Rumour GFC 2024 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 2

[cats_09]

Ask and we'll try our best to assist - so here's 2024 Provisional AFL Draft Order

As normal, would like to acknowledge & thank Lore for creating this, keeping it up to date and making it available for all users on BF to use and keep track of the picks ahead of the upcoming draft





I'll also sticky this post to ensure it's easily accessible for discussion of our hypothetical trader


Also,

2024 Free Agency Period​

The AFL introduced free agency at the end of the 2012 season, giving players another vehicle where they can transfer from one club to another. Free agency is a common form of player movement in major football and sporting codes around the world.

Free Agency Opens: Friday October 4 at 9.00am
Free Agency Closes: Friday October 11 at 5.00pm

Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period​

Trade Period Opens: Monday October 7 at 9.00am
Trade Period Closes: Wednesday October 16 at 7.30pm

 

[Turbocat]

He could be amazing- fear for his safety once he hits the big time. 100% + effort. Not so classy wrt disposals, but he's going to set the tone. Reminds me of Jack Viney.

I guess thats why some call him the beast from the east. Hard at it kid.

 

[Goggin Our Best]

Jay Clark barracks for Collingwood.

Prove it - he must have swapped teams - he was allways a Cats supporter

 

[catempire]

Prove it - he must have swapped teams - he was allways a Cats supporter

Not so. Started at the Addy but was always a Pie.

 

[Turbocat]

Hawkins being floated as a Joe Daniher replacement for a year at the lions on SEN haha. How would we feel

Up to him. He has earned to do what he wants to do. Id be surprised …I think they could put a couple of cheaper and younger options. If the waved their two R1 picks around ..my bet some club would bite.

 

[Strange Cat]

Up to him. He has earned to do what he wants to do. Id be surprised …I think they could put a couple of cheaper and younger options. If the waved their two R1 picks around ..my bet some club would bite.

I’m not against Hawkins playing for another club , but I very much doubt he would move away from his farm and uproot his children just for a few years up North

But if he does I will be hoping he does well and wish him the best just like any other ex cat player.

 

[Romeoh1]

I would be shocked if he wasn’t

Polled very well in Brownlow 21/22- must have been healthy then.

 

[Boxhead_31]

Interesting titbit in the clip here at the 0:58 mark Shannon Burns running with Oliver during a run

 

[Kitcat]

What is the effect on the squad when they see Oliver earning far more than our existing top players? And if he doesn’t perform?

 

[catempire]

Interesting titbit in the clip here at the 0:58 mark Shannon Burns running with Oliver during a run

Don’t think so. Doppelgänger.

 

[iameviljez]

That’s not quite true. The murmurs of him leaving were only after his off field issues which occurred AFTER that season had ended. His form that season was fine.

No, it was a definite drop on the years before.

 

[Strange Cat]

What is the effect on the squad when they see Oliver earning far more than our existing top players? And if he doesn’t perform?

We aren’t the bulldogs in the way they treated Boyd , strong culture and leadership will stop any of that rot

 

[Rubberducky]

Interesting titbit in the clip here at the 0:58 mark Shannon Burns running with Oliver during a run

Yeah, from when he was playing with MFC most likely… (edit might have gone early and Shagger was done with them before Clarry arrived)

Interesting to see SDK with the crutch too.

 

[#6 Thorp #7 Selwood LOL]

Interesting titbit in the clip here at the 0:58 mark Shannon Burns running with Oliver during a run

That’s not shagga

 

[cats_09]

That dogs board is a laugh.

Now they're talking about Butters.

Awkward.

I was reading that line on social media this morning - I believe the suggestion was a swap of Butters for JUH

 

[Romeoh1]

What is the effect on the squad when they see Oliver earning far more than our existing top players? And if he doesn’t perform?

I imagine most of them are like us- they want the team to be the best it can be. And if Oliver is part of that equation that could make our midfield good again- who wouldn’t embrace that? They are all paid pretty darn well anyway. They are professionals and presumably understand that footy is also a business.

 

[TheMenz Gallery]

More information will come to light in the next few days but I think Cal Twomey is on the money ........."this is now a problem of Melbourne's doing". We are fast approaching the stage of "no turning back" for Melbourne and I think the player will get his wishes.

I’m normally glass half full on most things but putting my Senior Manager’s hat on, I find it very hard to believe that this is all Gary Pert’s doing.

I can’t imagine Steve Hocking getting involved with a list management or coaching related issue unless a prior conversation took place with appropriate staff in charge of each sector. I’m sure he has more pressing issues than micromanaging middle management. I’m sure list management have their hands all over it. Clayton may have stuffed up and this was the final straw for a conversation to escalate to Pert or he may have done nothing. It might be a salary dump with Gawn, Petracca and Oliver on about 3 -3.3mil as reported last month and the repercussions of trading an all time great of the club. It could be any number of reasons but you don’t get rid of a superstar from your club if they are doing everything right.

I agree more information will come to light in the future but maybe not before a deal is struck. It might be in the form of a parting shot on the way out ala Steve Hocking re:Jordan Clark in order to win the PR battle. I just hope that whatever comes out is not to bad and the Cats are already all over it.

