Resource Geelong Football Club history

[SJ]

Can't you see those pictures? Didn't they upload properly?

No can't see anything and I went to their URLs are they are forbidden. Are they from a Yahoo email account?

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

No can't see anything and I went to their URLs are they are forbidden. Are they from a Yahoo email account?

yes they are from a yahoo e-mail account. I can see them in the thread so i assumed they posted. I'll try to work out how to upload them and try again.

 

[SJ]

yes they are from a yahoo e-mail account. I can see them in the thread so i assumed they posted. I'll try to work out how to upload them and try again.

They aren't posted, they only are for you as you have access to the email and they are in your cache.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

They aren't posted, they only are for you as you have access to the email and they are in your cache.

I've edited my original post and if they didn't upload then i'm stumped.

 

[you pick one]

I've edited my original post and if they didn't upload then i'm stumped.

I see them moondog21

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

I see them moondog21

It's interesting to note how times have changed in football. I remember as a kid if you didn't get to the ground early enough you had to invent your own vantage point, especially against Collingwood, Essendon and Carlton, which most of the time included standing on the top of the rocks Adjacent to the Hickey stand. I also remember one game where i snuck into the old scoreboard on the Moorabool side to watch a game.

 

[RogersResults]

An image from the 1937 GF between Geelong and Collingwood with supporters spilling onto the ground.
How times have changed.



An image of supporters on the Moorabool st wing trying to gain a vantage point.

I see but tiny.
The 37 GF pic is familiar.
The Kardinia Park pic not (at that size anyway). Source? Date?

Back to '37

The Argus 17 Nov. 1937

Prosecution of the Melbourne Cricket Club for alleged breaches of the health regulations on the M.C.G. at the League football grand final was deferred by the Health Commission again yesterday.
In the meantime it was decided to require the club to confer with the commission's engineer to establish a maximum capacity for these several areas of the ground for future guidance.
During the debate the chairman (Dr. H. N. Featonby) said that the members of the M.C.C., a body of honourable leading citizens, were more perturbed with the prospect of a prosecution than fear of a monetary fine.

When it was suggested that reserved tickets be arranged for football finals, the MCC secretary Mr. Trumble responded,

"The issuing of numbered tickets would be most unwieldy, as it would mean that people attending the ground would have to buy tickets."

The capacity of the MCG was given as 84,000.
The attendance in 1937 was recorded as 88,540.
The attendance in 1938 was recorded as 96,486
People didn't use tickets to get in they used crow-bars to rip doors off.

Amateur duffers or the Melbourne establishment not regarding themselves to be under the same laws and rules as the 'common people'?

This went on until all seats became reserved from 1957.

 

[you pick one]

It's interesting to note how times have changed in football. I remember as a kid if you didn't get to the ground early enough you had to invent your own vantage point, especially against Collingwood, Essendon and Carlton, which most of the time included standing on the top of the rocks Adjacent to the Hickey stand. I also remember one game where i snuck into the old scoreboard on the Moorabool side to watch a game.

My favorite spot to watch a game as a kid was from a tree on the bank down the Barwon river end between the old press box and the goal.
Never paid admission till I was probably 17 or 18 always jumped the fence.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

I see but tiny.
The 37 GF pic is familiar.
The Kardinia Park pic not (at that size anyway). Source? Date?

The other picture was taken from a research piece that i've been doing for the last year which involves "the changing game" and was scanned from a photo, hence the size(I'm unsure how to post an increased size of the photo). It was taken from a game involving Geelong and Collingwood in 1988.

I've been in the process of producing something for my kids to look back on in the future, and most recently for others to view when i seen this thread was posted, which will take a while to post on the net in any case.
Unfortuanately i don't have any source links other than books and millions of web pages which i havn't documented. Most of the writings are on my old computers hard drive.

The GFC certainly had an impact in the development and evolution of our great game.


