Mega Thread General MFC Discussion Part III

[netslave]

Just did a ladder predictor for giggles, have us finishing 2nd with Bris on top and Geel and Freo after us.
That last round game against the Lions should be a good one.

 

[Jamurp]

Just did a ladder predictor for giggles, have us finishing 2nd with Bris on top and Geel and Freo after us.
That last round game against the Lions should be a good one.

I hate that Geelong will still probably finish top 4, their run home is so soft.

 

[LarryDavidNeitz]

I hate that Geelong will still probably finish top 4, their run home is so soft.

I love it, they'll be primed for another straight sets exit.

 

[mrmonkey]

I love it, they'll be primed for another straight sets exit.

When was their last strait sets exit?

Was in 2014

 

[Imet Hassa]

Didn’t know where to put this but reminiscing for those old enough to remember- Weid reminds me of David Cordner from mid 80s. Big, built, good looking, much promise which was never fulfilled.

 

[jhong]

Didn’t know where to put this but reminiscing for those old enough to remember- Weid reminds me of David Cordner from mid 80s. Big, built, good looking, much promise which was never fulfilled.

Seem to recall he was a bit injury prone wasn't he ?

 

[Imet Hassa]

Seem to recall he was a bit injury prone wasn't he ?

He was, shoulder or collarbone or some such. He just looked like he should have been a star.

 

[Daemon]

Dear Melbourne (Naaaaarm) Football Club,

I would like to apply for the position of Forward Line Coach.

I understand the position is not vacant but trust you will consider my application nonetheless.

I understand you may be interested in my credentials. I think they stack up well. I played under 10s about 30 years ago and kicked a few goals but do not have recent experience. I trust this will not be an issue considering the incumbent.

If I were to be considered for this position I would change the following:

• Only ask midfielders to kick to a pack in 70% of occassions (Down from 75%, that's 5%. 75 - 70 = 5. See results already!).
• Using the 5% divided I'd split this between extra leading (3.5%) and staging for free kicks (1.5% - see Cody Weightman
  3

  Cody Weightman

  Age

  24

  Ht

  179cm

  Wt

  75kg

  Pos.

  Fwd

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  6.5

  2star

  K

  4.0

  2star

  HB

  2.5

  2star

  M

  2.0

  2star

  T

  1.0

  3star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  D

  6.5

  1star

  K

  4.0

  1star

  HB

  2.5

  2star

  M

  2.0

  2star

  T

  1.0

  2star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  D

  6.5

  2star

  K

  4.0

  2star

  HB

  2.5

  3star

  M

  2.0

  3star

  T

  1.0

  3star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  for reference).
• Improve accuracy by 63% (figure dependent on forward buy-in and accountability, no personal liability accepted) by asking forwards to please kick straighter.
• No more unselfish play in forward 50. All forwards to take a shot no matter their position or free team mates (let's be honest, they don't look half the time anyway).
• Never pick Weideman or Mitch Brown again (our VFL side needs them, we shouldn't let them down, they might win the flag this year).
• Reverse diets of Ben Brown
  50

  Ben Brown

  Age

  32

  Ht

  200cm

  Wt

  100kg

  Pos.

  Fwd

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  10.7

  3star

  K

  7.7

  3star

  HB

  3.0

  3star

  M

  4.8

  5star

  T

  1.2

  3star

  G

  2.2

  5star

  D

  7.9

  2star

  K

  6.3

  3star

  HB

  1.6

  1star

  M

  3.7

  4star

  T

  0.9

  2star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  D

  8.0

  2star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  3.4

  3star

  M

  4.4

  4star

  T

  1.4

  4star

  G

  1.2

  4star

  and Tom MacDonald. This probably won't make a big difference but hey, what we are doing now isn't working so why not?

Thank you for your time.

Yours faithfully,

Daemon.

 

[netslave]

Hoping Freo do us a favour and beat Brisbane and we keep our buffer at the top, looks like we may really need it now.

 

[Lampers]

Hoping Freo do us a favour and beat Brisbane and we keep our buffer at the top, looks like we may really need it now.

Yes, and no. If Melbourne are relying on other results then they aren’t really good enough to win it all again IMO.

Melbourne need to be healthy and good enough when the whips are cracking come September, and be top 4 to buffer against an off day in the first week of finals.

If they lose enough games to finish 6th or whatever, then it’s hard to think the team is good enough anyway given that would mean a form line of 4-8 post round 10.

The forward line and how the team enters it is a shambles, that won’t get fixed by May returning. If they go 4-8 that would suggest the forward line won’t have been sorted out, which would require either significant form turnarounds or a significant structural change (e.g. two talls or even one tall).