I’ll back our club in to have done their due diligence and would love to have him on board. Oliver could be the difference between staying a top 4 side or a premiership favourite.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

To some degree, this is an astonishing own goal from Melbourne. The club that has lurched from one crisis to another all season will today consider whether it makes one of the biggest calls in recent trade history and explores a deal with Geelong on superstar onballer Clayton Oliver.

For the past 24 hours, the Demons’ top brass has been considering what was the least worst outcome.

Keeping an angry and disenchanted Oliver on its books for next season after dangling him as trade bait two years in a row, or getting 50 cents in the dollar back on a trade with the Cats?

The risk with keeping Oliver is that his situation could deteriorate further if he is not fully invested or feeling supported at Melbourne next year, and right now he feels let down.

As it stands, if Oliver attends the club’s best and fairest on Friday night it would only be out of a sense of loyalty to his teammates.

But the brilliant ball-winner is steaming, and Melbourne is now weighing up whether to pull the trigger on a blockbuster switch that remains incredibly complex and difficult to pull off.

His manager, Nick Gieschen from Connors Sports, is an influential figure at probably the most powerful management stable in the game.

History says they get it done, even if Melbourne is reluctant to play ball and still somewhat afraid of the consequences.

The Cats are sitting back in their comfiest leather couches down the highway and are smoking the pipes on this one, trying to hide their smiles.

Geelong will have to give a future first-round pick for one of the best on-ballers in the game, which is as cheap as a half-price fridge in the Boxing Day sales.

Geelong also has one of the best psychologists in football, David Williams, who could you believe, was also Melbourne’s psychologist between 2013-2019 before joining the Cats.

It is not a stretch to say if anyone knows Oliver and his issues well, it’s almost certainly Williams. What an ace to have up your sleeve.

The Cats think they can make this work with Bailey Smith and Oliver, who could both have some significant points to prove at new clubs.


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The rest of the article is much more Melbourne focused

This has become a humanitarian crisis. We need to get him out of there for his own safety

 

[year of the cat]

No, it was a definite drop on the years before.

If averaging 30.3 possessions a game in that season is a drop off then I’ll forgive him.

 

[cats_09]

Interesting titbit in the clip here at the 0:58 mark Shannon Burns running with Oliver during a run

That would be old footage - after he finished at Geelong, Byrnes played at Melbourne for the 2013 & 2014 seasons

Following his playing career, he then took on the role of "Welfare and Development Coach" at Melbourne and was in that type of role through to 2021 when he took up the role of Player Development Manager with us

So he'd have an existing relationship with Oliver, and would think that the powers to be at the club have lent on him at times in this process to get some insight from his time at Melbourne

 

[Strange Cat]

This has become a humanitarian crisis. We need to get him out of there for his own safety

It’s been staggering watching Melb implode over the last few years

 

[GeelongFTW]

I imagine most of them are like us- they want the team to be the best it can be. And if Oliver is part of that equation that could make our midfield good again- who wouldn’t embrace that? They are all paid pretty darn well anyway. They are professionals and presumably understand that footy is also a business.

They'd also realise Oliver never would've got that contract here

 

[jezza1435]

Polled very well in Brownlow 21/22- must have been healthy then.

Ben cousins won a Brownlow in 2005, How “healthy” was he?

 

[Down at K Park]

This is getting really messy for the MFC and this is what happens when you are in denial about your clubs culture to the point that it makes a club delusional.

The club should have listened to their former president a couple of years ago rather than trying to shove everything under the rug and now the chickens are coming home to roost.

Spot on. Even now they are in complete denial/damage control. Goodwin is a cancer, the culture is in the toilet, management have no idea what they are doing and even blokes like gawn are nothing but weak leaders too busy denying there is any problem. He gets on triple m most mornings and tells everyone how rosy everything is. That’s not a strong leader, thats a weak leader who won’t admit the problems so they can be fixed. He’s too busy protecting the club rather than trying to fix it.

That’s not how strong leaders work. Strong leaders face problems head on, not sweep them under the rug.

 

[Down at K Park]

Ben cousins won a Brownlow in 2005, How “healthy” was he?

Probably needed to sleep more than once a week i guess.

 

[Reg Hickey]

Imagine all the kids who have been exposed to the success of the club in the last 20 years. My girls saw a flag when 8 and 12 …. an amazing period in the clubs history.


its probably a contributing factor in now having 90,000 members.

Personally I saw some early "success" with a couple of very close prelim losses to Collingwood in 1980-81, but after that the 80s really sucked as a Cats fan.

I was 16 in 1989, listening to the final quarter comeback on my walkman in a church during a family wedding, because the reception venue the bride wanted was available that day only (gee, wonder why??). The next few years were awesome but not quite awesome enough.

Then I was sitting second tier between the wing and the flank in 2007. I remember being directly behind Moons when he slotted the first goal of the 2nd half from 50 on the boundary and thinking, "this is finally it!!".

My kids, on the other hand, were born in 2004 and 2006 and of course were indoctrinated very early. They don't remember 2007, but my eldest remembers 2009 and they both remember 2011 and of course 2022. It has been such good going for them that a prelim is the bare minimum expectation, because they've known little else. Talk about a privileged time to support the greatest sporting club on earth.