Rumour GFC 2024 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 2

[cats_09]

Ask and we'll try our best to assist - so here's 2024 Provisional AFL Draft Order

As normal, would like to acknowledge & thank Lore for creating this, keeping it up to date and making it available for all users on BF to use and keep track of the picks ahead of the upcoming draft





I'll also sticky this post to ensure it's easily accessible for discussion of our hypothetical trader


Also,

2024 Free Agency Period​

The AFL introduced free agency at the end of the 2012 season, giving players another vehicle where they can transfer from one club to another. Free agency is a common form of player movement in major football and sporting codes around the world.

Free Agency Opens: Friday October 4 at 9.00am
Free Agency Closes: Friday October 11 at 5.00pm

Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period​

Trade Period Opens: Monday October 7 at 9.00am
Trade Period Closes: Wednesday October 16 at 7.30pm

 

[Larry Donohue]

Should have gone hard for Houston

 

[Schmegg]

I do too, gotta try things

Sounds like he has a point to prove to Voss (a bit like Dow last year) so maybe motivated to play career best footy.

 

[MacStradbroke]

Sounds like he has a point to prove to Voss (a bit like Dow last year) so maybe motivated to play career best footy.

When did Dow play career best footy?

 

[FishGutz]

That third quarter is going to haunt me for a long time. Why we kept going down the MCC wing has me f••••d. We had switches on, in particular Humphries again and again and just kept playing straight into Brisbane’s hands. That on top of our biggest weakness - the midfield. Turned out to be too much. I am utterly depressed and shattered. To the point the inevitable Smith announcement will do nothing to move me. Genuinely hate football on days like these. I’ll come good… maybe just after the next premiership win.


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[Pure_Ownage]

Smith - get him.

Go hard for Oliver.

We need 2 star mids

Oliver is cooked.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

That third quarter is going to haunt me for a long time. Why we kept going down the MCC wing has me f••••d. We had switches on, in particular Humphries again and again and just kept playing straight into Brisbane’s hands. That on top of our biggest weakness - the midfield. Turned out to be too much. I am utterly depressed and shattered. To the point the inevitable Smith announcement will do nothing to move me. Genuinely hate football on days like these. I’ll come good… maybe just after the next premiership win.


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I feel you for the same reasons.

 

[Del226680]

I keep forgetting that if we do add Bailey Smith

6

Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

to our midfield, we will also add a fully fit Cam Guthrie aswell

 

[Kobe Gryant]

I keep forgetting that if we do add Bailey Smith to our midfield, we will also add a fully fit Cam Guthrie aswell

I'm an optimist with footy. Life is too short and the game isn't important enough to worry yourself with negatives.

With that being said, we cannot - under any circumstances - be accounting "fully fit Cam Guthrie" into our plans next year IMO.

We said the exact same thing last year, and it actually somehow got worse.

Even if he does stay fit, we have no idea what Cam at full health looks like anymore. It certainly didn't look awe inspiring when we saw it this year.

If we're talking about internal factors that can make us take that next step, it's the youngsters where we should be placing our faith.

Hopefully Holmes, Henry, Humphries, Bruhn, SDK, Mullin, & Mannagh can take the next step (which varies for each of them) and COS, Clohesy, Clark, & Conway can surprise.

When we talking external factors, then that's Bailey Smith & Co, which you rightly point out.

 

[Del226680]

I'm an optimist with footy. Life is too short and the game isn't important enough to worry yourself with negatives.

With that being said, we cannot - under any circumstances - be accounting "fully fit Cam Guthrie" into our plans next year IMO.

We said the exact same thing last year, and it actually somehow got worse.

Even if he does stay fit, we have no idea what Cam at full health looks like anymore. It certainly didn't look awe inspiring when we saw it this year.

If we're talking about internal factors that can make us take that next step, it's the youngsters where we should be placing our faith.

Hopefully Holmes, Henry, Humphries, Bruhn, SDK, Mullin, & Mannagh can take the next step (which varies for each of them) and COS, Clohesy, Clark, & Conway can surprise.

