No Oppo Supporters General AFL Discussion #13 - Carlton Posters ONLY!

[Jatz]

Rohan and Parfitt (amongst others) delisted from the Cattery.

Would've thought Rohan would've retired rather then be delisted. Surely no one else is picking him up?

 

[Aphrodite]

Good one Mitch

 

[ctwenty1]

No, about Luke Darcy?

Quiting media I believe

 

[no. 4]

Quiting media I believe

He must be ready to make the jump into politics. The Libs have been chasing him for years.

 

[ctwenty1]

He must be ready to make the jump into politics. The Libs have been chasing him for years.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/bombshell-as-channel-7-commentator-luke-darcy-quits-the-media/news-story/fe0f1897f9bd282e2fa3e75b6126d3c4

Must be more in the future for Luke as you say

 

[BigFrizz36]

Quiting media I believe

Probably wouldn't be keen to work with Kane Cornes one would think.

 

[BigFrizz36]

Probably wouldn't be keen to work with Kane Cornes one would think.

If Kane moving to 7 gets Darcy to quit is there anybody that B.T. hates that we could get to move over and get him to quit?

 

[ctwenty1]

If Kane moving to 7 gets Darcy to quit is there anybody that B.T. hates that we could get to move over and get him to quit?

Any competent commentator would do

 

[BlueTongue]

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/bombshell-as-channel-7-commentator-luke-darcy-quits-the-media/news-story/fe0f1897f9bd282e2fa3e75b6126d3c4

Must be more in the future for Luke as you say

Probably wouldn't be keen to work with Kane Cornes one would think.

TBH, I loved Darcy as a player, but he's a prize winning knob now. Can't stand him as a commentator.
Mr Wholesome. Good luck to him if he is that clean living as his 'House of Wellness' persona (I swear this isn't tall poppy) but I think Corne is probably a bit more honest.

 

[ctwenty1]

TBH, I loved Darcy as a player, but he's a prize winning knob now. Can't stand him as a commentator.
Mr Wholesome. Good luck to him if he is that clean living as his 'House of Wellness' persona (I swear this isn't tall poppy) but I think Corne is probably a bit more honest.

At the end of the day I watch for th footy

Media are somewhat peripheral and the competency bar is low because love for the game is strong

That said, good luck for him in his future endeavors

 

[FlowersByIrene]

At the end of the day I watch for th footy

Media are somewhat peripheral and the competency bar is low because love for the game is strong

That said, good luck for him in his future endeavors

I do think we are particular malnourished in terms of commentating ability since Commetti exited though.

I mean look to the EPL and some of the absolutely iconic monologues their commentators put out that earn second lives as memes, voice overs or inspirational quotes due to how impassioned and honest they are (you will have likely seen them such as the infamous "pressure, what pressure" monologue). We don't get anything near that level of honest love and passion for game, vulnerability in saying - this is a spectacle, and I want to impart on it the spectacle it deserves. I know we Australia's don't like to take ourselves too seriously and I think there is a place for the larrikin MMM style commentating, but I wish our commentators were more eloquent and brave than what we have today.

 

[BigFrizz36]

I do think we are particular malnourished in terms of commentating ability since Commetti exited though.

I mean look to the EPL and some of the absolutely iconic monologues their commentators put out that earn second lives as memes, voice overs or inspirational quotes due to how impassioned and honest they are (you will have likely seen them such as the infamous "pressure, what pressure" monologue). We don't get anything near that level of honest love and passion for game, vulnerability in saying - this is a spectacle, and I want to impart on it the spectacle it deserves. I know we Australia's don't like to take ourselves too seriously and I think there is a place for the larrikin MMM style commentating, but I wish our commentators were more eloquent and brave than what we have today.

There some really good ones around (Jason Bennett, Alastair Nicholson, Matt Hill) but for whatever reason the powers that be believe that we deserve the histrionics of B.T and J.B etc.

 

[BigFrizz36]

Chris Fagan wins coach of the year as voted on by the coaches.

David King quietly sulks in the corner.

 

[Benaly28]

Interesting article from champion data on SEN app re the reliance on star players,very insightful.


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[branedotorg]

Quiting media I believe

**** manifesting does work

 

[katmanblue]

Any competent commentator would do

BT wouldn't know the difference.

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[BigFrizz36]

BT wouldn't know the difference.

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Still irks me so much that after our incredible win in the semi last year against the Dees in front of 93,000 people going off their heads that B.T. is yelling "the dees have gone out in straight sets again".

Yeah that was what really mattered then!!!

 

[Gethelred]

While I don't think it's tremendously far away from who he is away from it, BT's persona as part of Ch.7's coverage is a strategy that has been deliberately adopted by the people running 7's coverage. To treat him as the problem is somewhat to miss the point: he's that way because someone has chosen him to behave that way, has centred him and this side of him to their coverage.

