilo inside mid, is definately the type of player we lack considering our poor clearance numbers last year.
I always said we needed to restock the midfield after the exit of Rooke and Ling, both those boys were listed at 189cm and 90+ kg easy.
Ever since, winning at clearances got much tougher.
For that reason he would be a correct choice.

To me if we get the chance to take Stringer and we do indeed take him, we will have gotten Joel Corey mkII both of there stats are very similar.
Give Stringer a season seeing how Smithy goes about it attach him to his hip to show him how to pre-pair himself for the rigours of an AFL career and the kid will be an out and out star

 

[Pivo]

Completely off-topic but does anyone else get twitchy when they seem something they wrote quoted and it has spelling or grammatical errors?

I saw the post I wrote about Stringer and see I put "I thinking you'll..."

Oh dear.

Back on topic - do people think either Stringer or Menzel will actually drop to us? Based on talent I just can't see teams in front of us passing either of them up, especially the ones with multiple picks.

GWS have 5 picks before Geelong, surely they'd have a dip at one of Stringer or Menzel. I could easily see Port taking Menzel at 7 if he was still there (and Grundy was gone).

 

[Belisarius]

Two days to go - and things still seeming to change re who Footy writers and punditsthink who will take who. The latest being Plowman going higher than expected from earlier predictions.

Menzel seems to have slowly gone up in the draft and therefore will not get GFC - when once he seemed a possibility. Now there is Stringer seemimg to slip down the list and maybe available to GFC at pick 16.

I would love Stringer but just cannot see him be overlooked until pick 16. Such a pity as 2012 drafting with Caddy, HMac and Rivers - if you added Stringer would have been a colossus of year for us.

Then there was Vlatsuin - but now the money is on him going to Richmond.

Now we hear that Garner maybe a GFC pick - and this at least sounds realistic in that he might be there at pick 16.

I also hope Jaksch is there for us to have a look at - but I think also unlikely. Maybe Simpson or Garlett will be there as well.

I like the idea of leg speed but not sure these guys are as good as a Stringer selection would be. Another Joel Corey is what we would really want if we can get it IMO. Then a KPB if available.

Whatever the result I am pretty sure of 2 things - a decent player will be available at pick 16 for us to select and we will for one of the few times have heard of the buy we select at our first pick. Like Smedts 2 years ago and unlike Mackie and Hamling.

My wish list would look like this -

Stringer
Menzel
Vlatsuin
Jaksch

In that order. But I suspect none will make to pick 16. So I have no idea who we will take at this point in time. Cannot wait for Thursday - and I hope there is a slider or two.

 

[bulletproof]

Stringer sounds a bit like Ling. Ling was a freak in terms of attitude and endurance, so will be interesting to see if Stringer can adapt his game as successfully, a big bodied midfielder does appeal to me.

Would be happy with Stringer or the boy from Northern Knights, Vlatsuin.

 

[thejester]

Back on topic - do people think either Stringer or Menzel will actually drop to us? Based on talent I just can't see teams in front of us passing either of them up, especially the ones with multiple picks.

GWS have 5 picks before Geelong, surely they'd have a dip at one of Stringer or Menzel.

I just wrote out a massive post with the intention of showing that we were a serious chance for Stringer but by the end was considerably less sure. I think the hurdle is at #6 with the Dogs. I'm not as worried about GWS speculating, although it could happen, because I think no matter which way you spin it a couple of big talents are going to slide to 12 and 14 that they'll probably look to nab.

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

My concern with him besides the leg injury is that he could be perhaps another Daniel Rich. Once other kids grow into their bodies it evens things up and closes the gap significantly from U/18's.

I know it was just an example of how more physically mature players can look better in underage comps, but if Daniel Rich is the worst-case scenario, that's a pretty bloody good return from pick #16 in the draft. In fact, if Rich was offered by the Lions for pick #16 (before the draft commenced), I'd take that in a heartbeat.

 

[meto]

Two days to go - and things still seeming to change re who Footy writers and punditsthink who will take who. The latest being Plowman going higher than expected from earlier predictions.

