Banter Geelong V Richmond - GO!

[Wosh]

In the interests of keeping your back and forth shite fights out of match threads so normal people can talk.

Keep it clean and above the shorts
Off topic rubbish clogging up match threads will be moved here, knock yourselves out.

 

[Cleansweep17]

Our forward line of utter trash:

2 norm smith medalists
1 Coleman medalist
11 All Australian guernseys.

I can add in the Brownlow medalist and 2 time all Australian and Norm Smith medalist who spent a grand final at half-forward if you like.

Or the 6 time all Australian who started a grand final at half forward.

Do you want me to add them in? I can if you want.
I’ll add them in.

1 Brownlow medal.
3 norm smith medals.
19 all Australian guernseys.
1 Coleman medalist.


Yeah we were trash but. We just always had trouble kicking a winning score.

That’s the thing that stands out when I think back to then. Just how much we struggled to score.
Defence was usually ok, we were alright in the middle but we could just never find a way to convert it into points.

Especially against teams like Richmond. I have no memory of any games against them where we kicked big scores around that time.

I just joking man chill. They were good, but I do think ours was a touch better due to the better KPF combo.

 

[PhatBoy]

Yes sorry I forgot your best ruckman is also a spud.

And your defenders couldn’t stop an obese man coming back from retirement.

This was your best team btw. Very poor

And your best team lost to a blind halfwit from America. At least the fat c**t that beat us knew the rules of the game and had won a premiership before.

The bloke who beat your best side knew as much about football as you know about life beyond your parents basement and still somehow managed to pull Richmond’s pants down and forgot the lube


Very poor.

 

[PhatBoy]

I just joking man chill. They were good, but I do think ours was a touch better due to the better KPF combo.

Translation: I forgot about all of this

 

[Mr Meow]

Riewoldt is a 3x Coleman medalist and 12x leading goal kicker.

Lynch is also better than Mooney.

That Cats side doesn’t even have as good a fwd line as 2024 Carlton. So take a seat.

Unfortunately during the actual dynasties Mooney's averages come out better. And that was his only time as a permanent forward. I know it's annoying, but it's just the way it is.

 

[Mr Meow]

Translation: I forgot about all of this

Translation is he actually didn't even watch the 2007-2011 Geelong side. He goes to afltables, makes some awful guesses and then gets ridiculed for them.

 

[Cleansweep17]

Translation: I forgot about all of this

You don’t know how to lighten up. Relax

 

[Cleansweep17]

And your best team lost to a blind halfwit from America. At least the fat c**t that beat us knew the rules of the game and had won a premiership before.

The bloke who beat your best side knew as much about football as you know about life beyond your parents basement and still somehow managed to pull Richmond’s pants down and forgot the lube


Very poor.

Mason Cox would destroy you backline. They were short people.

 

[Cleansweep17]

Translation is he actually didn't even watch the 2007-2011 Geelong side. He goes to afltables, makes some awful guesses and then gets ridiculed for them.

You really don’t like me do you. I’m not even being serious

 

[TheCattery2007]

Cats midfield won’t be competitive enough across the season for top 4.

Still have their star match winners and the defence is relatively settled and well drilled, thinking 5-12 depending on injuries.

Not a team I’d want to face in an elimination final.

Cats midfield is no good isn’t consistent with the 2022 evidence. They didn’t win the clearances in their premiership year.

Only Selwood on his last legs is gone from the 2022 Premiership midfield. Cam Guthrie needs to come back from injury but Bowes, Bruhn and Clark are more than adequate replacements for Selwood.


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[PhatBoy]

Mason Cox would destroy you backline. They were short people.

Well we never seemed to have a tremendous amount of trouble with Aaron Sandilands who was the same height as Mason Cox with the added bonus that he was among the greatest actual ruckman of the modern game and understood the rules of it when he was thrown forward against us.

 

[Mr Meow]

You really don’t like me do you. I’m not even being serious

I just don't see the point of making things up that you have no idea about.

It would be like if I had a bizarre obsession with downgrading Essendon and Hawthorn players from the early 80s. Or had an intense fascination with diminishing Malcolm Blight's VFL career.

I really don't understand the obsession. I at least understand the chest beating - even if it is pathetic - comparing 2017-2020 Tigers and Cats players. It was the one good time in your life to be a Richmond supporter.

Why it extends to pretending to be an expert on 2007 Geelong, or 90s era AFL - it's just weird.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Cats midfield is no good isn’t consistent with the 2022 evidence. They didn’t win the clearances in their premiership year.

Only Selwood on his last legs is gone from the 2022 Premiership midfield. Cam Guthrie needs to come back from injury but Bowes, Bruhn and Clark are more than adequate replacements for Selwood.


