Rumour GFC 2024 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 2

[cats_09]

Ask and we'll try our best to assist - so here's 2024 Provisional AFL Draft Order

As normal, would like to acknowledge & thank Lore for creating this, keeping it up to date and making it available for all users on BF to use and keep track of the picks ahead of the upcoming draft





I'll also sticky this post to ensure it's easily accessible for discussion of our hypothetical trader


Also,

2024 Free Agency Period​

The AFL introduced free agency at the end of the 2012 season, giving players another vehicle where they can transfer from one club to another. Free agency is a common form of player movement in major football and sporting codes around the world.

Free Agency Opens: Friday October 4 at 9.00am
Free Agency Closes: Friday October 11 at 5.00pm

Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period​

Trade Period Opens: Monday October 7 at 9.00am
Trade Period Closes: Wednesday October 16 at 7.30pm

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Pretty sure Hardie would have got more than the 10 touches Bruhn and Mullin got in the Preliminary

We benched Duncan and omitted Tuohy for this. That's close to 600 games of experience overlooked for raw Irish potential that may be realised in a couple of years... Or could become another MOC.

 

[Footy Smarts]

Blame for the goal is plainly inserting words into my mouth. On the night or now.

I just think his influence on JHF is overstated.

So he defended JHF in defensive 50 for probably 50% of the night. And the only goal conceded was a super effort where he got very unlucky. JHF didn't get near it as a forward apart from that.

You think this isn't impressive?

 

[goyoucatters]

At a pinch Stkilda.

But if SDK is happy and committed I'm not trading him no matter what. If he wants out though I'd lean towards trading him now because he's got huge value which could evaporate in a year's time if he struggles.

Given a good run with injury next year, he won't struggle. Will enhance his value in everyone's eyes and then sign a long-term deal to stay at the Cattery. He has so much more to offer over the course of his career. Would not be considering for a second any deal to trade him at this point.

 

[moond0g]

Now you're just talking crap to defend your preconceived bias.

Mullin didn't follow JHF into midfield until the game was over (20 centre bounces to 6 for Mullin).

And the goal was brilliant defence by Mullin to a ball kicked to JHF's advantage followed by an unlucky bounce and poor effort by Blicavs. Putting any of the blame for that on Mullin is absolutely wild.

Not wanting to intrude too much on your argument. But isn't that evidence that Mullin wasn't even tagging JHF rather that that he did a good job? How can you say he did a good job containing him when and then say that for 70% of his CBAs he was nowhere near him?

 

[dont stop me meow]

They had to bring a cooked bews in because he can't defend.

Now you're just talking crap to defend your preconceived bias.

Mullin didn't follow JHF into midfield until the game was over (20 centre bounces to 6 for Mullin).

And the goal was brilliant defence by Mullin to a ball kicked to JHF's advantage followed by an unlucky bounce and poor effort by Blicavs. Putting any of the blame for that on Mullin is absolutely wild.

100% this. Stood there like a statue and did SFA to impact the contest

 

[Footy Smarts]

Given a good run with injury next year, he won't struggle. Will enhance his value in everyone's eyes and then sign a long-term deal to stay at the Cattery. He has so much more to offer over the course of his career. Would not be considering for a second any deal to trade him at this point.

Agree on what I hope happens. He should be ready to explode as a player. But if he's genuinely disillusioned then keeping him is a massive risk.

Obviously if he doesn't request a trade then we don't trade him. But if he does ask for a trade the decision is more about his state of mind and likely attitude if held to his contract rather than anything about his ability.

 

[MacStradbroke]

It was unbelievably frustrating seeing Parfitt and Hardie repeatedly cough it up and have Clark sitting off the back of the contest trying to disrupt a wave of Southport players coming the other way.

At least Clohesy could come up to the contests as an extra mid once the ball was in play and he did that very well against Werribee. I would've been so frustrated if I were Clark.

Yeah agree. Read some scathing comments after the Werribee game, he moved forward in the last quarter and kicked two goals (team only kicked 5 by memory). I’m sure the club had plans in place that we are unaware of.

