Geelong rorting the system

[hawkman]

Well done Geelong for finding a way to get their coach more money

This isn't a Geelong thing, it is an AFL thing. The AFL slashed the soft cap during Covid and never brought it back close to where it was. Clubs are obviously trying to find creative ways to get more money into their coaching staff when all the AFL need to do is increase the soft cap back in line with how it was heading in 2019

 

[Ricky Vaughn]

Geelong are so far ahead of the rest of the comp. Nobody else is even thinking of rorting the soft cap, and we’re just doing it in everyone’s face.

I understand the jealousy.

 

[Footy Smarts]

Great entertainment this thread.

I particularly like the doggy fans all up in arms about Chris Scott

Chris Scott

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. Took me 15 seconds to find out Luke Beveridge is an adjunct professor at Victoria University and a brand ambassador for Airport Toyota

 

[PhatBoy]

Geelong supporters claim there is no way their club would ever do something even slightly dodgy. Can’t see any issues with a club sponsor, paying a player from another club and as soon as he can he ends up at the other club who already paying him? C’mon.

Nike are a major club sponsor at Sydney. I bet they already individually sponsored guys at other clubs that have come there in the past. Is that a problem?

 

[jonnobackpocket]

Nike are a major club sponsor at Sydney. I bet they already individually sponsored guys at other clubs that have come there in the past. Is that a problem?

You comparing Nike to Cotton On, that’s a problem. Imagine there are probably quite a few, how many times with Cotton On? Sponsors one player in the league who then ends up at Geelong, Geelong supporters quite defensive for something that is just a ridiculous notion apparently.

 

[rye]

There are too many losers on this site.

Elixuh. You desperately need to get a life.

 

[PhatBoy]

You comparing Nike to Cotton On, that’s a problem. Imagine there are probably quite a few, how many times with Cotton On? Sponsors one player in the league who then ends up at Geelong, Geelong supporters quite defensive for something that is just a ridiculous notion apparently.

Does it matter?
Nike are also a much, much, much bigger company, and would have deals with players, advertising deals and ambassadorial roles etc. Sydney eyes one of them: Nike helps it along. What’s the difference.

 

[Jim Prideaux]

They could just be well run?

 

[Xtreme]

Only 4 more portfolios and he's out manoeuvred ScoMo himself.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Does it matter?
Nike are also a much, much, much bigger company, and would have deals with players, advertising deals and ambassadorial roles etc. Sydney eyes one of them: Nike helps it along. What’s the difference.

Lol, you can't see a problem with the Cats-Cotton On-B Smith situation, because a sports brand who sponsors a sports team and sportsmen might do the same thing.

How about just front up and admit it stinks.

 

[PhatBoy]

Lol, you can't see a problem with the Cats-Cotton On-B Smith situation, because a sports brad who sposors a sports team ad sportsmen might do the same thing.

How about just front up and admit it stinks.

Yeah sorry, I’d rather discuss it with people who don’t have voodoo dolls of Jason Snell framed on their wall.

Back to your draft party.

 

[Chronz]

here is the official heirarchy of AFL have's to have-not's, if you're ever wondering why this happened to this club but not that, if you're ever wondering why X got suspended but Y got off, anything and everything, consult the table

Geelong
Melbourne
Collingwood
West Coast
Sydney
Brisbane
Richmond
Hawthorn
Carlton
Bulldogs
Gold Coast
West Sydney
Essendon
North Melbourne
Fremantle
St. Kilda
Adelaide
Port Adelaide

At the very least you still have Kenny doing whatever he does there.

 

[random260]

Geelong are the most dodgy afl club in a very long time.

They should be seen as Manchester city. A club being funded and proped up by evil forces.

Where their wins don't count

 

[Purple Suit]

It's a shame people tend to veer towards the conspiratorial rather than utilizing logic. For mine, if he gets another contract after 2026, and it's a lower value...then we can start talking about 'rorts.' As it stands though, Scott is contracted until 2026, which took place before this latest announcement...long before.

I honestly think it means that he'll be handing over to Rahilly come end of 2026 - and he's already taking steps towards his post-coaching career.

Let's revisit this if/when he gets a new contract. For now, we can't rort the soft cap because his contract is already built in for the next 2 years.

The optics aren't fantastic, but logic dictates that this is an outside venture and doesn't change the current amount being paid by Geelong...as it's already a contractual obligation.

Logic dictates that a head coach has only time for 1 job and 1 hat. Any extra media commitments are on behalf of the club & club sponsors.

Imagine if a politician had a side job consulting with party donors or offering services. It’s a rort the AFL signed off on it but they are worse than any single club.

 

[Freddy Swift]

What experience does Chris Scott

Chris Scott

Age

48

Ht

182cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.6

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.2

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.4

3star

have in finance? Were there any other candidates for the job? Was the position advertised?

Also, in what ways specifically are Geelong a really well run club?