Ps: Sorry about the photo size.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

I was thinking of putting something together in regards to "The History Of The Jumper" which involves a quick resource to every player that has ever worn every jumper number in the history of the Geelong Football Club. It would be a reference i thought might become useful. I've started with number 1.

Present - Mitch Brown
1996-2007- Steven King
1986-1994- Steven Hocking
1978-1985- Malcolm Reed
1964-1975- Wayne Closter
1962 - Stan Harrison
1955-1961- Matt Goggin
1948-1954- Bruce Morrison
1946-1947- Doug Jerram
1944-1945- Jack Butcher
1937-1941- Leo Dean
1936 - Jim Pender
1930-1935- Bill Kuhlken
1926-1929- George Jerram
1923-1925- Arthur Pink
1922 - Alby Bendle
1921 - Bill Bendle
1918-1920- Les Armstrong
1902-1915- Bill Eason
1910-1914- George Haines.

The last 3 on the list wore different numbers between these years and i am unsure of specific dates they wore the number.



I though we could get a database for every number for quick reference as questions are often asked which players wore which number etc, and thought it would be a good idea.
I've got bits and pieces for every other number that i'm trying to accumulate.

If anybody thinks it's a good idea i'll run with it, otherwise i'll keep it for my own reference in a spreadsheet or something similiar.

Thoughts appreciated.

 

[SJ]

That would be brilliant.

 

[RogersResults]

I was thinking of putting something together in regards to "The History Of The Jumper" which involves a quick resource to every player that has ever worn every jumper number in the history of the Geelong Football Club. It would be a reference i thought might become useful. I've started with number 1.

Present - Mitch Brown
1996-2007- Steven King
1986-1994- Steven Hocking
1978-1985- Malcolm Reed
1964-1975- Wayne Closter
1962 - Stan Harrison
1955-1961- Matt Goggin
1948-1954- Bruce Morrison
1946-1947- Doug Jerram
1944-1945- Jack Butcher
1937-1941- Leo Dean
1936 - Jim Pender
1930-1935- Bill Kuhlken
1926-1929- George Jerram
1923-1925- Arthur Pink
1922 - Alby Bendle
1921 - Bill Bendle
1918-1920- Les Armstrong
1902-1915- Bill Eason
1910-1914- George Haines.

The last 3 on the list wore different numbers between these years and i am unsure of specific dates they wore the number.



I though we could get a database for every number for quick reference as questions are often asked which players wore which number etc, and thought it would be a good idea.
I've got bits and pieces for every other number that i'm trying to accumulate.

If anybody thinks it's a good idea i'll run with it, otherwise i'll keep it for my own reference in a spreadsheet or something similiar.

Thoughts appreciated.

I have all the Geelong players numbers already in a database.
I can send you the list. PM me with your email address.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

I have all the Geelong players numbers already in a database.
I can send you the list. PM me with your email address.

Brilliant

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

That would be brilliant.

I thought it would be a good idea i was just unsure if anybody would find it useful.

 

[mct]

Happy to volunteer hosting, domain name and share admin if desired...

 

[RogersResults]

Happy to volunteer hosting, domain name and share admin if desired...

Nothing to stop you downloading the Tiki software and making a start.

Probably needs some sort of get together to organise some sort of a steering committee - Geelong locals would be what I would imagine. Might be an idea to approach the GFC as well.

Blueseum and Demonwiki people might be able to give advice on set up/admin and what role their club plays.

 

[mct]

Nothing to stop you downloading the Tiki software and making a start.

Probably needs some sort of get together to organise some sort of a steering committee - Geelong locals would be what I would imagine. Might be an idea to approach the GFC as well.

Blueseum and Demonwiki people might be able to give advice on set up/admin and what role their club plays.

I'd actually probably opt for a different platform (thinking Screwturn), but in any event would like to be part of something rather than heading off alone into the wild blue yonder!

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

I'd actually probably opt for a different platform (thinking Screwturn), but in any event would like to be part of something rather than heading off alone into the wild blue yonder!