 

[Footy Smarts]

Not wanting to intrude too much on your argument. But isn't that evidence that Mulling wasn't even tagging JHF rather that that he did a good job? How can you say he did a good job containing him when and then say that for 70% of his CBAs he was nowhere near him?

It was a super tight tag when JHF was forward which was probably half his game time.

Mullin didn't follow him into the middle much so it's pretty unfair to judge him on that time.

And in the first 3 quarters before the game was done JHF had 10 touches and 1 goal. Mullin and our mids did a superb job on him.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

So he defended JHF in defensive 50 for probably 50% of the night. And the only goal conceded was a super effort where he got very unlucky. JHF didn't get near it as a forward apart from that.

You think this isn't impressive?

Had 3 shots. Was marginally off his seasonal average and was named in the best players for Port.

No I don't think he was impressive on him, would have dropped him for the PF, and wouldn't have brought him back late in the season off no discernible VFL form.

 

[D BRIDGE]

Who would give us two top 10 picks for SDK though ?

Probably nobody but as mentioned already... St Kilda at a pinch.

I'm not even sure why I mentioned it, but it must have been that someone else earlier brought it up as I don't think it would happen.

The thing is though... some people are saying they wouldn't trade him for 2x top-10s... so does that mean that he is worth that and it isn't impossible for clubs to want to get him and offer 2x top-10s?

I doubt it happens... but if offered it I think we'd think good and hard about taking it.

As also mention by me and someone else, If we think he might be not 100% committed then now (if offers those picks) is the best chance to cash in on his value.

 

[calder_daddy]

That was a good game. But it's also only 1 game. TBF he's also only kicked 16 goals in 14 SANFL games the last 2 years. So there's also an argument that he hasn't even really performed that well at the second tier. I'm not writing him off, but I can see why others aren't super enthused when his seconds form is similar to Phoenix Foster who we just delisted.

Put it this way. If our VFL side played Ports Sanfl side we would win by 100+
I’m not super enthusiastic about him, but some of the quotes about him are inaccurate and I’m happy to call out bullshit, which it’s just that

 

[Footy Smarts]

Had 3 shots. Was marginally off his seasonal average and was named in the best players for Port.

No I don't think he was impressive on him, would have dropped him for the PF, and wouldn't have brought him back late in the season off no discernible VFL form.

You're unbelievably good at blaming players you don't like for things they didn't do.

1 of the points was from a contested mark on 50 against Atkins late in the 2nd quarter. Mullin wasn't on him.

The other was deep in the 3rd quarter with us 49 points up. Someone (not sure who) lets their opponent free to directly block Mullin giving JHF a clean run. Sweet taps it down directly to JHF and Stanley crudely tackles him around the neck. Again not a lot Mullin did wrong there.

You know the AFL app has highlights of every game for every player? These things are easy to check in about 30 seconds instead of just making shit up and blaming your favourite whipping boy.

 

[year of the cat]

Not saying yes or no.
But with Stanley and Blicavs soon to exit the list would we be more interested in a more mobile style ruck rather than an even more cumbersome player than Conway?

I'm not convinced either but I believe he's durable so would perhaps represent a decent stop gap at worst until Conway or SDK mature physically.

 

[moond0g]

Put it this way. If our VFL side played Ports Sanfl side we would win by 100+
I’m not super enthusiastic about him, but some of the quotes about him are inaccurate and I’m happy to call out bullshit, which it’s just that

That's kind of evidence to the contrary though. If their SANFL side is so poor, surely he should be going at better than a goal a game?

 

[CatToTheFuture]

You owe me 10 minutes of my life back sitting at the pub

I'll give you ten minutes of my life if I can sit at the pub for ten minutes

 

[Art Vandelay_]

You're unbelievably good at blaming players you don't like for things they didn't do.

1 of the points was from a contested mark on 50 against Atkins late in the 2nd quarter. Mullin wasn't on him.