 

[PerfectFooty]

Kinda got my curiosity watching the game so i thought i'd share it here. Haven't seen a lot of my boys Williamstown this season but i just found at Darcy Fritsch younger brother of our Bailey is playing for the seagulls. (Can easily see the resemblance)

Have a look, Port vs Willie on seven or the AFL website

 

[Proper Gander]

Kinda got my curiosity watching the game so i thought i'd share it here. Haven't seen a lot of my boys Williamstown this season but i just found at Darcy Fritsch younger brother of our Bailey is playing for the seagulls. (Can easily see the resemblance)

Have a look, Port vs Willie on seven or the AFL website

Is he the bloke who kicked 20 for Coldstream last year?

 

[PerfectFooty]

Is he the bloke who kicked 20 for Coldstream last year?

Probably? Might be an older brother, idk

 

[jhong]

Is he the bloke who kicked 20 for Coldstream last year?

Its his brother , had no impact for the Seagulls today . Libby Birchs' brother was one of the umpires .

 

[Proper Gander]

Its his brother , had no impact for the Seagulls today . Libby Birchs' brother was one of the umpires .

This is why I love this board. The things you know!

 

[mrmonkey]

Coming into work is a bit different these days. Getting reminded about the rare loss is a complete reversal of 10 years ago when it was a rare win or losing by 2.20 and people would say how competitive we w were even though we were never in it.

 

[Jamurp]

Kinda glad we dropped a couple tbh, the whole ‘How can this Melbourne side be stopped?’ crap can go away, we were always going to lose games.

We’re not unbeatable, we’re a very good football side who should have a massive chance of winning another flag, big
couple of weeks coming against the Pies and Lions.

 

[Bluelegs]

Another Warner article today about 2020

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/melbourne/melbourne-demons-coaches-and-players-savaged-in-text-messages-between-kate-roffey-and-glen-bartlett/news-story/1937a64ec102b434ba61a8b78207361e

Demons president Kate Roffey lampooned Melbourne’s coaches and players in a series of brutal text messages fired off during a 2020 form slump. The SMS conversations between then-director Roffey and then-president Glen Bartlett shed new light on the inner turmoil plaguing the club in the months prior to its march to last year’s premiership.

Texts reveal Roffey accusing the coaches of being too soft and having no idea, saying “feathers need to be ruffled and … some of them probably plucked”, as well as questioning whether the players were too “immature” and couldn’t cope with “critical feedback”.

The emergence of the texts come just weeks after Bartlett launched defamation action against several AFL journalists from The Age and Nine Entertainment.

The legal showdown is expected to have serious ramifications for the Dees, with a defamation trial likely to reveal what was happening behind the scenes at the club.

The view peddled in the aftermath of Bartlett’s exit as president was that he had lost the support of the football department and most directors after he had publicly lambasted the team in mid-2020.

But the Herald Sun revealed in February that from late 2020 until his departure as president in April last year, there had been a major disagreement between Bartlett and other senior club figures, including CEO Gary Pert, regarding concerns about alleged bullying and behavioural issues involving coach Simon Goodwin.

In February 2021, the board even considered standing down Goodwin, amid a major investigation.

AFL chiefs Gillon McLachlan and Richard Goyder met with Bartlett and then vice-president Mohan Jesudason to discuss the crisis.

Now, texts sent by Roffey to Bartlett, who she replaced as president, reveal she had been unrelenting in her criticism of the players in mid-2020.

Despite presenting herself as a unifying figure at the club, the messages expose Roffey also being highly critical of the coaching team, even encouraging Bartlett to remove people within the football department.

At 5.57am on the morning after a heavy loss to Port Adelaide in Brisbane in July, Roffey texted: “Absolutely appalling and no excuse. Something is seriously not working right across the whole system. Time for a reality check I think.”

Bartlett replied: “Agree, what would you do if you’re me?”

Roffey said it shouldn’t just be up to Bartlett to deliver harsh truths, but said given he was the president, it did “fall” on him.

Two days later, she said: “Personally I don’t think anyone has been tough enough ... A lot of feathers need to be ruffled and in my opinion some of them probably plucked as well.”

That afternoon, Roffey turned her ire on Demons people and culture manager Jim Plunkett, saying: “they are so reliant on him for some reason. Boot him off.”

To stress her point, Roffey added an emoji of a boot.

Ahead of the following weekend’s match, Roffey told Bartlett: “Looking for a better performance tonight”.

