Rumour GFC 2024 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 2

[cats_09]

Ask and we'll try our best to assist - so here's 2024 Provisional AFL Draft Order

As normal, would like to acknowledge & thank Lore for creating this, keeping it up to date and making it available for all users on BF to use and keep track of the picks ahead of the upcoming draft





I'll also sticky this post to ensure it's easily accessible for discussion of our hypothetical trader

 

[supahoops]

Max King

We’ve got a kid kicking 40 a year who’s a whipping boy not sure Max King would fare much better.

 

[PzBlinky]

So 12-1 free kicks the Saints way in the first half...then 14-4 free kicks to the Blues in the second half?

 

[Cataholic]

So 12-1 free kicks the Saints way in the first half...then 14-4 free kicks to the Blues in the second half?

So 16 - 15 ?

 

[PzBlinky]

So 16 - 15 ?

Hah, wrong thread. Sure, final numbers were even but the sheer swing in the free kick count when neither team were particular dominant (Saints up by a few goals in the first, then Blues coming back) felt like weird umpiring. Certainly felt the Saints were perhaps a little unlucky a couple of times in the last quarter and a half I saw.

 

[foxdog50]

Peoples words

Who and what type of players you want this trade period Calder?

 

[calder_daddy]

Who and what type of players you want this trade period Calder?

Mids
A ruckman

 

[petrolium]

If we really rate the depth of this year’s draft, would pick 13-18 this year be better than possibly pick 8-12 next year? The reason I ask this is if so, I think it’d be better to trade our future R1 pick for Smith rather than this year’s R1 pick. Also means that Dogs more likely to accept our future R1 pick on its own rather than needing to add another pick on top of it, given the inherent risk. What are people’s thoughts?

 

[CatToTheFuture]

If we really rate the depth of this year’s draft, would pick 13-18 this year be better than possibly pick 8-12 next year? The reason I ask this is if so, I think it’d be better to trade our future R1 pick for Smith rather than this year’s R1 pick. Also means that Dogs more likely to accept our future R1 pick on its own rather than needing to add another pick on top of it, given the inherent risk. What are people’s thoughts?

You'd want to be real sure about our finishing position next year. A few injuries and the wheels could be falling off

 

[D BRIDGE]

If we really rate the depth of this year’s draft, would pick 13-18 this year be better than possibly pick 8-12 next year? The reason I ask this is if so, I think it’d be better to trade our future R1 pick for Smith rather than this year’s R1 pick. Also means that Dogs more likely to accept our future R1 pick on its own rather than needing to add another pick on top of it, given the inherent risk. What are people’s thoughts?

I'd want the Dog's R2 this year + F2 coming back for our F1... and even then I wouldn't be overly keen.

Our F1 could be anything.

 

[FootyLad0]

You'd want to be real sure about our finishing position next year. A few injuries and the wheels could be falling off

Exactly, I’d rather play with the pick we know than the pick we don’t.

Collingwood is a recent example of why giving up future firsts is a dangerous game

 

[D BRIDGE]

Exactly, I’d rather play with the pick we know than the pick we don’t.

Collingwood is a recent example of why giving up future firsts is a dangerous game

Pies have been caught out a couple of times doing it, but getting Daicos FS made up for it.

Tigers also with plodder Hopper.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Exactly, I’d rather play with the pick we know than the pick we don’t.

Collingwood is a recent example of why giving up future firsts is a dangerous game

Admittedly, little bit different if you're doing it to keep the first this year.

Still has the potential to look pretty bad, but if we were to pick a gun this year and still get Smith, I don't think anyone would be overly worried about next year's first.

Would be more reminiscent of the Holmes deal than the Shultz deal.

 

[D BRIDGE]

Still has the potential to look pretty bad, but if we were to pick a gun this year and still get Smith, I don't think anyone would be overly worried about next year's first.

In the end yes... the proof is in the pudding and if you snag Holmes with it then it's all good.

Certainly risky business though... even if Smith isn't what he once was and that F1 turns into a gun kid.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Admittedly, little bit different if you're doing it to keep the first this year.

Still has the potential to look pretty bad, but if we were to pick a gun this year and still get Smith, I don't think anyone would be overly worried about next year's first.

Would be more reminiscent of the Holmes deal than the Shultz deal.

the Holmes deal though we'd just loaded up with Cameron, Smith, and Higgins. We expected to do well.

Does loading up with Smith and organic growth lend the same confidence? I don't think so

 

[Kobe Gryant]

the Holmes deal though we'd just loaded up with Cameron, Smith, and Higgins. We expected to do well.

Does loading up with Smith and organic growth lend the same confidence? I don't think so

The point is if you get the pick right it's irrelevant.

I don't think Collingwood would give a shit about the pick this year if they had Darcy Wilson & Lachie Shultz for instance.

Instead, they've just got Lachie Shultz, and no pick this year. It's nothing like the Shultz deal, and would be more reminiscent of the Holmes trade if anything.

If we traded two firsts for Smith, then I agree it's very hard to justify and I'd walk away immediately if that's what they want.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

The point is if you get the pick right it's irrelevant.

I don't think Collingwood would give a shit about the pick this year if they had Darcy Wilson & Lachie Shultz for instance.

Instead, they've just got Lachie Shultz, and no pick this year. It's nothing like the Shultz deal, and would be more reminiscent of the Holmes trade if anything.