Words in mouth again. This has nothing to do with like. If he begins to play at an AFL standard and warrant his spot I'll enjoy watching him. If he continues to be gifted games and does little I'll continue to call for him to be dropped. Pretty fair system I'd say.

Wasn't on him at stoppages in the midfield.
Wasn't on him for one of his shots.

Apparently did a good job though...

 

[calder_daddy]

That's kind of evidence to the contrary though. If their SANFL side is so poor, surely he should be going at better than a goal a game?

If the ball doesn’t go down there as much im not sure what he’s expected to do.
Just having a look at Ports last game for the year in the sanfl and not knowing who their rookies are I count 4 afl players

Ports team won 4 games for the season and finished last.

It’s debatable if they played in the VFL this year with that side I could’ve been 0

 

[calder_daddy]

I'll give you ten minutes of my life if I can sit at the pub for ten minutes

Nothing stopping you from going out for a lunch meal

 

[Footy Smarts]

If he begins to play at an AFL standard and warrant his spot I'll enjoy watching him.

So you liked the Prelim then? Or are you going to somehow find a way to suggest he wasn't AFL standard then either?

It's a rhetorical question. Of course you'll say he was terrible despite being one of our only players that was clean and composed basically all night.

 

[calder_daddy]

Sitting at a pub today I bumped into the only source I’ve ever had.
Asked about Smith and said like everyone else it’s 100% happening.
Mentioned it will happen next week once the Grand Final is done and was never going to be announced before hand.

Him being in the crowd on the weekend has nothing to do with him not announcing they just want to simply announce it once the GF is over
Suggests Monday or Tuesday.

Martin still a 50/50 chance and hasn’t indicated to the club who he has decided on.

Asked about any other players are he said he’s heard noise but that noise is around every year. Pretty much said don’t get your hopes up this year.
Smith and that could possibly be it if Martin chooses Freo

 

[Oisin_the_Goat]

Probably nobody but as mentioned already... St Kilda at a pinch.

I'm not even sure why I mentioned it, but it must have been that someone else earlier brought it up as I don't think it would happen.

The thing is though... some people are saying they wouldn't trade him for 2x top-10s... so does that mean that he is worth that and it isn't impossible for clubs to want to get him and offer 2x top-10s?

I doubt it happens... but if offered it I think we'd think good and hard about taking it.

As also mention by me and someone else, If we think he might be not 100% committed then now (if offers those picks) is the best chance to cash in on his value.

Absolutely i'd take two top 10 picks for him. Use them on fixing our midfield.

 

[Munich]

We benched Duncan and omitted Tuohy for this. That's close to 600 games of experience overlooked for raw Irish potential that may be realised in a couple of years... Or could become another MOC.

Tuohy wasn't omitted for Mullin. He was left out for Bews.

Or if not, Duncan was subbed for Mullin.

But either way Bews was in when he hadn't been all year. So to say Mullin cost us 600 games of experience is just poppycock.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Nothing stopping you from going out for a lunch meal

I'll let you explain that to my boss

 

[Art Vandelay_]

So you liked the Prelim then? Or are you going to somehow find a way to suggest he wasn't AFL standard then either?

It's a rhetorical question. Of course you'll say he was terrible despite being one of our only players that was clean and composed basically all night

Must have been a different #34 who 60m under light pressure dump kicked the ball inside 50 for a turnover.

I'm not gushing over 10 touches with two clangers. If you want to go ahead. We will agree to disagree.

 

[D BRIDGE]

Gotta love the "walk Smith to the PSD" on the Dogs board.

In all seriousness... I truly believe if we say "15 is our best offer" and sit on it, it will get the job done in the last moments of trade-period.

Letting Smith walk and flushing pick 15 down the toilet would be just cutting of your nose to spite your face stuff.

Especially when they are talking about having a crack at Houston and their current best pick is 32.

I do think we will give a bit more, but the Dog's people seem to think that our R1 plus some steak knives is unreasonable.

This 2x R1s talk is la-la land stuff.