Rumour GFC 2024 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 2

[cats_09]

Ask and we'll try our best to assist - so here's 2024 Provisional AFL Draft Order

As normal, would like to acknowledge & thank Lore for creating this, keeping it up to date and making it available for all users on BF to use and keep track of the picks ahead of the upcoming draft





I'll also sticky this post to ensure it's easily accessible for discussion of our hypothetical trader


Also,

2024 Free Agency Period​

The AFL introduced free agency at the end of the 2012 season, giving players another vehicle where they can transfer from one club to another. Free agency is a common form of player movement in major football and sporting codes around the world.

Free Agency Opens: Friday October 4 at 9.00am
Free Agency Closes: Friday October 11 at 5.00pm

Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period​

Trade Period Opens: Monday October 7 at 9.00am
Trade Period Closes: Wednesday October 16 at 7.30pm

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I thought Rohan does his best ground work with the physio. I'm not sure how many quick goals he scored in that match but surely that alone qualifies for another season at our club.

Username seems to align with interests

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Heard today from 2 separate sources that no club will go near smith as he's not well so to speak. Dogs will have to throw in plenty to offload him it seems

He's OOC.

There's nothing holding him there, and there's no incentive for the Dogs to have to give something up to get him off their books.

If the Dogs think he's more trouble than he's worth then they don't have to do anything. They could just cut him, and hopefully get him the help he needs and put footy on hold.

Are you sure you're not thinking of Oliver?

 

[FootyLad0]

Heard today from 2 separate sources that no club will go near smith as he's not well so to speak. Dogs will have to throw in plenty to offload him it seems

If that’s the case, Cats will be doing what they did with Mitch Clark, Jack Steven and Tyson Stengle.
Bet on culture and club outreach to help get these guys mentally back to a good place.

I’d imagine getting Baz away from the Melbourne bubble would help immensely.
Sometimes you just need a change of scenery or a change up in your life to make it all click.

Does it always work? No and you’d be naive to think it always will.

But I back our guys to wrap their arms around blokes and bring the best out of them.
We’ve done it with plenty of troubled or complicated blokes in the past.

Don’t be surprised if Bailey gets the same help from Hocko, Craig Drummond, the coaching crew and the lads.
Can see Jezza mentoring him

 

[D BRIDGE]

Heard today from 2 separate sources that no club will go near smith as he's not well so to speak. Dogs will have to throw in plenty to offload him it seems

Not sure if I'd put too much coin on that being correct info.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

He's OOC.

There's nothing holding him there, and there's no incentive for the Dogs to have to give something up to get him off their books.

If the Dogs think he's more trouble than he's worth then they don't have to do anything. They could just cut him, and hopefully get him the help he needs and put footy on hold.

Are you sure you're not thinking of Oliver?

Nah I reckon they know who they're talking about.

I think there seem to be a couple of significant differences to Oliver's situation

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Not sure if I'd put too much coin on that being correct info.

I can see the first sentence being on the money and the second sentence a misinterpreted comment

 

[D BRIDGE]

I can see the first sentence being on the money and the second sentence a misinterpreted comment

I can't. I reckon that info would be out if true by now.

If it is true though and for whatever reason the press never mentions it... then we will get confirmation with the trade deal and how little we/or whoever he goes to give for him.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Nah I reckon they know who they're talking about.

I think there seem to be a couple of significant differences to Oliver's situation

If they know who they're talking about then it doesn't make sense...

The Dogs haven't got any commitment to Smith. There's no reason for them to attach anything to the deal to get rid of him, they can just just cut him and nothing happens.

OP is suggesting a Bowes esque deal where the Dogs have to provide something to get opposition clubs to do the deal. It makes zero sense from a Dogs POV, Smith isn't contracted.

It would be like us doing this:

"Hey guys, here's James Willis and a first round pick. We were going to delist him anyway, but we just thought we'd be charitable for the sake of it"

I suggested they might be thinking of Oliver because that at least checks out.

The Dees would need to offer an incentive to get a club to take Oliver onboard, that's not the case with Smith.

 

[Interdimensional Bigfoot]

Given there's a number of posters on here who have only ever made a 'big deal' about Rhys when they're apparently losing their minds about his supposed underperformance, he might have simply decided that it's just not worth the collective angst the mere mention of his name invokes for some across the supporter base.

#communityservicemoment
#bennycassweseeyou
#onyarhys
#respect

Supposed?

#delusional

 

[OzeSparky]

Chris Scott gave a pretty good indication today in his press conference re Duncan and Rohan.

Stopped short of saying both would 100% be there next season, but seemed to indicate that contracts had been put in front of both. Rohan (when fit) has some assets (when fit) and still has his leg speed and marking for his size. And can impact games. Duncan I fear is cooked and might fall into the category of "I played on one year too many" if we assess this time next year.

If Duncan is best 22 next season I think we have problems.

Rohan was told last year this would be his last. Too get a extra year is a bonus for him, but as he has kept his speed I can see why.

 

[FootyLad0]

I've heard he wants to go on

I’ve heard the exact opposite.
He only played on this year to help the club transition to Conway, he was gonna finish up last year.

 

[OzeSparky]

I’ve heard the exact opposite.
He only played on this year to help the club transition to Conway, he was gonna finish up last year.