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I know you don’t truely believe that. The Cats midfield would be the weakest of the top 4 contenders and by a long way. Dare I say one of the weakest midfield groups in the competition.

 

[Mr Meow]

I know you don’t truely believe that. The Cats midfield would be the weakest of the top 4 contenders and by a long way. Dare I say one of the weakest midfield groups in the competition.

Believe it or not it performed okay at full strength last season.

The issue was Dangerfield was missing or crocked for half the year, then Guthrie, Holmes, Duncan, Blicavs and Stanley missed overlapping chunks.

It completely fell apart when it was down to Ceglar tapping it to Atkins, Bruhn and just one of the aforementioned names.

Now you can rightly say "there's a good chance the older cohort struggle for availability again" - we're already missing Guthrie - but without further loss of midfielders/rucks I'd say it'll be competitive enough.

 

[Jeremias]

lol, that’s quite good. Touché

It was a genuine question. I’ll follow it up with another.

If the Cats will regain their place in the top 8 which they lost because they were “smashed by injury last year”, why are other sides not afforded the same thought process?

Or will Geelong’s injury issues magically disappear, whilst every other club holds consistent, if not gets worse?

Look I like Geelong and think they’re every chance of making finals in 2024, and I certainly think they’re finishing above Richmond, but I have no idea how you can be so confident that they’ll be playing finals.

There’s a massive group of teams all fighting it out for spots in the lower half of the 8. Geelong are firmly entrenched in that group IMO.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Believe it or not it performed okay at full strength last season.

The issue was Dangerfield was missing or crocked for half the year, then Guthrie, Holmes, Duncan, Blicavs and Stanley missed overlapping chunks.

It completely fell apart when it was down to Ceglar tapping it to Atkins, Bruhn and just one of the aforementioned names.

Now you can rightly say "there's a good chance the older cohort struggle for availability again" - we're already missing Guthrie - but without further loss of midfielders/rucks I'd say it'll be competitive enough.

Yeah maybe with everyone fit and firing the Cats midfield will stack up. But I doubt it will happen consistently enough over 24 rounds especially being an older group. But it is why I give them a big chance of causing some upsets at the pointy end of the season.

I think Scott himself would admit it’s a bit of a transition year for your midfield. Bruhn, Bowes and Clark will get a good share of centre bounces and imo they are a few years off competing with the best. Maybe they will prove everyone wrong as the Cats seem to always do.

 

[Catastrophe!]

I know you don’t truely believe that. The Cats midfield would be the weakest of the top 4 contenders and by a long way. Dare I say one of the weakest midfield groups in the competition.

I find this comment interesting, because right now, your midfield isn't crash hot either.

If you compare losing Walsh to C. Guthrie, and I. Smith retiring last year to losing Doch this year before the season has gotten underway, your current midfield stands as:

Cripps
Hewett
Cerra
M. Kennedy
J. Carroll
O. Hollands
Acres
S. Walsh

VS

Dangerfield
Duncan
Blicavs
T. Atkins
Holmes
Bruhn
J. Clark
Bowes
C. Guthrie

******

You add in Walsh to your side and C. Guthrie to ours after say Round 6, and you end up with a half decent midfield that replaces I. Smith with Holmes, and Selwood with Jhye, Bruhn and Bowes, from our Premiership midfield.

It's not perfect, but it's not exactly panic stations either - as I imagine it wouldn't be for you guys.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

I find this comment interesting, because right now, your midfield isn't crash hot either.

If you compare losing Walsh to C. Guthrie, and I. Smith retiring last year to losing Doch this year before the season has gotten underway, your current midfield stands as:

Cripps
Hewett
Cerra
M. Kennedy
J. Carroll
O. Hollands
Acres
S. Walsh

VS

Dangerfield
Duncan
Blicavs
T. Atkins
Holmes
Bruhn
J. Clark
Bowes
C. Guthrie

******

You add in Walsh to your side and C. Guthrie to ours after say Round 6, and you end up with a half decent midfield that replaces I. Smith with Holmes, and Selwood with Jhye, Bruhn and Bowes, from our Premiership midfield.

It's not perfect, but it's not exactly panic stations either - as I imagine it wouldn't be for you guys.

I would agree our midfield is quite vulnerable right now, but even then I don’t think the Cats have anyone on the level of Cripps or Cerra unless Danger decides to wind back the clock. Blicavs is elite but not in the same mould. The Cats are quite even and deep but would be putting a lot of faith into Clark who has played 1 game and Bowes who has never been more than a bottom 6 player in his 7 year career.

At full strength I do rate the Cats but that rarely happens for any team throughout the home and away.