If you or somebody can get things started then i'm happy to contribute.

 

[RogersResults]

Geelong Wiki

Here's a solution that requires no download of software and no hosting costs.

http://www.wikia.com/Wikia

Sample wiki

http://www.americanfootball.wikia.com/wiki/Green_Bay_Packers

(The Packers are the only non-profit, community-owned major league professional sports team in the United States.)

 

[Mantastic]

geelongfootballclub.wikia.com

Something I just set-up now, though just as a trial.

I think it would be great to make a proper wiki with a unique domain name, that everyone agrees on but for now this can be something of a "dry run". Maybe people can spend a bit of time (I'll probably devote a lot of time on the weekend) posting and creating and then we can eventually move stuff over to the proper site.

It's a great idea for a project but boy will it be a lot of work.

 

[Mantastic]

The first part of the project I guess will involve transferring information that already exists on wikipedia (player bio's, grand final info, stadiums, etc.) and then changing the links contained within to the new pages created.

Then after that it can really be crafted into the resource you guys want it to be.

 

[RogersResults]

Pivotonians may find something of interest here:

2012 will see the completion of 116 seasons of competition.


The ‘Four Quarters’ of the League.
Four 29 year periods 1897-1925, 1926-1954, 1955-1983, and 1984- 2012 to be completed this year.

A series of tables attempting to given a snapshot of each team’s performance overall and in the four eras in variety of categories - by individual team and head-to-head.

Full tables starting here. or here

 

[SJ]

http://www.mcc.org.au/News/Publications/~/media/Files/Yorker-Issue 39_Autumn2009_low-res.pdf

The Geelong Football Club remains the second oldest continuous
club in Victoria. The Daily News informed its readers on July 19,
1859: “Pursuant to advertisement, a meeting was held at the Victoria
Hotel last evening for the purpose of forming a Foot-ball Club, and
the Geelong athletes may now congratulate themselves on having an
opportunity for healthy exercise during the winter months.”

The following resolutions were put and carried: “That a Football
Club be formed in Geelong under the style of the Geelong
Foot-ball Club. That the subscription be stated at 2s 6d per
member, subject to alteration. That the rules of the Club be the
same as those of the Melbourne Foot-ball Club. That Mr. Mason
be appointed honorary Secretary and Treasurer. That the fi rst
meeting be held at the Portarlington Hotel, on Saturday next,
sharp two o’clock, when a ball and boundaries will be provided
and that a meeting be then held to consolidate the Club.”

The match took place on July 23 in the open space between
the Corio Cricket Ground and the Portarlington Hotel. “The
attendance of members was very fair. About twenty taking part
in the play”, reported the Daily News of July 25, 1859 which
followed that with the description of two games. The members
adjourned to the Portarlington Hotel for the purpose of appointing
a committee of play, for the admission of new members, and for
receiving subscriptions.

“It was decided and carried that respectable and well-behaved
persons be eligible for admission without reference to social
position.” The Secretary was instructed to write to Melbourne for
copies of the rules of the Melbourne Football Club; also for new
balls etc and the meeting broke up, evidently delighted with the
prospect of whiling away the interval before the cricket season
with such healthful and invigorating exercise.

The Geelong Football Club played intra-club matches then in
July and August. It did not always take happily to playing by
the Melbourne Football Club rules and there were disputes
about running with the ball in the next two football seasons. In
September 1861 Richmond defeated Melbourne, but Geelong,
having defeated Richmond on August 31 as well Melbourne and
South Yarra previously, would fairly claim to be the ‘crack club of
Victoria.’24 The Geelong Advertiser had prophesied: “The Geelong
Football Club will ripen into an institution and fully answer the
purpose for which it has been formed.”25

24 The Geelong Advertiser, September 2, 1861
25 The Geelong Advertiser, July 25, 1859
1866

http://www.mcc.org.au/News/Publications/~/media/Files/Yorker-Issue 39_Autumn2009_low-res.pdf

