Mega Thread General MFC Discussion IV – Roffey and Pert Gone

[tomcruise]

The changes have got us started, as long as we can bring in a CEO capable of being open and having actual conversations with other humans. Bit sick of the robots.

Probably need to fall apart next year to get some proper coaching group / head of football shake-up then we could be on our way.

 

[Crusty Demon]

Tbh though that statement is about what I expected. We won't really know whether the review bears fruit until next year.

Exactly. People already sooking it up lol.

A few things that are great to see:

Pert gone is the big one. I actually don't mind that he's kept on as a consultant for the Caulfield Home Base project. Shows the club are committed to it and he's been all over it from the start. Would be silly to cut him completely. Smart move. Hopefully he can deliver.

Smith is the other big one. Great get for the club. He obviously turned us down initially, I'm guessing he needed to see some change and we've responded. I expect he'll be president by this time next year. Green IMO has been excellent so far. Exactly what the club needed. He's been upfront and transparent and unlike Roffey, he's been heard.

Chaplin to the forward line is a good idea. He's easily been our best line coach, so give him the weakest area of our team.

"The review also reinforced the importance of our midfield as a critical driver of success". Finally the penny might have dropped. We don't know if Chunk will be any good, but at least they are acknowledging that the midfield needs change.

"The review emphasised the need to refine our method of play" Isn't this exactly what people on here wanted? I don't get the sooking? Of course they aren't going to tell us plebs exactly how they are going to refine it or what exactly will be changed. Surely people aren't that stupid to expect that lol.

Overall I'm pretty satisfied with what has been shared. I have no doubt Goodwin has been told behind the scenes that if things don't change for the better then he's gone. They aren't going to say that in the review, but looking at the pointed sections about midfield and also method of play suggests if those things don't change for the better, then he's out the door. He and Richardson 100% on notice. Now can he pull it off? Most are hoping he doesn't, but at least we can see the club seeing the areas we need improving. Midfield, forwardline, and method of play.

 

[Daemon]

The only line I gave a toss about in that lengthy statement was "evolve our game plan". Now the proof is in the pudding.

 

[schmuttt]

The only line I gave a toss about in that lengthy statement was "evolve our game plan". Now the proof is in the pudding.

This is the same thing we said last year

 

[SugarHealey]

I like that Smith has already said he isn’t happy with some of the dealings they have gone on. He might have told Green etc that he will come on as long as certain things happen.

I am of the thinking that smith has a rethink since bGreen has come on for 12 months, to 'clear the air'... before any sSmith presidency.

This way Smithy can take over for a length of time with fresh change and regrowth. It seems clear to me he does not want to be within arms length of the cultural issues... which IMO have devastated our chances in 2022, 2023, 2024...

There goes any sort of chance, at the so-called Dynasty, as our best go grey and creaky.

 

[SugarHealey]

What competitive advantage?

The direction we are taking for the 2025 season and on.
And any decisions pending Re list changes, etc...

 

[SugarHealey]

Already was our 'offensive coordinator' a few years back. Fresh blood etc, haha

I believe Chaplin is thought of highly around AFL circles, and is just about our most senior assistant coach.
So his moving to forwards makes sense to me, as Jones and Randall take over the midfield... and then Bassett gets to know the ropes within, from our established Defence.

So hopefully we will start to become more attacking off our own halfback-line. Instead of Levers fantastic & brilliant
slow-motion plays, deep along the boundary line.

I'm yawning already at the thought of Lever again directing traffic from our D50.

 

[SugarHealey]

Jesus Christ what an absolutely pointless dribble of a statement.

Lots of "the review confirmed our strengths" going on in there.

To me it smacks of decisions "that were not made", in our recent past, since the 2021 Premiership... and of course those ones that were made... the decisions to bring in NQR's to our list, against the thoughts of our on-field leaders.

This is what i see as the catalyst to our unrest, this back half of this season. Bringing it all to a head.

Thanks Tracca... for standing up and singing and dancing for change.

Lets hope next year we wake up, and all will be :-

 

[SugarHealey]

A few things that are great to see:

Pert gone is the big one. I actually don't mind that he's kept on as a consultant for the Caulfield Home Base project. Shows the club are committed to it and he's been all over it from the start. Would be silly to cut him completely. Smart move. Hopefully he can deliver.

