Rumour GFC 2022 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists

[cats_09]

 

[Shadow89]

Why hasn't Dalhaus been announced as delisted or retiring. Any chance he gets traded to a 3rd club.

Would imagine it's because Dahl is a bit more significant than the others (club loves him), and he wouldn't want to be stepping on Sel's toes with his own announcement. Will likely be made later on this week

 

[sarah.13]

I’ve appointed Wells to do all the wheeling and dealing on my behalf.

 

[GeelongFTW]

If Collingwood fans think they are actually gonna get a top 10 pick for a player that went out of the top 10 initially and without a lot of exposed form they're crazy. Draftees lose value (or at the very least don't gain) without exposed form-like it or not.

 

[CatRiot]

Should we be looking at Jack Graham from Richmond? Could be a decent replacement for Selwood. He was talked up as their next captain.

I don't think he is good enough, or worth of taking unless we were in full rebuild moment and had to fill gaps but we don't have to.

But he is not a player you laugh at like some reactions to your comment.

He was 2nd in BnF at Tigers only last year.

He is around the level that Parfitt is, Parfitt is a bit better tbh.

 

[CatRiot]

Do people think if we get Pick 7 that Clark is the target?

I'm not so sure, considering we are going for Bruhn and likely to get that one.

 

[petrolium]

I’d back Wells to find an excellent player should we have access to pick 7 this year. Whilst his record in the later stages of the first round overall is a bit shaky (by his high standards), he has shown that he will nail a single digit pick pretty much every time. The problem is we haven’t had many at all. Of his single digit selections, only Tenace would be a fail (he played 59 games) - the others speak for themselves.

Pick 8 1999- Joel Corey

Joel Corey

Age

42

Ht

191cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.4

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

11.0

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

4.1

5star

CL

3.9

5star

No current season stats available

D

12.4

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

2.2

3star

T

1.6

4star

Pick 8 2001- Jimmy Bartel
Pick 7 2002- Andrew Mackie

Andrew Mackie

Age

40

Ht

193cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.2

5star

K

12.6

5star

HB

6.6

4star

M

5.7

5star

T

2.1

4star

MG

346.7

5star

No current season stats available

D

9.0

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.2

4star

Pick 7 2003- Kane Tenace

Kane Tenace

Age

39

Ht

182cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.7

4star

K

9.3

4star

HB

4.4

3star

M

2.9

3star

T

1.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

12.6

4star

K

9.6

4star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

0.8

3star

Pick 7 2006- Joel Selwood

 

[Turbocat]

Do people think if we get Pick 7 that Clark is the target?

I'm not so sure, considering we are going for Bruhn and likely to get that one.

Im not sure either... we have a lot of young mids on our list but no one rated as early as Clark. But there would be a few in that range that would add a different type.



but before we worry to much about that... we need to have P7

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Im not sure either... we have a lot of young mids on our list but no one rated as early as Clark. But there would be a few in that range that would add a different type.



but before we worry to much about that... we need to have P7

Correct...not home and hosed on P7 yet.

 

[CatRiot]

Im not sure either... we have a lot of young mids on our list but no one rated as early as Clark. But there would be a few in that range that would add a different type.



but before we worry to much about that... we need to have P7

Yep.

I'm not against getting Clark btw, as he looks like he is fearless. However, I'm keeping expectations real about him too. We see many of those smaller mids come through the system and seldom do very few reach near those levels. I don't think we will ever see another Joel Selwood type ever again at the Club, he will always be the ultimate Warrior. After watching some more of Clark, I can see the resemblances in style though.

 

[strauchnyy]

Why is everyone wanting to use the potential pick 7 for the Henry and Bruhn trades? I’m very confident the club can get those trades done without using the pick 7 if it comes to it

100%

If we get 7 that pick needs to be taken to the draft and not mentioned in the same breath as Bruhn/Henry (which can be done with later picks)

 

[ShaunWDT]

I dont think its beyond possibility that Dahl doesnt actually want to retire and that's the holdup on any announcement, hes only just turned 30 at the end of the day.

 

[catsfootyfan89]

Good to see Narkle off the list. Oh what could've been, if only the effort was there.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Do people think if we get Pick 7 that Clark is the target?

I'm not so sure, considering we are going for Bruhn and likely to get that one.

I wouldn't think so TBH.
Drafted Stephens, Knevitt, Krueger, Willis, Whyte who are mids...
Thin draft without any standouts bar Ashcroft.
Interesting to hear that many pundits/scribes out there think it 20 deep... MAX.
With 4-5 being the magical number... after that 6-20 are much the same.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

100%

If we get 7 that pick needs to be taken to the draft and not mentioned in the same breath as Bruhn/Henry (which can be done with later picks)

Agreed.
If we only have one pick thats probably the plan but if we open up two spots i hope they try and trade back for 2 teens/twenties picks.