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[Sttew]

Lol, you can't see a problem with the Cats-Cotton On-B Smith situation, because a sports brad who sposors a sports team ad sportsmen might do the same thing.

How about just front up and admit it stinks.

Have a go at Cotton on then...

Smith was out of contract, and before he did his ACL was clearly told he would not be getting the amount of inside mid time he wanted. Then after recovering from his ACL he was told he would not be selected. Who can be surprised he wanted out, and who can be surprised Geelong was interested in the talented midfielder?

The same WB posters who declared WB will be better off without Smith are now crying foul. And old Mediocrity, always quick to join in any anti-Geelong thread, salivating over this one. So predictable!

Loyalty goes both ways.

 

[Strange Cat]

Have a go at Cotton on then...

Smith was out of contract, and before he did his ACL was clearly told he would not be getting the amount of inside mid time he wanted. Then after recovering from his ACL he was told he would not be selected. Who can be surprised he wanted out, and who can be surprised Geelong was interested in the talented midfielder?

The same WB posters who declared WB will be better off without Smith are now crying foul. And old Mediocrity, always quick to join in any anti-Geelong thread, salivating over this one. So predictable!

Loyalty goes both ways.

The same loyalty and respect shown by WB in thanking Macrae and Daniels for their services but ignores Smith’s contribution to the team …yet they sook and complain over his exit

 

[apollo_creed]

Nike are a major club sponsor at Sydney. I bet they already individually sponsored guys at other clubs that have come there in the past. Is that a problem?

Whataboutism mode activated.

 

[PhatBoy]

Whataboutism mode activated.

Well no, it’s not whataboutism because I’m not suggesting Sydney are doing anything wrong, am I. It happens. Players are sponsored and so are clubs.

 

[simba_]

Geelong are the most dodgy afl club in a very long time.

They should be seen as Manchester city. A club being funded and proped up by evil forces.

Where their wins don't count

and the teams were on drugs just like the managers when they played

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Have a go at Cotton on then...

Smith was out of contract, and before he did his ACL was clearly told he would not be getting the amount of inside mid time he wanted. Then after recovering from his ACL he was told he would not be selected. Who can be surprised he wanted out, and who can be surprised Geelong was interested in the talented midfielder?

The same WB posters who declared WB will be better off without Smith are now crying foul. And old Mediocrity, always quick to join in any anti-Geelong thread, salivating over this one. So predictable!

Loyalty goes both ways.

Uncontracted 26yo Liam Baker gets Richmond a pick that will end up around 16.

Ucontracted 24yo Bailey Smith gets Bulldogs a pick that will end up around 20 with a tiny rd 2 upgrade, maybe making the whole transaction worth about pick 19.

If Geelong paid a fair price for him, and there wasn't the spectre of Cotton On making payments to Smith on Geelong's behalf, then no problem. But neither of those conditions have been met. So we can understand why Bulldogs would be annoyed and why the rest of the competition is looking on saying wtf is happening here, this is a bit of a game changer.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I think you're all missing the dodgiest link. Smith clearly getting paid here in untraceable grimace coin

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Tax evasion thrown into the mix now too!

 

[Sttew]

Uncontracted 26yo Liam Baker gets Richmond a pick that will end up around 16.

Ucontracted 24yo Bailey Smith gets Bulldogs a pick that will end up around 20 with a tiny rd 2 upgrade, maybe making the whole transaction worth about pick 19.

If Geelong paid a fair price for him, and there wasn't the spectre of Cotton On making payments to Smith on Geelong's behalf, then no problem. But neither of those conditions have been met. So we can understand why Bulldogs would be annoyed and why the rest of the competition is looking on saying wtf is happening here, this is a bit of a game changer.

Two completely different scenarios and you know it. But why let the facts get in the way of a Medicority yarn?

Wasn't Baker an unrestricted free agent?

 

[iameviljez]

Logic dictates that a head coach has only time for 1 job and 1 hat. Any extra media commitments are on behalf of the club & club sponsors.

Imagine if a politician had a side job consulting with party donors or offering services. It’s a rort the AFL signed off on it but they are worse than any single club.

It brings to mind the Secret Herbs and Spices for compo: what exactly is the AFL's criteria for this shit?

It would be far easier to just have a blanket rule: no new payments from sponsors to players or other members of their household, barring pre-existing arrangements prior to recruitment, or full-time jobs.

No 'brand ambassador' bullshit. No throwing money at your wife to plug shit on Instagram.

 

[iameviljez]

Uncontracted 26yo Liam Baker gets Richmond a pick that will end up around 16.

Ucontracted 24yo Bailey Smith gets Bulldogs a pick that will end up around 20 with a tiny rd 2 upgrade, maybe making the whole transaction worth about pick 19.

If Geelong paid a fair price for him

Just because West Coast decided Liam Baker was worth p16, doesn't mean we're obligated to throw extra to the Dogs.