If we traded two firsts for Smith, then I agree it's very hard to justify and I'd walk away immediately if that's what they want.

I mean yeah, more like a Holmes deal, I was just outlining why I think that's a bad idea

 

[Footy Smarts]

I think the recruiting staff have got enough credits in the bank to back them in.

The last time we traded a future first people were filthy at it but we got Holmes. We were the only team with Humphries on our radar.

The club will be well aware of the risks and what ifs. But ultimately if they see something of enough value to want to pull the trigger you've got to back them in at this point.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

If we really rate the depth of this year’s draft, would pick 13-18 this year be better than possibly pick 8-12 next year? The reason I ask this is if so, I think it’d be better to trade our future R1 pick for Smith rather than this year’s R1 pick. Also means that Dogs more likely to accept our future R1 pick on its own rather than needing to add another pick on top of it, given the inherent risk. What are people’s thoughts?

No.

 

[D BRIDGE]

Wish this Lore's person would get the provisional draft pick thing at the top screen updated/or correct.

 

[cats_09]

Wish this Lore's person would get the provisional draft pick thing at the top screen updated/or correct.

They will - Lore is a mod and also has a life outside of BF

The provisional draft order takes a bit of work & time, so it's not always updated after each round during the season but it will be updated in due course, especially now that things are getting a bit more known

We're not at trade time they, so surely it's not a big issue if it takes a couple of days to update at this time of the season

 

[D BRIDGE]

They will - Lore is a mod and also has a life outside of BF

The provisional draft order takes a bit of work & time, so it's not always updated after each round during the season but it will be updated in due course, especially now that things are getting a bit more known

We're not at trade time they, so surely it's not a big issue if it takes a couple of days to update at this time of the season

I think it's been off for a few weeks now... Although I might be wrong.

If someone is going in and doing it manually then I understand it can/will take time depending on the person's situation doing it.

I honestly thought they had built some automated system and the computer just calculates it all and spits it out depending on the ladder position applied in the system.

No doubt with the H&A finishing up it'll be handy to see and a good time to get it correct.

I appreciate whoever does it... It is a good tool.

 

[dazbroncos]

I think it's been off for a few weeks now... Although I might be wrong.

If someone is going in and doing it manually then I understand it can/will take time depending on the person's situation doing it.

I honestly thought they had built some automated system and the computer just calculates it all and spits it out depending on the ladder position applied in the system.

No doubt with the H&A finishing up it'll be handy to see and a good time to get it correct.

I appreciate whoever does it... It is a good tool.

I do think sometimes the actual time and effort involved in getting these things done gets lost in the mix.....

GO Catters

 

[LongtimeFirsttime]

Is there anywhere to see a list of players out of contract this year?

To mind, players without a contract currently include - Parfitt, Jeka, Rohan, Kolo, Willis, Bews, Hardie, Duncan, O Henry, Murdoch, Danger, Foster, Stanley, & Clohesy.

If that's about correct, I would say definite keeps are - Kolo, O Henry, Danger.

Up to them - Rohan, Duncan, Stanley.

Which leaves - Parfitt, Jeka, Willis, Bews, Hardie, Murdoch, Foster, & Clohesy.

Who do we keep, and who goes?

 

[cats_09]

Is there anywhere to see a list of players out of contract this year?

To mind, players without a contract currently include - Parfitt, Jeka, Rohan, Kolo, Willis, Bews, Hardie, Duncan, O Henry, Murdoch, Danger, Foster, Stanley, & Clohesy.

If that's about correct, I would say definite keeps are - Kolo, O Henry, Danger.

Up to them - Rohan, Duncan, Stanley.

Which leaves - Parfitt, Jeka, Willis, Bews, Hardie, Murdoch, Foster, & Clohesy.

Who do we keep, and who goes?

Footywire is an option, but be aware it isn't always 100% accurate - for example, Bowes is under contract:

AFL Out of Contract Players in 2024

List of AFL players coming out of contract at the end of 2024.

www.footywire.com

The other option is checking out our sub-forum, Cat-Scan - dazbroncos does a mighty fine job of keeping that up to date

Senior - Player contract status list

Following in from a thread on the main board I copied this from fanfooty and not sure how accurate it is UPDATED Aug 19 2024 - List finalised and numbers allocated. Contract status expiry by year 2024 1. Rhys Stanley 2024 Rhys Stanley Article Link 2. Zach Touhy 2024: Zac Touhy Article Link...

www.bigfooty.com

 

[dazbroncos]

Is there anywhere to see a list of players out of contract this year?

To mind, players without a contract currently include - Parfitt, Jeka, Rohan, Kolo, Willis, Bews, Hardie, Duncan, O Henry, Murdoch, Danger, Foster, Stanley, & Clohesy.

If that's about correct, I would say definite keeps are - Kolo, O Henry, Danger.

Up to them - Rohan, Duncan, Stanley.

Which leaves - Parfitt, Jeka, Willis, Bews, Hardie, Murdoch, Foster, & Clohesy.

Who do we keep, and who goes?

you mean like this?

Senior - Player contract status list

Following in from a thread on the main board I copied this from fanfooty and not sure how accurate it is UPDATED Aug 19 2024 - List finalised and numbers allocated. Contract status expiry by year 2024 1. Rhys Stanley 2024 Rhys Stanley Article Link 2. Zach Touhy 2024: Zac Touhy Article Link...

www.bigfooty.com

GO Catters