Pretty sure after Ch.9 stopped broadcasting the cricket - after the coverage was decried for years on end as being stale and overly blokey, centred as it was around similarly developed 'characters' in Michael Slater, Ian Healy - the bloke who ran - Brad McNamara - it was immediately employed as part of Ch.7's footy coverage. Over the next few seasons, they pivoted from nostalgia being the remit - Dennis Commetti and Bruce McAvaney, Richo, Darcy, Riewoldt - to wacky, larger than life characters. BT came in, and his attitudes became the focal point; him travelling round the changerooms after a match began.

It's built around a parasocial model, and it is - to no small extent - working. It's perfect for short form coverage like tiktok or youtube, it provides moment to moment opinions for the landscape to discuss at length, it allows the audience to attach to Ch.7's coverage in a way that will bear fruit going forward. They can't beat Fox for talent or nostalgia purposes; they can't beat written word formats or online spaces for analysis or insight. What they can do is try and develop a familiarity between the audience watching the game and the contrived foibles of their star special comments person, and hope over time that they become, essentially, part of the furniture; so essential to a gameday experience that people tune in specifically for him. Where this brings dividends is in the future when people see BT as a kind of walking meme; someone with instant face and name recognition, someone whose reactions to things are part of the entertainment.

He is, in essence, the Truman show for football.

How you prevent it, I don't know. There's only a limited number of ways to consume this sport, and most of them are rigidly controlled by the AFL; nostalgia, providing jobs for the boys (ex players, people in and around the establishment with a connection or two) and this kind of chicanery is their wheelhouse. It's sufficiently offputting that it might prompt one to abandon support of the AFL, because that's the only real way to get away from slightly different flavours of the same gruel.

It's a problem for the fans that is not easy to navigate, other than simply to earn enough money to attend matches when and wherever they are.

 

[teagueyubeauty]

It’ll be easy next year, I’ll be switching to foxtel and watching with their commentators

Seems channel 7 have also recognised issues as they’re poaching a few at the moment, especially from Channel 9


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[Stamos]

While I don't think it's tremendously far away from who he is away from it, BT's persona as part of Ch.7's coverage is a strategy that has been deliberately adopted by the people running 7's coverage. To treat him as the problem is somewhat to miss the point: he's that way because someone has chosen him to behave that way, has centred him and this side of him to their coverage.

Pretty sure after Ch.9 stopped broadcasting the cricket - after the coverage was decried for years on end as being stale and overly blokey, centred as it was around similarly developed 'characters' in Michael Slater, Ian Healy - the bloke who ran - Brad McNamara - it was immediately employed as part of Ch.7's footy coverage. Over the next few seasons, they pivoted from nostalgia being the remit - Dennis Commetti and Bruce McAvaney, Richo, Darcy, Riewoldt - to wacky, larger than life characters. BT came in, and his attitudes became the focal point; him travelling round the changerooms after a match began.

It's built around a parasocial model, and it is - to no small extent - working. It's perfect for short form coverage like tiktok or youtube, it provides moment to moment opinions for the landscape to discuss at length, it allows the audience to attach to Ch.7's coverage in a way that will bear fruit going forward. They can't beat Fox for talent or nostalgia purposes; they can't beat written word formats or online spaces for analysis or insight. What they can do is try and develop a familiarity between the audience watching the game and the contrived foibles of their star special comments person, and hope over time that they become, essentially, part of the furniture; so essential to a gameday experience that people tune in specifically for him. Where this brings dividends is in the future when people see BT as a kind of walking meme; someone with instant face and name recognition, someone whose reactions to things are part of the entertainment.

He is, in essence, the Truman show for football.

How you prevent it, I don't know. There's only a limited number of ways to consume this sport, and most of them are rigidly controlled by the AFL; nostalgia, providing jobs for the boys (ex players, people in and around the establishment with a connection or two) and this kind of chicanery is their wheelhouse. It's sufficiently offputting that it might prompt one to abandon support of the AFL, because that's the only real way to get away from slightly different flavours of the same gruel.

It's a problem for the fans that is not easy to navigate, other than simply to earn enough money to attend matches when and wherever they are.

BT is absolutely appalling, but you’re right, it’s 7 that is the problem.
You just have to compare the work of Hodge and Ling on the radio to how they are on 7.

 

[Aphrodite]

 

[Lace_Out]

It’ll be easy next year, I’ll be switching to foxtel and watching with their commentators

Seems channel 7 have also recognised issues as they’re poaching a few at the moment, especially from Channel 9


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Bugger foxtel, way to expensive.
Kayo all the way unless you have a 100" + screen. Also has the fox footy channel if you want.

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[teagueyubeauty]

Kayo is foxtel, that’s what I meant


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