Rumour GFC 2017 Player Trading, Drafting, FA, Rumours, and Wish lists - PT2

[Pack Specialist]

There is precedent. Remember when Guthrie traded jumpers with Chris Judd after a game?

As opposed to the other precedents of people trading retina's with Juddy's fingernails?

 

[Sticksman]

All BF posters are 'trolls', it all depends on what side of the fence you're sitting on.

Strongly disagree.

 

[Burro]

This is great PR for the club. That must also come into the calculation of value. Need to look at the bigger picture.

 

[Sttew]

Schache could have been had for 24 if we weren't stuffing around with Foldcoast.

Somebody bookmark this

Bulldogs offload one troubled forward for another troubled forward

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

GCS sacrificed pick 2 in this years draft for a player they know (he came from their academy), but are looking at next year when they'll have two picks in the top ten in a strong draft. So the Weller deal isn't so bad if you look at it from a big picture perspective. They had 4 top ten picks last year too.

 

[Mr Blicavs]

Schache could have been had for 24 if we weren't stuffing around with Foldcoast.

Somebody bookmark this

He'll be playing local footy for Seymour in 2 years.


Bookmark it

 

[Danger!Selwood]

So we lose Lang and Motlop and downgrade a bunch of our picks and get Ablett, we've had a couple of great trade periods recently but that has to be one of our worst. And after all the noise about how disappointed the club was with the finals performance we proceed to get rid of 2 of our best players in those finals.

Neither were contracted so we had no say in Motlop going and minimal leverage in Lang. The only relevant pick we downgraded (by only 5 spots)was a pick we never expected to get regardless. Cats are all in to win it in the next two or three years in my opinion, and that's a good thing. Getting Ablett in and losing Motlop (ordinary for 70% of the last two seasons) and Lang (played 40 games in 4 years) is definitely making us better. Factor in getting a few of our small forwards fit, and a younger backline (movement was awesome vs Sydney when Lonergan was out) and its looking good to me.

As well as picks 22,24 and 35 in the draft gives us a great chance to get in a few young blokes.

 

[Isaac Norm Smith]

Now Ablett is officially back at Geelong, I couldn't be more excited. Hopefully he can remain injury free. Looking forward to hitting the draft and hopefully getting some quality kids into the club. Very happy with this trade period.

 

[frggr]

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Why doesn't that list Pick 19 in the 'lost' side, if it lists Pick 24 in the 'gained' side?

 

[Danger!Selwood]

Ablett, Dangerfield, Selwood and Duncan at the starting bounce in Rd 1 - think about that.

Free kick against for too many players in the square? Unless one of them is playing in the ruck!

 

[BigCat1]

He'll be playing local footy for Seymour in 2 years.


Bookmark it

deal

 

[Ikan Bodoh]

Ablett, Dangerfield, Selwood and Duncan at the starting bounce in Rd 1 - think about that.

Duncan to be starting ruck?

 

[randyzany]

Strongly disagree.

Troll might have been too strong a word but undoubtedly there'd be a lot of opposition fans who'd be taking great delight in this deal, whether you consider them trolls or not.

 

[GFrost]

Ablett, Dangerfield, Selwood and Duncan at the starting bounce in Rd 1 - think about that.

 

[Fyre]

Hodge had retired in case you missed it. He's cooked. Good luck to him and his family for an all expenses holiday in Queensland for a year.

Correction. 2 years.

 

[Mr Blicavs]

LOL bigfooty struggling to cope with all the traffic.
I can guarantee 90% of the conversation revolves around Ablett and Geelong


We still matter !

 

[Zouz Kitty]

About 45 minutes ago corner of Moorabool and Malop Streets, Geelong

 

[RegHickeyStand]

Pick 58 I

Pardon my ignorance, but what did the Lang deal end up being?

Pick 58 I heard

 

[Ikan Bodoh]

Why doesn't that list Pick 19 in the 'lost' side, if it lists Pick 24 in the 'gained' side?

Because we didn't have it to start with

 

[Wojcinski]

Why doesn't that list Pick 19 in the 'lost' side, if it lists Pick 24 in the 'gained' side?

Because it was picked up during the trade period

 

[bigblackboz]

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I think overall value wise we did quiet well.

We traded picks in that totalled about 1502 points and traded out picks totalling about 768 points. That means that we received extra draft points totalling 786 points or the equivalent of pick 26.

Hence, I think from a points perspective we traded Lang + Motlop for Ablett + 26. I know its not that simple but if my math is correct (a big if) we actually did very well especially considering we will likely need picks next year.

I do question the strategy of not going after more pace and another biggish forward but I'm sure the club probably looked around and couldn't find anything. If they didn't, I have no idea what is going on. I do note that the other teams by their trading patterns seem to value picks in the 20s so maybe there is more value there this year.

 

[Burro]

Every year it seems we have to go through this exercise because people don’t understand the value in pick upgrades/downgrades. Tiresome.

It is a complicated system and clubs need to take into account other things that we don't know about. Sometimes they get it right and sometime wrong but on balance we have got the best outcome we could get.

 

[Cursed Cat]

Correction. 2 years.

wow - that is crazy.

 

[Seeds]

Thoughts on Ablett deal:

To be fair, getting Pick 19 for Motlop was more than we expected. So instead of getting 35 (which is what most of us expected for Motlop), and trading our Pick 22 for Ablett, we have ended up keeping Pick 22 + getting Pick 24 as well.

So I'm okay with us trading Pick 19 considering how we got it, plus we get Pick 24 back. What I'm disappointed about was that we shouldn't have traded our 2018 2nd Round Pick too.

The value of pick 19 doesnt change depending on how we got it. Its irrational to consider sunk costs (or sunk gains).

 

[Pack Specialist]

About 45 minutes ago corner of Moorabool and Malop Streets, Geelong

Must have ordered it weeks ago!