When we talking external factors, then that's Bailey Smith & Co, which you rightly point out.

Yep that’s fair.

I guess I’m more ‘hoping’ to add a fully fit 2022 Cam Guthrie because Christ we’ve missed him the last two seasons

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I keep forgetting that if we do add Bailey Smith to our midfield, we will also add a fully fit Cam Guthrie aswell

I'm pretty confident of landing bailey smith for next year, but I'm sceptical we're adding a fully fit can Guthrie to the midfield rotation.

When he can't back mid season he played predominantly off HB and that's where i expect him to stay

 

[Schmegg]

When did Dow play career best footy?

More a comment about Kennedy, not necessarily about Dow (although before he was dropped for finals he had been pretty good for Carlton).

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Ok I feel like this is the baseline we need to work with. How do we improve this?

Ff: Stengle Cameron OHenry
Hf: Miers Neale Close
C: Dempsey Bruhn Holmes
Hb: Stewart Kolo Humphries
Fb: Zuth SDK JHenry
Fol: Conway Smith Danger
I: Bews Atkins Mannagh Bowes

S: Duncan
E: Mullin Knevitt Clohesy

 

[MisterMarcus]

When did Dow play career best footy?

I mean...."mediocre" is Career Best for Dow so far....

 

[Schmegg]

Ok I feel like this is the baseline we need to work with. How do we improve this?

Ff: Stengle Cameron OHenry
Hf: Miers Neale Close
C: Dempsey Bruhn Holmes
Hb: Stewart Kolo Humphries
Fb: Zuth SDK JHenry
Fol: Conway Smith Danger
I: Bews Atkins Mannagh Bowes

S: Duncan
E: Mullin Knevitt Clohesy

There is no way we can seriously take Duncan into a new season in the senior squad.

 

[year of the cat]

Ok I feel like this is the baseline we need to work with. How do we improve this?

Ff: Stengle Cameron OHenry
Hf: Miers Neale Close
C: Dempsey Bruhn Holmes
Hb: Stewart Kolo Humphries
Fb: Zuth SDK JHenry
Fol: Conway Smith Danger
I: Bews Atkins Mannagh Bowes

S: Duncan
E: Mullin Knevitt Clohesy

I really think that thought should be given to whether Bews and Duncan play on. If we are to progress Atkins needs replacing with a midfielder with more class.

Mullin should hopefully continue to develop to become a regular.

O’Sullivan after another pre season should be aiming to play a decent block of games next season.

I even hope to see Edwards debut. Think he has more forward craft than Neale and is just likely to be a better player. He can play a forward/ruck role. Like to see him play a few games.

Stewart is now starting to concern me a little. I think we’ve probably seen his best. He will still be a fine player next season but I don’t think we can necessarily bank on him playing to the same level as we are used to seeing.

Need to target more mids.

 

[catman2006]

There is no way we can seriously take Duncan into a new season in the senior squad.

With the current gameplan Parfitt and Duncan are cooked.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

There is no way we can seriously take Duncan into a new season in the senior squad.

I think he's been ok and I would be fine to give him one more year. It wouldn't be worse than Tuohy and we aren't hard up for list spots

 

[Schmegg]

I think he's been ok and I would be fine to give him one more year. It wouldn't be worse than Tuohy and we aren't hard up for list spots

He’s far too slow, the game has passed him by, even with very limited time yesterday he managed two key turnovers which led to Brisbane goals and got caught when he could have kicked one himself at our end.

Not only that he has a penchant to avoid as much physical contact as possible now.

 

[dangerwood]

I was lukewarm on Kennedy. Last night has made me think we should go for him. He is at least better than Atkins (I'm not having a dig), but he undoubtedly improves us. Smith and Kennedy in....could've been a different result.