 

[BORIS332]

Are you factoring in trades and rookie elevations?
Assuming dahl goes (which he will) we have cleared 6 senior list spots (narkle stevens evans higgins selwood dahl).
2 of those have to go to close and atkins (rookie elevations).
If we trade in henry and bruhn that becomes 2 senior list spots free, or three if we also delist simpson.
I'm not sure where you are getting 5 senior spots from that math doesnt compute unless we do no trades.
Thats where the possibility of delisting and re rookieing comes from as it would be needed if we want to take 3-4 picks to the draft.
If we are happy to only take one draft pick (trade all the other picks into futures) plus elevate close and atkins then and only then do we not need to make more delistings.

We haven’t brought in Bruhn or Henry, we haven’t yet re-signed all six out of contract players.

 

[Hinkley29]

Just my opinion - but drafting for need is a recipe for disaster.

pick the best player available and then sort out the list balance through free agency or trades. if Clark is the best player available then you pick him. You can’t have too many good players, and you definitely can’t have too many good midfielders.

 

[fpm84]

Just on the Bowes scenario, can someone explain to me how it would work? He’s reportedly way overpaid - I’ve seen everywhere from 550k-850k pa - and the Suns want to salary dump.

Our pay structure is well documented and the reason we missed Hopper is because we wouldn’t accommodate his pay demands.

How does Bowes fit in our plans? Do we extend his contract to four years with the same amount of money owed?

We must also remember that we now have 20 new premiership players many of whom will be in line for bonuses and pay increases.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

We haven’t brought in Bruhn or Henry, we haven’t yet re-signed all six out of contract players.

No we havent but its likely that both will come one would think.
Its also likely that we will allow the out of contract vets to go on so that only leaves simpson uncontracted (unless ive missed anyone?)

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Just on the Bowes scenario, can someone explain to me how it would work? He’s reportedly way overpaid - I’ve seen everywhere from 550k-850k pa - and the Suns want to salary dump.

Our pay structure is well documented and the reason we missed Hopper is because we wouldn’t accommodate his pay demands.

How does Bowes fit in our plans? Do we extend his contract to four years with the same amount of money owed?

We must also remember that we now have 20 new premiership players many of whom will be in line for bonuses and pay increases.

He gets his 1.6mil over 2 years but we sign him to a 4 year deal where the last 2 years are lower so it averages out as like 5-600kpa would be my guess.

On the last sentence the over 30 guys wont need pay increases it will only be the younger ones (sdk in particular) that will.

 

[Warhorse]

Just on the Bowes scenario, can someone explain to me how it would work? He’s reportedly way overpaid - I’ve seen everywhere from 550k-850k pa - and the Suns want to salary dump.

Our pay structure is well documented and the reason we missed Hopper is because we wouldn’t accommodate his pay demands.

How does Bowes fit in our plans? Do we extend his contract to four years with the same amount of money owed?

We must also remember that we now have 20 new premiership players many of whom will be in line for bonuses and pay increases.

Bowes is not overpayed at all. It's terrible what Gold Coast are doing to him. Loves the club. They asked him to push his wage towards the end of his contract due to COVID cuts and being the good clubman he is he agreed to it. Played for basically rookie wages (150-200k) for 2 years and now it is time for him to get paid as per his 4 year contract they are trying to push him out. Absolutely terrible list management treating someone this way and will damage the culture.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

100%

If we get 7 that pick needs to be taken to the draft and not mentioned in the same breath as Bruhn/Henry (which can be done with later picks)

What later picks do you think will get those trades done?

 

[fpm84]

Bowes is not overpayed at all. It's terrible what Gold Coast are doing to him. Loves the club. They asked him to push his wage towards the end of his contract due to COVID cuts and being the good clubman he is he agreed to it. Played for basically rookie wages (150-200k) for 2 years and now it is time for him to get paid as per his 4 year contract they are trying to push him out. Absolutely terrible list management treating someone this way and will damage the culture.

Fair enough - backending contracts is always dangerous as Collingwood found out with Treloar.

My question was more about getting his salary to work in our system, seems extending the contract to three or four years would do the job.

 

[fpm84]

On the last sentence the over 30 guys wont need pay increases it will only be the younger ones (sdk in particular) that will.

SDK, Close and Stengle next year, each has valid claims for a huge payrise. Agree that it won’t be a factor for the veterans.

 

[year of the cat]

SDK, Close and Stengle next year, each has valid claims for a huge payrise. Agree that it won’t be a factor for the veterans.

Add Holmes to that list too. His next contract will be substantially larger than his current one.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

SDK, Close and Stengle next year, each has valid claims for a huge payrise. Agree that it won’t be a factor for the veterans.

Yep i do agree that those three will need payrises (all out of contract next year) and atkins will need a pay bump too.

It wont put as much cap pressure on us as other flag teams though as we have more over 30s than recent flag teams so we wont have as many players to pay bump.