No Oppo Supporters General AFL Discussion #13 - Carlton Posters ONLY!

[Wickzki]

You are not getting too many free agents under the salary cap if you are offering the likes of Perryman close to $900k per year.

You don't need stars every year. If they can replace Pendlebury with a Moneyball type free agent similar in the way that we've added the likes of Acres, Hewett and more recently Haynes that'll do them nicely.

Mids who can contribute at an effective but not superstar level are a dime a dozen.

 

[Gethelred]

You don't need stars every year. If they can replace Pendlebury with a Moneyball type free agent similar in the way that we've added the likes of Acres, Hewett and more recently Haynes that'll do them nicely.

Mids who can contribute at an effective but not superstar level are a dime a dozen.

The likes of Acres, Hewitt are only as valuable as the pieces around them. Hewitt works because of Walsh, Acres, Cerra, Hollands, Boyd, Cottrell providing defensive running he's not fast enough to do. Acres works because of Cerra, Boyd, JSOS, Newman, McGovern providing precision kicking that he cannot do.

Geelong top up only with the elite. Danger, Cameron, Smith; hell, even Tuohy was undervalued with us and - when promoted into Doc's role - performed much better in the lead than he did as just part of the cast. Geelong's system allows them to get in blokes in their dottage because they only ever target the very best, developing the role and bit part players around those holes, and they're STILL always only two poor decisions away from a bad time.

You want a better case study, look at North in the 2010's. Old and getting older, trying to stave off father time by picking up offshoots over 30. Higgins, Waite; there was a year to four where they just kept putting off that cliff.

Where are Nth right now?

While I agree Collingwood have a loyal bunch who could stagger their retirements, there's only so much you can give onfield when the motivation's gone and there's only so much you can do by staggering the retirements of a good half your first 22.

 

[Stamos]

You don't need stars every year. If they can replace Pendlebury with a Moneyball type free agent similar in the way that we've added the likes of Acres, Hewett and more recently Haynes that'll do them nicely.

Mids who can contribute at an effective but not superstar level are a dime a dozen.

I think you're underestimating how much they relied on big performances from Pendlebury, Sidebottom, Mitchell, Howe and Crisp to win the flag. They turned back the clock, and fluked the win by less than a kick.
Those guys dropped off a bit, and the Filth missed the 8.

 

[DangerousD]

I think you're underestimating how much they relied on big performances from Pendlebury, Sidebottom, Mitchell, Howe and Crisp to win the flag. They turned back the clock, and fluked the win by less than a kick.
Those guys dropped off a bit, and the Filth missed the 8.

A team that is the clear number 1 team all year, finishes top, wins all their finals, then wins the premiership, doesnt fluke it.

Those guys had a great year, the team peaked and played great, as you said they dropped off and so did the team, but that doesn’t make it a fluke, they missed the GF by a point the year before.

 

[Stamos]

A team that is the clear number 1 team all year, finishes top, wins all their finals, then wins the premiership, doesnt fluke it.

Those guys had a great year, the team peaked and played great, as you said they dropped off and so did the team, but that doesn’t make it a fluke, they missed the GF by a point the year before.

When you get an armchair ride in a prelim and win it by a single point, and back it up a week later kicking 2 after-the-siren goals to win by 4 points, it's a fluke.
A single umpiring decision across 2 weeks and they are not premiers.

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

I have a question.

How on earth are Hawthorn 2nd favorites for next year's flag???

Am I missing something???

Barass the most overrated player in football with his 13 games a season.

 

[DangerousD]

When you get an armchair ride in a prelim and win it by a single point, and back it up a week later kicking 2 after-the-siren goals to win by 4 points, it's a fluke.
A single umpiring decision across 2 weeks and they are not premiers.

They are opinions based on bias.

The facts are, they finished top, won all their finals and won the premiership.

 

[Stamos]

They are opinions based on bias.

The facts are, they finished top, won all their finals and won the premiership.

They did, and were very, very lucky to do so.