Menzel seems to have slowly gone up in the draft and therefore will not get GFC - when once he seemed a possibility. Now there is Stringer seemimg to slip down the list and maybe available to GFC at pick 16.

I would love Stringer but just cannot see him be overlooked until pick 16. Such a pity as 2012 drafting with Caddy, HMac and Rivers - if you added Stringer would have been a colossus of year for us.

Then there was Vlatsuin - but now the money is on him going to Richmond.

Now we hear that Garner maybe a GFC pick - and this at least sounds realistic in that he might be there at pick 16.

I also hope Jaksch is there for us to have a look at - but I think also unlikely. Maybe Simpson or Garlett will be there as well.

I like the idea of leg speed but not sure these guys are as good as a Stringer selection would be. Another Joel Corey is what we would really want if we can get it IMO. Then a KPB if available.

Whatever the result I am pretty sure of 2 things - a decent player will be available at pick 16 for us to select and we will for one of the few times have heard of the buy we select at our first pick. Like Smedts 2 years ago and unlike Mackie and Hamling.

My wish list would look like this -

Stringer
Menzel
Vlatsuin
Jaksch

In that order. But I suspect none will make to pick 16. So I have no idea who we will take at this point in time. Cannot wait for Thursday - and I hope there is a slider or two.

That's my order! If we don't get the top 3 we go Jaksch a mobile marking tall and just go with the mids we got, and we got alot. So Jaksch will be a future asset, no doubt!

 

[dazbroncos]

I just wrote out a massive post with the intention of showing that we were a serious chance for Stringer but by the end was considerably less sure. I think the hurdle is at #6 with the Dogs. I'm not as worried about GWS speculating, although it could happen, because I think no matter which way you spin it a couple of big talents are going to slide to 12 and 14 that they'll probably look to nab.

GWS to me is the net that will grab anything left over sliding at 12. 5 picks is just too many to not take a swing on Tenzel or Stringer if available.
They are so loaded with talented players that they could ice someone for 12 months as expectations aren't high for 2013 other than win some games.

jester - I see BMAC wanting or really needing both picks to be a hit and safety to me would be his first option, not potential. My guess, and it is only that, he plays safer.

Go Catters

 

[catswhiskers]

Whatever the result I am pretty sure of 2 things - a decent player will be available at pick 16 for us to select and we will for one of the few times have heard of the buy we select at our first pick. Like Smedts 2 years ago and unlike Mackie and Hamling.

......and Mitch Brown.

in fact it is more likely I won't know much about the player picked at 16, if Wells is true to form!

 

[meto]

......and Mitch Brown.

in fact it is more likely I won't know much about the player picked at 16, if Wells is true to form!

Lets hope not this time, it's pretty obvious there's a bit of talent in this draft, no point going left field and trying to be clever.

 

[magicmarker]

I totally agree with what has been said here, when we won in 2011 it was widely acknowledged that we were just too big and strong on the inside over four quarters, but in the space of 12 months we've lost that advantage due to the retirements of Ling and Ottens, plus Bartel, Corey and Chapman spending more time away from the ball. Duncan has stepped up and he is in a similar mould to these guys, but the addition of the likes of Christenson, Motlop, Jesse Stringer etc leaves us a little undersized. If players have the talent, then height is not so important, but we need to have some balance, and given the smalls we have at the moment I wouldn't be looking to draft guys like Hrovat and Kennedy. The ones I'd be looking at would be the likes of Lonergan, Wines (well out of reach), and Stringer. With Caddy also in next year, we'd start to build a big strong core like we have had over the last 5 or 6 years.

I'm actually pretty confident that he'll be there at our pick. Looking through the list and those players who have been linked to various clubs, and it would appear that other clubs are looking for other types of players. You would think Carlton would be a chance, but why would they take him if they could potentially take one of Jaksch, Macrae or Mayes? North maybe? I'm optimistic he'll be there, just not as confident we'll take him - since when has Wells been predictable???