She continued: “I picked up a few references to things Paps (Colonel John Papalitsas) said in Goody’s press conference yesterday so here’s hoping it sank in a bit”.

Papalitsas, a decorated military figure, had addressed the club’s board and coaches about driving standards earlier that week.

Bartlett had bonded with the former soldier around values based leadership and organised his involvement with the Demons. His presence was one of several key initiatives Bartlett introduced at the time in an attempt to foster a stronger club culture.

But as the next match against Adelaide unfolded, Roffey was on the attack again.

“Undisciplined. Sloppy. Confused. They just look like they have no structure and no idea how to create any,” she said in one text.

“I can’t work out the umpiring - it’s pretty bad - but so are we. Not sure the coaching team have the right answers either,” Roffey said in another.

In another critical reference to the players, Roffey questioned whether they were “an immature team who can’t take critical feedback”.

In a report printed in the lead up to last year’s grand final, a Demons insider claimed that Bartlett “broke the trust” with the club, leading to the boardroom coup, with his infamous “Weeties” outburst after the Port Adelaide loss.

The Herald Sun has since published information casting serious doubt on the accuracy of this claim.

Talking to the Herald Sun after the game, Bartlett had said: “It was disgraceful. When you pull on a Melbourne jumper we don’t give them out in Weeties packets.”

In an interview in the week before Melbourne’s grand final triumph, Roffey said of the “Weeties” outburst: “It’s not what I would have done. He was the president, that was his call, but would I do it like that, personally, as a female? Probably not, but that’s just me.”

But the mid-2020 texts between Roffey and Bartlett reveal she was supportive of his rant and was urging him to go further.

The text messages were obtained by the Herald Sun as part of a dispute which has been resolved, with the Herald Sun acknowledging Bartlett should have had the opportunity to comment at the time on Roffey’s assertions concerning his criticisms of the team and exit as president when they were published by the paper last September.

In her interview with the Herald Sun last September, Roffey insisted that Bartlett’s exit as president was planned.

“We talk about succession planning all the time. It’s always difficult. We love these clubs and you always want to be a part of them, but we all have to step off at some time. These conversations take place over months,” she said.

However, it has since emerged that only weeks earlier Bartlett had been endorsed to stay on as president for another 12 months, and as a board member for a further three years.

The Herald Sun has revealed that Bartlett and Pert had a major disagreement in late 2020 and early 2021 over concerns that the club was not being proactive enough on its drug and alcohol policy and over the sacking of long-time club doctor Zeeshan Arain.

Bartlett strongly backed Dr Arain over his allegations of bullying by Goodwin, was critical of the medico’s sacking which resulted in Melbourne having to pay a secret six-figure sum, and believed the club investigation into Goodwin’s alleged behavioural issues was being undermined.

“I look forward to Simon continuing to evolve as a coach and leader at the Melbourne Football Club for many more years to come,” Roffey said when the allegations first surfaced.

I appreciate what Bartlett did for the club over the past decade but now it's time for him to let it go.

Not sure what purpose these stagnated leaks serve except his own ego.

 

[ImissFrosty]

Another Warner article today about 2020

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/melbourne/melbourne-demons-coaches-and-players-savaged-in-text-messages-between-kate-roffey-and-glen-bartlett/news-story/1937a64ec102b434ba61a8b78207361e

I appreciate what Bartlett did for the club over the past decade but now it's time for him to let it go.

Not sure what purpose these stagnated leaks serve except his own ego.

Yeah I don't think anybody actually cares now, hard to make these claims have any impact after a premiership and currently 1st on the ladder lol

 

[Theseventhhamster]

What a ****ing w***er Bartlett is.

 

[stEdy]

Bizarre.

Plenty of big egos at board level though - and plenty of dirty laundry too no doubt

 

[Bluelegs]

I actually think it's pretty funny Roffey goaded Bartlett into making a big statement then immediately came out and goes "Woah mate, too far!" Sucked in.

That's the best Melbourne troll since Topkent got A11dAtP0w3R to spray salt and vinegar all over his garden.

 

[schmuttt]

Bartlett leaking text messages is a bit embarrassing for him now. What purpose does this serve Glen?

 

[Bluelegs]

Bartlett leaking text messages is a bit embarrassing for him now. What purpose does this serve Glen?

The article seems to say the texts were handed over during his defamation suit and the Hun conceded he should have been given right of reply. Not exactly sure what the two have to do with each other, but still comes off as a massive whinge.

 

[ImissFrosty]

Why didn't any of this come out once he resigned last year?

Surely he could've done it when they might've had some bearing on whether he continued