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BigFrizz36 said:
You are not getting too many free agents under the salary cap if you are offering the likes of Perryman close to $900k per year.
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You don't need stars every year. If they can replace Pendlebury with a Moneyball type free agent similar in the way that we've added the likes of Acres, Hewett and more recently Haynes that'll do them nicely.

Mids who can contribute at an effective but not superstar level are a dime a dozen.
 
Wickzki said:
You don't need stars every year. If they can replace Pendlebury with a Moneyball type free agent similar in the way that we've added the likes of Acres, Hewett and more recently Haynes that'll do them nicely.

Mids who can contribute at an effective but not superstar level are a dime a dozen.
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The likes of Acres, Hewitt are only as valuable as the pieces around them. Hewitt works because of Walsh, Acres, Cerra, Hollands, Boyd, Cottrell providing defensive running he's not fast enough to do. Acres works because of Cerra, Boyd, JSOS, Newman, McGovern providing precision kicking that he cannot do.

Geelong top up only with the elite. Danger, Cameron, Smith; hell, even Tuohy was undervalued with us and - when promoted into Doc's role - performed much better in the lead than he did as just part of the cast. Geelong's system allows them to get in blokes in their dottage because they only ever target the very best, developing the role and bit part players around those holes, and they're STILL always only two poor decisions away from a bad time.

You want a better case study, look at North in the 2010's. Old and getting older, trying to stave off father time by picking up offshoots over 30. Higgins, Waite; there was a year to four where they just kept putting off that cliff.

Where are Nth right now?

While I agree Collingwood have a loyal bunch who could stagger their retirements, there's only so much you can give onfield when the motivation's gone and there's only so much you can do by staggering the retirements of a good half your first 22.
 
Wickzki said:
You don't need stars every year. If they can replace Pendlebury with a Moneyball type free agent similar in the way that we've added the likes of Acres, Hewett and more recently Haynes that'll do them nicely.

Mids who can contribute at an effective but not superstar level are a dime a dozen.
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I think you're underestimating how much they relied on big performances from Pendlebury, Sidebottom, Mitchell, Howe and Crisp to win the flag. They turned back the clock, and fluked the win by less than a kick.
Those guys dropped off a bit, and the Filth missed the 8.
 

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Stamos said:
I think you're underestimating how much they relied on big performances from Pendlebury, Sidebottom, Mitchell, Howe and Crisp to win the flag. They turned back the clock, and fluked the win by less than a kick.
Those guys dropped off a bit, and the Filth missed the 8.
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A team that is the clear number 1 team all year, finishes top, wins all their finals, then wins the premiership, doesnt fluke it.

Those guys had a great year, the team peaked and played great, as you said they dropped off and so did the team, but that doesn’t make it a fluke, they missed the GF by a point the year before.
 
DangerousD said:
A team that is the clear number 1 team all year, finishes top, wins all their finals, then wins the premiership, doesnt fluke it.

Those guys had a great year, the team peaked and played great, as you said they dropped off and so did the team, but that doesn’t make it a fluke, they missed the GF by a point the year before.
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When you get an armchair ride in a prelim and win it by a single point, and back it up a week later kicking 2 after-the-siren goals to win by 4 points, it's a fluke.
A single umpiring decision across 2 weeks and they are not premiers.
 
Stamos said:
When you get an armchair ride in a prelim and win it by a single point, and back it up a week later kicking 2 after-the-siren goals to win by 4 points, it's a fluke.
A single umpiring decision across 2 weeks and they are not premiers.
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They are opinions based on bias.

The facts are, they finished top, won all their finals and won the premiership.
 
7news.com.au

Chris Scott accepts new job after finals exit: ‘I am honoured’

The Geelong premiership coach has taken a role in finance with the club’s blessing.
7news.com.au 7news.com.au

Geelong senior coach Chris Scott has been announced as chief of leadership and performance at Morris Finance.

Morris, which is a major sponsor of Geelong, announced the newly created role was being filled by Scott, whose main priority will remain coaching the Cats.
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This gets counted in the soft cap, right...?
 
Navy Blues 73 said:
Is 'Morris Finance ' a division of Cotton On?
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A division of Shonky Deals Pty Ltd iirc.

How do I loathe thee Cats
Let me count your crooked ways.
 

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Styxx said:
I legitimate have the hope it isn't mental health, did he screw up? Yes but I get the feeling he was never forgiven and that can play with the mind.
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Think it would be more of a mutual departure. Know a few of his highschool friends from cricket and everything I ever heard about him was just him being a complete twit off the field who got by on natural talent. Would eat McDonald's during the week, Dominos pizzas before the game, skipped on recovery etc.

Could be something else but the Pies did boot him for good reason after showing plenty of talent in his first couple years.
 
marcmurphy3 said:
Ollie Hotton delisted after 2 seasons. I remember how popular he was on here during his drafting year. Some brutal delistings this off-season.
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Apparently, there was a lack of fitness at the start of the year. Has had injuries. Named in starvation corner much of the time but I haven't seen the games. Did kick 5 in one game this year.

Is he worth a second look? Is this a reflection on the durability and/or fitness of the Hotton brothers period, or just Olli?
 
Ollie Hotton dealt with ongoing ankle injuries as well as stress fracture in his back since drafted, could be a case of these setbacks not allowing him to get his body to the required level of overall strength and conditioning…

#29 Burgiel and #35 Hotton were two players i hoped were on our draft list within our second round selections, #30 Cowan and #32 Binns were selected, would welcome both down to the club to train on over the preseason, provided there were no obvious long term doubts or concerns…

If we want to improve and strengthen our VFL squad, particularly with midfield and forward qualities/speed which is very much needed, we could do no wrong in developing one or both with the potential if all goes well, possibly a money ball hit…

Both only 20 years old
 
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WalshistheGOAT said:
Think it would be more of a mutual departure. Know a few of his highschool friends from cricket and everything I ever heard about him was just him being a complete twit off the field who got by on natural talent. Would eat McDonald's during the week, Dominos pizzas before the game, skipped on recovery etc.

Could be something else but the Pies did boot him for good reason after showing plenty of talent in his first couple years.
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Just checking if this is ok for the normal person?

Asking for a friend...
 

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