 

[Footy Smarts]

I know you don’t truely believe that. The Cats midfield would be the weakest of the top 4 contenders and by a long way. Dare I say one of the weakest midfield groups in the competition.

That's the worry. Realistically with our forward line and defence we'll win most matches if we break even in midfield. But the midfield right now looks weak.

If Guthrie gets fit that's a huge difference. He's was clearly our best mid from 2020-2022. Absolutely no certainty of that happening though.

The other huge difference is if Holmes or Bruhn have break out years. They're first round draft picks with 50-odd games under their belts going into their 4th season. That's when talented players tend to break out (see Will Day last year for example). If one of them becomes an A grader again it'll be a huge difference.

If those 2 things happen our midfield will be at least mid table which is all it was in 2022 and we will be a very good side. Neither happen and our midfield is arguably the worst in the comp and we'll miss the 8.

 

[Catastrophe!]

It was a genuine question. I’ll follow it up with another.

If the Cats will regain their place in the top 8 which they lost because they were “smashed by injury last year”, why are other sides not afforded the same thought process?

Or will Geelong’s injury issues magically disappear, whilst every other club holds consistent, if not gets worse?

Look I like Geelong and think they’re every chance of making finals in 2024, and I certainly think they’re finishing above Richmond, but I have no idea how you can be so confident that they’ll be playing finals.

There’s a massive group of teams all fighting it out for spots in the lower half of the 8. Geelong are firmly entrenched in that group IMO.

To be fair, we had some absurd injury issues last year.

SDK - broken face
Jez - concussed/injured by his own teammate
Stengle - broken arm
C. Guthrie - infinite toe issues
J. Clark - navicular and out for the year after 1/4 playing
Danger - broken rib/collapsed lung
Holmes - knee surgery
J. Henry - infinite foot issues
Stanley - fractured eye socket

Everything last year wasn't just your run of the mill soft tissue injuries, it was long term injury after long term injury. Some of them were freakish, some of them were just frustrating. Many joked on our board that we made a deal with Lazarus to keep ourselves fit the previous year - and were being paid back in kind in 2023. If we avoid even half of that, we could have a half decent year.

 

[Cleansweep17]

I just don't see the point of making things up that you have no idea about.

It would be like if I had a bizarre obsession with downgrading Essendon and Hawthorn players from the early 80s. Or had an intense fascination with diminishing Malcolm Blight's VFL career.

I really don't understand the obsession. I at least understand the chest beating - even if it is pathetic - comparing 2017-2020 Tigers and Cats players. It was the one good time in your life to be a Richmond supporter.

Why it extends to pretending to be an expert on 2007 Geelong, or 90s era AFL - it's just weird.

We achieved more than you so. Who cares.

We got the closest to a 4peat out of all the 21 century dynasties with

You can have the pub talk all you like

 

[PhatBoy]

We achieved more than you so. Who cares.

We got the closest to a 4peat out of all the 21 century dynasties with

You can have the pub talk all you like

Lollllllllllllllllllll

No you didn’t.

 

[BloodRet]

both washed who cares let the big boys play by themselves

 

[Cleansweep17]

Lollllllllllllllllllll

No you didn’t.

That’s closer to the 4peat buddy. You were way off.

 

[Catastrophe!]

Lollllllllllllllllllll

No you didn’t.

I mean the idiot is too stupid to realize that:

The Hawks went

Runner up
Flag
Flag
Flag

The Lions went

Flag
Flag
Flag
Runner up

*****

It's so cute how his Richmond bias spins everything in his team's favour...even when the evidence directly refutes it.

Grade A dipsh*t who tries to sound smart, but is just annoying and has no idea what he's talking about most of the time.

Also thinks that a dynasty is somehow defined by going back to back, when multiple world criteria define it as '3 in 5 titles', plus a 'sustained run of Finals appearances over 5 years or more.' Technically given they bombed out in 2021 finishing 12th, they don't actually qualify as a dynasty given that criteria. I don't see it that way, but it is kinda funny given all his ridiculous posturing.

Must be tough to know that 37 years in the wilderness was accompanied by 4 good years...and nothing since.

Gale has left
Peggy has left
Cotchin is gone
Dusty likely goes
Hardwick jumped ship
Macrae at another club winning flags
Kingsley at another club winning finals

4 years they had. We've had sustained success and a shot at the flag nearly every year since 2007. History will remember us as one of the greatest sustained sides of the 21st century that won 4 flags and made 6 Grand Finals, whilst competing for Finals every single year for 15 years bar one. It will remember Richmond as a great side for 4 years that won 3 flags. It's not even comparable.

 

[Catastrophe!]

both washed who cares let the big boys play by themselves

Lol you might want to win something before you get on your big boy pants like that. Last chance you had you basically didn't even show up.