 

[Schmegg]

I was lukewarm on Kennedy. Last night has made me think we should go for him. He is at least better than Atkins (I'm not having a dig), but he undoubtedly improves us. Smith and Kennedy in....could've been a different result.

Our issue is we do have some very mid level midfielders, and we are deluding ourselves about running this group out there three years in a row without seriously injecting some talent into the midfield. Danger isn’t getting younger, Holmes will improved and hopefully Clark will too, but we need to improve our baseline midfield.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I really think that thought should be given to whether Bews and Duncan play on. If we are to progress Atkins needs replacing with a midfielder with more class.

Mullin should hopefully continue to develop to become a regular.

O’Sullivan after another pre season should be aiming to play a decent block of games next season.

I even hope to see Edwards debut. Think he has more forward craft than Neale and is just likely to be a better player. He can play a forward/ruck role. Like to see him play a few games.

Stewart is now starting to concern me a little. I think we’ve probably seen his best. He will still be a fine player next season but I don’t think we can necessarily bank on him playing to the same level as we are used to seeing.

Need to target more mids.

Duncan's year this year was not worse than Touhys last year, though I didn't want Touhy extended.

Bews has been ok and worth it just to give us an option between him and Mullin.

Most importantly there's no point retiring these guys because we will have so many list spots open.

Out:
Hawkins
Tuohy
Rohan
Foster
Murdoch
Parfitt

In:
Smith
Maybe a 2nd round pick
4-5 picks taken after 50

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I really think that thought should be given to whether Bews and Duncan play on. If we are to progress Atkins needs replacing with a midfielder with more class.

Mullin should hopefully continue to develop to become a regular.

O’Sullivan after another pre season should be aiming to play a decent block of games next season.

I even hope to see Edwards debut. Think he has more forward craft than Neale and is just likely to be a better player. He can play a forward/ruck role. Like to see him play a few games.

Stewart is now starting to concern me a little. I think we’ve probably seen his best. He will still be a fine player next season but I don’t think we can necessarily bank on him playing to the same level as we are used to seeing.

Need to target more mids.

Also, I'm not expecting more than a token couple of games from COS, and I don't expect to see Edwards for another couple of years. Edwards might turn out to be an amazing ruckman but with his frame and the ruck rules now you may as well ruck Dangerfield instead

 

[CatToTheFuture]

He’s far too slow, the game has passed him by, even with very limited time yesterday he managed two key turnovers which led to Brisbane goals and got caught when he could have kicked one himself at our end.

Not only that he has a penchant to avoid as much physical contact as possible now.

He isn't alone on having a bad one last night, and i stress i only had him as the sub in that 23, but he adds more than some high school picked with a 5th rounder.

Humphries has been a revelation but the chances of another are very slim

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I was lukewarm on Kennedy. Last night has made me think we should go for him. He is at least better than Atkins (I'm not having a dig), but he undoubtedly improves us. Smith and Kennedy in....could've been a different result.

Smith i think would've changed the outcome but I don't think kennedy is going to change any outcomes in any meaningful way next year. Then after that we're stuck with him at a point we need to be looking for better mids.

 

[year of the cat]

Duncan's year this year was not worse than Touhys last year, though I didn't want Touhy extended.

Bews has been ok and worth it just to give us an option between him and Mullin.

Most importantly there's no point retiring these guys because we will have so many list spots open.

Out:
Hawkins
Tuohy
Rohan
Foster
Murdoch
Parfitt

In:
Smith
Maybe a 2nd round pick
4-5 picks taken after 50

Ultimately it may come down to what Duncan wants to do. If he’s just hanging on to play 300 then I’m not sure that’s continuing for the right reasons? Like others I just see a player that looks done now. Humphries has shown you can get valuable players at the back end of the draft and this one coming up is deep.

He may well play on and retire early allowing us a mid season draft pick. That may be a reasonable compromise?

I think Bews can go. He was fringe most of the season. Reckon that we can cover him ok.

I see what you are saying re list spots though. We like to stagger our retirements. But I don’t like to see players go on one season too many too.