Yep he was going to Retire. The club really twisted his arm to play on.
And he has limped through.
hopefully he can get on a strong run from now on.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I've heard he wants to go on

Rhys has already told everyone hes retiring. I assume he just doesnt want a public announcement now.

 

[FootyLad0]

Rhys has already told everyone hes retiring. I assume he just doesnt want a public announcement now.

Rhys is a low key kind of guy, makes total sense he’d do it without fanfare

 

[Oisin_the_Goat]

Comes back to what would you prefer?

The experience, on and off-field coaching, and spasmodic brilliance of Mitch Duncan?

...Or pick 78 in the draft? Keep in mind we'll already be taking several picks just before then.

It's chalk and cheese. If we've got a Dempsey or Humphries stashed away then we'll find them regardless, we don't need the list spot and the token pick in expense of Duncan.

Finding the next Jake Tarca and giving him a two year deal over the one year deal that Duncan will command makes zero sense.

Seems to me like we can turn pick 78 into a winner though

 

[Oisin_the_Goat]

I would look at Max King

12

Max King

Age

24

Ht

202cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.3

2star

K

4.7

2star

HB

2.6

2star

M

2.7

3star

T

0.7

3star

G

1.4

5star

D

7.3

2star

K

4.7

2star

HB

2.6

2star

M

2.7

3star

T

0.7

1star

G

1.4

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.2

2star

HB

2.8

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

0.6

3star

G

1.4

5star

. Has confidence issues atm but he's always been at a crap club. Has the capability.

 

[dazbroncos]

Talk about this draft being deep and even from 5 - 30.

Is Smith worth the squeeze if the Dogs push too hard?

Dont want to give up too much for him. Not saying he has no value nor we should only give massive unders but Rd1 and Rd2 this year seems overs...

Rd1 and FR3 maybe but Rd1 this year is the starting place.

And anything FR1 or FR2 must be maintained.

With Tassie coming and the Tuggers gutting and reloading the picking will be slim in future years.

Lots to consider especially with the AFL and their academy darlings just getting kissed on the dick year on year now with picks and concessions still.

GO Catters

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I would look at Max King. Has confidence issues atm but he's always been at a crap club. Has the capability.

I don't see a massive difference to Neale in his current output. His brother has been at a crap club for his whole career and is 3rd in the Coleman

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Talk about this draft being deep and even from 5 - 30.

Is Smith worth the squeeze if the Dogs push too hard?

Dont want to give up too much for him. Not saying he has no value nor we should only give massive unders but Rd1 and Rd2 this year seems overs...

Rd1 and FR3 maybe but Rd1 this year is the starting place.

And anything FR1 or FR2 must be maintained.

With Tassie coming and the Tuggers gutting and reloading the picking will be slim in future years.

Lots to consider especially with the AFL and their academy darlings just getting kissed on the dick year on year now with picks and concessions still.

GO Catters

I think the dogs are moving past him at a rate of knots and I don't think they'll feel hard done by when he is traded out.

That said I think the real midfield talent in this year looks top 10 and I wouldn't take anything at our pick over baz.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

I would look at Max King. Has confidence issues atm but he's always been at a crap club. Has the capability.

Yeah Nah... Another SuperHypedSpud.
Very little footy nous and forward craft, less than his brother who is just BOG average in my opinion.
Rory Lobb has them(King Bros) covered and thats not saying much TBH.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Talk about this draft being deep and even from 5 - 30.

Is Smith worth the squeeze if the Dogs push too hard?

Dont want to give up too much for him. Not saying he has no value nor we should only give massive unders but Rd1 and Rd2 this year seems overs...

Rd1 and FR3 maybe but Rd1 this year is the starting place.

And anything FR1 or FR2 must be maintained.

With Tassie coming and the Tuggers gutting and reloading the picking will be slim in future years.

Lots to consider especially with the AFL and their academy darlings just getting kissed on the dick year on year now with picks and concessions still.

GO Catters

Perfect scenario to use a Future 1st.
A nice pick in the teens(15-19) this year would be kinda nice with plenty of quality players available this year IMO.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Yeah Nah... Another SuperHypedSpud.
Very little footy nous and forward craft, less than his brother who is just BOG average in my opinion.
Rory Lobb has them(King Bros) covered and thats not saying much TBH.

Would caveat by saying Ben looks pretty good. 3rd in the Coleman in a side that didn't make the 8

 

[dazbroncos]

Prob with FR1 next year tku really think we’ll be this high again?

Don’t wanna give FR1 for Baz and give away pick 8-11
next year

Go Catters

 

[Warhorse]

Yeah Nah... Another SuperHypedSpud.
Very little footy nous and forward craft, less than his brother who is just BOG average in my opinion.
Rory Lobb has them(King Bros) covered and thats not saying much TBH.

This is a very poor take. He went from 22 goals in 2020, 38 goals in 2021 and then 52 goals in 2022. Was clearly on the way up before struck by injury. Someone with very little footy nous doesn't kick 52 goals in a year.

You can argue he is not a good list fit or injury prone etc but he clearly has a high level of talent which St Kilda is struggling to get enough out of him. We would struggle to get a player of his talent in the top 10 of any draft

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Prob with FR1 next year tku really think we’ll be this high again?

Don’t wanna give FR1 for Baz and give away pick 8-11
next year

Go Catters

Yeah I would be shocked if any future picks went out for him