 

[SJ]

http://www.nsm.org.au/sitecore/cont...s/Library_Fact_Sheet_Rd9_Coll-Geel_210510.pdf

It might have been Barwon
The following is a brief summary of an article by Mark Pennings and Trevor Ruddell which appears in the May 2008 edition of Sporting
Traditions.
• Geelong Football Club, which would develop close links to the town’s establishment, is founded at a meeting at the Victoria Hotel on
July 18, 1859.
• A Saturday half-holiday is introduced in 1865, allowing workers to play sport in the afternoon.
• Barwon Football Club is founded in 1874. It draws its players from the burgeoning working-class area along the river, and is backed
financially by the “nouveau riche” owners of factories in that district.
• Geelong and Barwon meet for the first time in July 1875 as part of the competition for the Geelong, Ballarat and Western District
Challenge Cup, introduced the previous year and awarded to the club with the best record over a two-year period. They play again in
August, the older club being unpleasantly surprised when both games end in draws.
• Barwon supporters invade the ground in protest after a third game in September, incensed by decisions by umpire Tom Wills, who
had previously captained Geelong.
• Barwon adopts a blue and white hooped jumper in 1876. A month later Geelong changes to an almost identical outfit. The Barwon
players are forced to add a pink sash in a match against Geelong, the older club, as holders of the cup, directing them to do so.
• Tom Wills introduces a new challenge cup for the best team of the Western District, as Geelong, under the terms of the competition,
had secured permanent ownership of the previous cup.
• In a match in July 1876, Barwon defends its one goal lead by continually forcing the ball over the boundary line. Although this is not
against the rules, a furious Geelong considers the tactic to be not in “the spirit of the game”. A group of Geelong members meets
hours later, passing a resolution not to play Barwon again “owing to their cowardly conduct today”.
• Barwon and Geelong are founding members of the VFA in 1877. Barwon competes very successfully against teams from Melbourne
and other provincial areas.
• In response to Barwon’s rise, Geelong adopts more professional training, recruiting and playing regimes.
• Geelong agrees to play Barwon in May 1878, the match drawing a crowd of 3000. The much improved older club wins by two goals to
one.
• In September 1878, Barwon hosts Geelong for what would be the last game between the bitter rivals. Geelong completely outclasses
Barwon, which results in a series of brawls breaking out. Eventually members of the crowd join in and the match is ended by a riot.
The fighting continues in the town centre later in the day. Public opinion, led by the Geelong Advertiser, lays blame for the incidents
squarely on the Barwon team and its supporters.
• Barwon begins to struggle financially, its major problems being an inability to secure an enclosed ground like those of Geelong (Corio
Oval) and the Melbourne teams, which means it cannot charge for admission.
• Geelong goes from strength to strength, the 1878 VFA premiership victory being the first of seven in just nine years. Barwon is unable
to compete with such success and disappears from football history.
The authors conclude their article with the following: “Barwon’s tenacious rivalry stung Geelong into action and forced it to move towards
a more professional approach to team management that delivered unprecedented success in the 1880s”.

http://www.nsm.org.au/sitecore/cont...s/Library_Fact_Sheet_Rd9_Coll-Geel_210510.pdf

 

[Partridge]

Maybe CatterLog or Cat-a- pedia?

ex-Graphic Designer. Helped produce local club history of 220+pp. Some HTML, computer skills. May be able to help. Proof reading, etc.
Edit: And returning RR's argument: the Pivots were only unofficially recognised as such during the earlier part of last century. At least "The Cats" is the official motif and much more identifiable to current readers. It would be more accessible to them. It also covers a significant part of our total history, circa late 20's to present.
I take the point that Pivots has a historical connection.
I wonder if Hawthorn banner The Mayflowers in their web site?

hehehehe. (I really hope so!! )

You'd have to acknowledge a past prior to 1961 for that. So very doubtful.