Perty, happy and sad: he helped take us to the promised land , but has pies connections and has overseen our move away from Gosch's. Which I think hands over Gosch's to the eddy Pies. lets just give the Pies all of Melbourne town.

Smith is the other big one. Great get for the club. He obviously turned us down initially, I'm guessing he needed to see some change and we've responded. I expect he'll be president by this time next year. Green IMO has been excellent so far. Exactly what the club needed. He's been upfront and transparent and unlike Roffey, he's been heard.

Good get. I have a hunch Perty and Roffey were too busy behind the scenes, in all areas they shouldn't have been. List changes.

Chaplin to the forward line is a good idea. He's easily been our best line coach, so give him the weakest area of our team.

"The review also reinforced the importance of our midfield as a critical driver of success". Finally the penny might have dropped. We don't know if Chunk will be any good, but at least they are acknowledging that the midfield needs change.

"The review emphasised the need to refine our method of play" Isn't this exactly what people on here wanted?

I hope so...!!!

I don't get the sooking? Of course they aren't going to tell us plebs exactly how they are going to refine it or what exactly will be changed. Surely people aren't that stupid to expect that lol.

Overall I'm pretty satisfied with what has been shared. I have no doubt Goodwin has been told behind the scenes that if things don't change for the better then he's gone.

 

[Daemon]

This is the same thing we said last year

Yeah and Goody did a half arsed job of it then reverted to norm. And most of this board want him gone because he refuses to make meaningful changes and continues to select his favourites.

 

[Crusty Demon]

Yeah and Goody did a half arsed job of it then reverted to norm. And most of this board want him gone because he refuses to make meaningful changes and continues to select his favourites.

All Eyes on him now. CEO gone, president gone, best player wanting out. He didn't have this pressure last couple of off seasons. Yes, there should have been as us supporters could see the issues, but the media, the general public and the board are now watching very closely. There's a difference between this offseason and the last couple. Whether he can adapt and change for the better we're about to find out. Most of us clearly don't think he can but at least there's genuine heat now.

 

[markm106]

Exactly. People already sooking it up lol.

A few things that are great to see:

Pert gone is the big one. I actually don't mind that he's kept on as a consultant for the Caulfield Home Base project. Shows the club are committed to it and he's been all over it from the start. Would be silly to cut him completely. Smart move. Hopefully he can deliver.

Smith is the other big one. Great get for the club. He obviously turned us down initially, I'm guessing he needed to see some change and we've responded. I expect he'll be president by this time next year. Green IMO has been excellent so far. Exactly what the club needed. He's been upfront and transparent and unlike Roffey, he's been heard.

Chaplin to the forward line is a good idea. He's easily been our best line coach, so give him the weakest area of our team.

"The review also reinforced the importance of our midfield as a critical driver of success". Finally the penny might have dropped. We don't know if Chunk will be any good, but at least they are acknowledging that the midfield needs change.

"The review emphasised the need to refine our method of play" Isn't this exactly what people on here wanted? I don't get the sooking? Of course they aren't going to tell us plebs exactly how they are going to refine it or what exactly will be changed. Surely people aren't that stupid to expect that lol.

Overall I'm pretty satisfied with what has been shared. I have no doubt Goodwin has been told behind the scenes that if things don't change for the better then he's gone. They aren't going to say that in the review, but looking at the pointed sections about midfield and also method of play suggests if those things don't change for the better, then he's out the door. He and Richardson 100% on notice. Now can he pull it off? Most are hoping he doesn't, but at least we can see the club seeing the areas we need improving. Midfield, forwardline, and method of play.

Agree on this. We’ve seen some big changes. Can’t imagine Goody and Richo surviving another poor season. It’s a big year coming up.

 

[schmuttt]

All Eyes on him now. CEO gone, president gone, best player wanting out. He didn't have this pressure last couple of off seasons. Yes, there should have been as us supporters could see the issues, but the media, the general public and the board are now watching very closely. There's a difference between this offseason and the last couple. Whether he can adapt and change for the better we're about to find out. Most of us clearly don't think he can but at least there's genuine heat now.

Media in general is slow on the uptake with pressure on coaches I find, unless they're at a genuinely big club.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

El Presidente email on the outcome of the football department review

Already lost me in the opening line saying the purpose of the review was "returning to finals in 2025" .. then went on to brag about being straight set'd two years running..... they dont get it.

The gamestyle bit sounds exactly like last year, head still firmly up their ass thinking we are onto a winner with this shit.

