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a big no from me, not that I have any say. I reckon we wouldn't have to outlay as much for Gumbleton
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a big no from me, not that I have any say. I reckon we wouldn't have to outlay as much for Gumbleton
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About 10 clubs are after Gumby, apparently Freo and Carlton are the front runners
Not sure if I've misinterpreted what you're saying, but you seem to be implying Karnezis isn't doing all he can to realise his potential/take his opportunity.
Was trying to find out where he's been at this season, and came across the story below... a bit of a fluff piece, but overall seems pretty positive, and mentions the fact he's been playing midfield in reserves to build his tank and fitness base... as I said, overall it seems only positive sounds coming out of the Lions about him. Wouldn't be the first player to be keen to move closer to family/friends if there is any truth to that, as has been suggested.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...el-against-swans/story-e6freck3-1226419364720
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Perhaps I'm reading this wrong, but the article implies he's behind a fit Ash McGrath - a rumoured homesickness, along with lack of opportunity at the Lions (if I'm reading it properly) could be enough to motivate him even more to be on the move.
Definitely sounds like he's in the Lions' long-term plans though, and they'll do whatever they can to convince him to stick with it.
And as I said, what would it take for Essendon to accept a trade for Gumby ??? What would Carlton need to give up for a player who was once a #2 ND selection, has played in 28 games in the 7 seasons (god he would be a RFA next year
) and has a career high bag of 4 goals to his name.
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Didn't Patty K get 40+ touches in one of his midfield games in the 2s? They want to turn him into a Pendlebury type.
No Dannnnnn was saying that the Lions MUST trade him this year (while under contract) otherwise he will be disinterested and he won't play well NEXT year, so his trade value would drop ........
Not aware of his reserves form. I'd be happy to trade Luke McGuane in a clean swap
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Not what I was saying at all. All I'm saying is that if he decides he wants to go somewhere for next year's season it would be in Brisbane's best interest to try and work out a deal. Otherwise they run the risk of him running into personal issues and nobody wanting him the year after. Nowhere did I say they have to trade him.
OK then... In that case, I'm not sure why he would assume that? Or maybe we've both misinterpreted what he's said!
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Don't think it was worded passive-aggressively at all, but alright. Sorry it came across the wrong way.
Josh Toy, Mav Weller or Jackson Allen from GC could be other good options if after good kicking players.
Whilst I like big Gumby, Crozier could be the next Fyfe (not quite as good as Fyfe) with what he has shown this year and given he is approx 5 years younger and not injury prone the answer becomes simple - no thanks.
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The 'Dogs must have seen our discussion - named Panos on the extended interchange for his debut.
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yeah disapointed voss didn't name karnezisThe 'Dogs must have seen our discussion - named Panos on the extended interchange for his debut.
I'm pretty sure most clubs want to turn their midfielders into Pendlebury types. Actually doing it is the hard part.
To put form in the 2's into perspective, Brad Symes regularly gets 35 touches in SANFL games, a league which is far superior to the QAFL/NEAFL. Unfortunately, it doesn't mean he's any good at AFL level.
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I'm pretty sure most clubs want to turn their midfielders into Pendlebury types. Actually doing it is the hard part.
To put form in the 2's into perspective, Brad Symes regularly gets 35 touches in SANFL games, a league which is far superior to the QAFL/NEAFL. Unfortunately, it doesn't mean he's any good at AFL level.
Yeah, think it's a bit of a different scenario with Karnezis though. As you can probably tell, I'm a bit of a fan. We've got our guys who rack up touches in the NEAFL (Hawksley, Stiller) but can't convert at senior level, but Karnezis is far from one of them.
He's quite simply all class. His reading of the play is sublime, as is his decision making and composure under pressure. Add this to an outstanding goal sense and great field vision and you can see why we're trying to develop him from someone with a relatively low tank who can maybe kick two goals up forward to a midfielder who rotates forward and can have much more influence on the game.
I definitely hope we can keep him and that these homesickness rumours subside. We've got a few kids on our list that just scream potential - Polec, Beams and Clarke are probably the others to come to mind - and I firmly believe that Karnezis has all the tools to be among the competition's best.
That's why I'd be very disappointed if we made the decision to trade him this year. I think he's worth much more than pick 27 personally, but based on what he's shown in terms of performances so far, sadly that's probably on the mark. But if he sticks around next season, as I imagine he will... well, much more senior time, belief in your game, and progression as a club can do a lot in terms of convincing someone to stay.
A lot of guys put their kids into midfield in the 2s to develop, even if they only see them as backs or forwards at the top level. Wouldn't read *too* much into it, in terms of their long-term plans for him.
Either way surely a fwd at the Lions right now would be pretty dumb to leave, right now? Spots are there for the taking.
Either way surely a fwd at the Lions right now would be pretty dumb to leave, right now? Spots are there for the taking.
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If he did leave though, it'd be homesickness. Not to do with lack of opportunity at all. In saying that, I reckon if he spent a lot of time in the seniors next year, that could convince him to stay.
Essentially, he's been in the twos to develop from a skilled but slightly awkard-moving and small engined medium forward to a long running skilled midfielder/forward. Hold very high hopes for him. Change of Patty K's in my avatar is merely precautionary.
One week before 18 weeks later.....you got flogged by 96 points, did u forget that champ
Your sources suck - Lisle has great vision in traffic and touch for a big man. He also played the last 4-5 games for us and showed plenty after a slow start up North.
Panos got promoted at the start of the season and still couldn't get a game in a Doggies forward line that was screaming out for a key forward.
No deal
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Stay on topic champ. If you want to talk about his sig, do it on his profile, not in here
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