List Mgmt. Geelong at the 2012 AFL National Draft (selections Nos. 16, 77 and 92)

[meto]

With pick 16 we'll get one of the best but, please Mr Wells no more lean beans that take forever to put on weight or develop an Afl body in general.

Ollie Wines at 188/90kg, wouldn't you love him, but not going to happen, but theere are others.

 

[Jmac2225]

Whats your dream first choice pick to suit your club?
During the year the boys asked dayle garlett what team would you like to play afl for. he replied,
well i would preffer and rather not play footy or live in queensland, adelaide ,sydney with the new teams and the other teams like
the cats, tigers, freo, north melb, blues he cant see himself playing for them as not a fan of them growing up so hopefully not them teams will be sweet. but the the rest is ok, so guys would you rather a player like vlastuin, jasksch, kennedy, clurey, stringer ect that are keen to play with pride as there is so many great kids around ?

Garlett will be a dud anyway. No interest what so ever

 

[muttonchops]

The mock draft in the Herald Sun this morning has us getting Stringer, lets hope they are right.

 

[Senatorguesty]

The mock draft in the Herald Sun this morning has us getting Stringer, lets hope they are right.

If that's how it plays out we have robbed the place.
Sort out his leg.
Sort out his running/kicking and he will be a star.

 

[onlymagic]

Yeah, I think a few 'journalists' may have been caught up with the running gait thing. I would be over the moon if we got him at 16 but I don't want to get my hopes up because I still can't quite see it happening.

 

[Jmac2225]

The mock draft in the Herald Sun this morning has us getting Stringer, lets hope they are right.

If that's how it plays out we have robbed the place.
Sort out his leg.
Sort out his running/kicking and he will be a star.

No need to sort out his kicking he nailed a perfect score on the Buckley kicking test.

As for the Huns draft piece I can't see it being real accurate. A few players being taken before Stringer that I just can't see happening like Hovrat and Simpson. Wouldn't be surprised to see Richmond, Carlton or the Roos take a gamble. They're strong enough to take the risk and could really use his type.

I'm pretty pessimistic about us getting Stringer or Tenzel but fingers crossed.

 

[Senatorguesty]

No need to sort out his kicking he nailed a perfect score on the Buckley kicking test.

As for the Huns draft piece I can't see it being real accurate. A few players being taken before Stringer that I just can't see happening like Hovrat and Simpson. Wouldn't be surprised to see Richmond, Carlton or the Roos take a gamble. They're strong enough to take the risk and could really use his type.

I'm pretty pessimistic about us getting Stringer or Tenzel but fingers crossed.

I didn't know about the kicking test. Interesting.
I agree I don't think we will get either stringer or tenzel but wowee if we do.

 

[onlymagic]

Maybe we could call it 'Stringer Gait' if we ended up getting him!

 

[Turbocat]

Not the first time we have been linked to Stringer.

I watched Stringer in the Champs and was underwhelmed , he reminded me of the big kid pushing the little kids around like a 15 year old playing under 12's..

Perhaps I was harsh , coming back after injury , serous injury quite often hides a players true ability.Watching him play in some high lights , yes there elements of Hodge but to me he shows similar traits to Kennedy of the Swans , and he has nice kick on the move. The kid is as power as it get as power mid. If Corey is a big strong mid then this kid is his replacement ( in theory )

Sure get his running right he is a top 5 pick , before the leg one could imagine he was a standout but just being in the system for a while will help him get away from just treating his opponents like Balsa wood. He will learn and perhaps just like TomH he will eventually be able to use his natural presence , his natural power at the elite level.

The draw back. Apart from multiple Stringers on the list , I suspect if we do draft him he will be yet another long term player , not one who will make an immediate impact.

 

[Boxhead_31]

Haha, now North are going to go after Stringer

Well that's it then we may as well hand Jake the #36 jumper now

 

[Boxhead_31]

Tend to agree TC , was generally thought that Rookie upgrades after Stringer wouldn't count as picks leaving us needing to have 2 picks in the ND.
No doubt we will have targets at P79 but I seriously doubt it's part of some grand , master plan as some posters have alluded to.

I checked with a few sources during the trade period (trade week radio and the Herald Sun trade chat) if we upgraded two rookies that would have counted as 2 draft picks

 

[Turbocat]

I checked with a few sources during the trade period (trade week radio and the Herald Sun trade chat) if we upgraded two rookies that would have counted as 2 draft picks

CA08 , no offence but TWR and HS chat. Id trust the info on our board more than both and its been very conflicted on this. We'd need a draft guru like Emma Quale to specify it or an AFL rep.
If someone has Twitter perhaps you can ask her on that https://twitter.com/emmasq

 

[supahoops]

I can't understand why we'd take a gamble on him considering this leg injury is a pretty severe break.
The draft is good and we are in a position to challenge for a flag over the next 3 years so gaining a ready-made player would be of preference instead of gaining one who won't be ready for another 18 months.

Varcoe, Selwood...Stringer, Menzel

 

[FredLeDeux]

North's off-season just keeps getting better and better.
After NM persuaded Jacobs to go into the draft so they could get him with pick 38, Bomber Thompson has now said that Essendon are looking at grabbing him with pick 35.

 

[Boxhead_31]

CA08 , no offence but TWR and HS chat. Id trust the info on our board more than both and its been very conflicted on this. We'd need a draft guru like Emma Quale to specify it or an AFL rep.
If someone has Twitter perhaps you can ask her on that https://twitter.com/emmasq

I was going to put a rider there TC about those sources but if we can't trust "The List Manager" who can we trust

 

[supahoops]

I can't understand why we'd take a gamble on him considering this leg injury is a pretty severe break.
The draft is good and we are in a position to challenge for a flag over the next 3 years so gaining a ready-made player would be of preference instead of gaining one who won't be ready for another 18 months.