GAGF

 

[MarcMaverick]

Media in general is slow on the uptake with pressure on coaches I find, unless they're at a genuinely big club.

They can't with him. Goody need to be in the gun constantly.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

The only line I gave a toss about in that lengthy statement was "evolve our game plan". Now the proof is in the pudding.

This is the same thing we said last year

Yeah, we aimed for 1 goal more a game and kicked 2 goals less. #evolving

 

[dazzledavey36]

I'll give Brad Green

Brad Green

Age

43

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

10.3

4star

HB

5.9

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.4

5star

No current season stats available

D

7.2

2star

K

5.8

3star

HB

1.4

2star

M

3.2

4star

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0.0

1star

G

1.4

5star

one thing regardless of how he's communicated his message across.

He's communicated more to the members in his short time then Roffey ever did in her 3 years at the helm.

The fact that someone like Alan Richardson needs a mentor after 30 odd years in the industry is concerning in itself..

 

[demondavey]

This is the same thing we said last year

But they can’t flipping say anything else, can they? Its football lingo and it always will be.

 

[Crusty Demon]

I'll give Brad Green one thing regardless of how he's communicated his message across.

He's communicated more to the members in his short time then Roffey ever did in her 3 years at the helm.

The fact that someone like Alan Richardson needs a mentor after 30 odd years in the industry is concerning in itself..

I think Green has been more than fine. Tough position to come into and it's only temporary. Cops a belting by the doom squad on here, but at least we're hearing from him. Smith on paper looks to be a fantastic option to take over. Let's hope he doesn't get cold feet.

 

[Crusty Demon]

Already lost me in the opening line saying the purpose of the review was "returning to finals in 2025" .. then went on to brag about being straight set'd two years running..... they dont get it.

The gamestyle bit sounds exactly like last year, head still firmly up their ass thinking we are onto a winner with this shit.

GAGF

Shouldn't that be our goal every year?

I'm not quite understanding the whole doom and gloom thing here. That review states exactly what we've all been saying yeah? This is totally different to last offseason where there was simply a casual statement about improving scoring by a goal. This puts genuine heat on Goodwin to actually change. The midfield was highlighted as being crucial to this(which many on here have been saying) and our best line coach was moved to the forward half. If Goodwin can't create these changes in 2025 he's gone. If he does then we likely play finals again. If he doesn't then he and Richo look for jobs. Win/win.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Shouldn't that be our goal every year?

I'm not quite understanding the whole doom and gloom thing here. That review states exactly what we've all been saying yeah? This is totally different to last offseason where there was simply a casual statement about improving scoring by a goal. This puts genuine heat on Goodwin to actually change. The midfield was highlighted as being crucial to this(which many on here have been saying) and our best line coach was moved to the forward half. If Goodwin can't create these changes in 2025 he's gone. If he does then we likely play finals again. If he doesn't then he and Richo look for jobs. Win/win.

Couldn't give a rats about finals. Building a modern entertaining game style capable of winning them is far more important even if it means going backwards next year. To think Goodwin is likely safe because we play a final is frightening.

Mentioning contest in the game style bit is cringe, it will just be more tweaks like last year, pretty much said as much #strongdna.

"Our best line coach got moved to the forward half"? Really, this is a positive? Its only happening coz no one wanted to come here and we couldn't find an appropriate forward coach. Robbing Peter to pay Paul.

 

[Topkent]

Couldn't give a rats about finals. Building a modern entertaining game style capable of winning them is far more important even if it means going backwards next year. To think Goodwin is likely safe because we play a final is frightening.

Mentioning contest in the game style bit is cringe, it will just be more tweaks like last year, pretty much said as much #strongdna.

"Our best line coach got moved to the forward half"? Really, this is a positive? Its only happening coz no one wanted to come here and we couldn't find an appropriate forward coach. Robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Watching this group of campaigners bore their way to another final only to lose it 57-55 would be the worst possible outcome.

Would much prefer an Adelaide type year 2 years ago.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Watching this group of campaigners bore their way to another final only to lose it 57-55 would be the worst possible outcome.

Would much prefer an Adelaide type year 2 years ago.

A 57-55 finals win would be even worse. Give Goody an extension!

 

[Topkent]

A 57-55 finals win would be even worse. Give Goody an extension!

I think he would get one either way unfortunately.
I'm sad Perts gone, trying to flog off fat boy is the best thing anyone's done at this club for years.