Varcoe, Selwood...Stringer, Menzel

I think the club will see the risk as worth taking if either of these two are still on the table at 16..

 

[froggy32]

Just want to add my opinion on the SA kids.. Watched these kids all year- not just highlights (and it makes a difference) but in order of which kid we need (and what roles we need filling) these are my picks for the 16 spot. 1st Troy Menzel; very very smart footballer, uses body very well for someone his size and works hard to be a target - often out thinks his opponent. Has X factor for sure - hope he slides. If not him, Tim O'Brien - not been mentioned much here - very very underrated but this kid has something and at 194cm he will be a force in the future. Played forward in the champs and backline all year for Glenelg. Easily become a Harry Taylor type - huge upside to this kid, great skills, pace and agility (tested very well) and is a very smart kid and unselfish, I reckon Wells would be really on to this kid. Stop talking up Ben Kennedy - even though he's a ball winner, we have many like him, x factor NOT apparent. also totally overrated is Coluhoun - his skills need a lot of work. I am not discounting the upside of the other boys you have mentioned- I just thought I'd throw my thoughts in about the SA kids

 

[froggy32]

do you think Menzel could slip to 16?

God I hope so, but if recruiters saw what I saw, then probably not. Hope they're put off by the knee thing

 

[Lager]

would you say he is similar to Johnson as a player?
I only watched highlights and read what others have said about him but he looks composed in traffic and he himself said he likens himself to a Pendlebury-type.

Just looks to have it all and couple the added bonus of being able to take a good mark, he could become a very special player if injury does not hurt his career.

I was gona say he reminds me of Pendlebury - maybe a Pendles + SJ lovechild

 

[froggy32]

would you say he is similar to Johnson as a player?
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Well now that I think a bit- he is similiar to Johnson. He has an uncanny knack of putting his opponent on the wrong side and keeping space to run into for himself. Unselfish and not afraid to attack the ball- his defence work is good - accountable for his man. I like the way he uses the ball to make sure the team scores, whether he hands it off or sets someone up - he doesn't always try and do all the goal kicking - very unusual to see in Country Champs as most play a very very selfish brand of game. Pretty sure he was the difference as to SA losing as we didn't have his brains. Think he's very special

 

[meto]

Not the first time we have been linked to Stringer.

I watched Stringer in the Champs and was underwhelmed , he reminded me of the big kid pushing the little kids around like a 15 year old playing under 12's..

Perhaps I was harsh , coming back after injury , serous injury quite often hides a players true ability.Watching him play in some high lights , yes there elements of Hodge but to me he shows similar traits to Kennedy of the Swans , and he has nice kick on the move. The kid is as power as it get as power mid. If Corey is a big strong mid then this kid is his replacement ( in theory )

Sure get his running right he is a top 5 pick , before the leg one could imagine he was a standout but just being in the system for a while will help him get away from just treating his opponents like Balsa wood. He will learn and perhaps just like TomH he will eventually be able to use his natural presence , his natural power at the elite level.

The draw back. Apart from multiple Stringers on the list , I suspect if we do draft him he will be yet another long term player , not one who will make an immediate impact.

All the hoopla is about this bloke, but I think you've got your feet on the ground, if he's got a problem side he'll never be a mid in the big time, and the defensive lines have bigger boys than him if he's played forward.

MacCrae or Menzel are probably superior choices.

 

[Cat Addict]

All the hoopla is about this bloke, but I think you've got your feet on the ground, if he's got a problem side he'll never be a mid in the big time, and the defensive lines have bigger boys than him if he's played forward.

MacCrae or Menzel are probably superior choices.

MacCrae or Menzel will be gone by 16 unfortunatly.

Pick 16 for a potental Jobe Watson type mid is worth it. And whats the hurry about getting guys who can play immediatly, H Mac, Rivers, Caddy can all play this year and you have Varcoe and Menzel returning from injury, don't really have enough spots to play anyone immediatly anyway, all we have is time on our hands.

 

[magicmarker]

Great insight. There's nothing more certain than if all and sundry tip we'll pick up Stringer, Wells will overlook him and choose someone that has never been considered. O'Brien would be a great get I think, I haven't seen him play live but he certainly looks a good tall prospect and the fact he has played in the backline certainly adds to his appeal. I know he has been described as having huge upside, but what are his prospects in the short term? Just thinking that Hamling's bio was pretty similar last year, do we already have enough long term key position prospects??

 

[supahoops]

Agree that we don't need someone ready to roll in rd1, apart from Bews, Eardley, Blicavs and Hamling everyone else on the list should be regarded as ready to play seniors from round one. Out of all clubs we probably have the most players ready to step straight into senior football, a credit to our recruiting and development and a reason I feel we are more suited to risking a Stringer of Menzel of even recruiting another tall with a view to the future post Lonergan..

 

[Strangled Cat]

Stringer looks like a beast of a kid so I'm not surprised that he ran riot through the midfield and bowled other kids over. His mature body meant that he played like a wrecking ball, and combined with a clean bill of health his confidence would have been sky high. My concern with him besides the leg injury is that he could be perhaps another Daniel Rich. Once other kids grow into their bodies it evens things up and closes the gap significantly from U/18's. Don't get me wrong, if we draft him I'd be stoked as I do think he would become a handy player, but if I had my pick I would still say T Menzel all the way.