Rumour GFC 2024 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 3

[cats_09]

Here's 2024 Provisional AFL Draft Order

Cheers to Lore for their hard work in setting this up, and making it available for all users on BF to use and keep track of the picks ahead of the upcoming draft - and please practice patience grasshoppers if it's not updated in the immediate aftermath of completed trade





I'll also sticky this post to ensure it's easily accessible for discussion of our hypothetical trader


Also,

2024 Draft and Trade Period Key Dates​

Oct 17 to Nov 8: Pick swap window
Nov 1 to Nov 8: Delisted free agency period
Nov 20-21: Telstra AFL Draft
Nov 22: Telstra Pre-Season Draft and Rookie Draft

 

[CatRiot]

Whoever we end up drafting I think we need a tall big bodied mid. Hotton looks to be yet another in the Bruhn, Clark, Aitkins mold. No mid under 187 cms

You don't rate Smith, Holmes and Knevitt?

 

[CatRiot]

Would we look at Shanahan?

 

[Gunf]

Hitouts are in general a useless thing anyway

Yep hit outs as a stat are completely useless without the context of hitouts to advantage or disadvantage etc

 

[bombersboy]

You don't rate Smith, Holmes and Knevitt?

I rate them all especially Holmes but they are not inside mids and I think we need a big bull inside mid.

 

[gogeelongcats]

I rate them all especially Holmes but they are not inside mids and I think we need a big bull inside mid.

Clayton Oliver, anywhere near his top, would be an ideal addition as an inside bull. Danger is becoming injury prone and is understandably on the decline. Bruhn improvement this year would not surprise.

 

[Brewskies]

Being Joel home

This whole process to me is becoming a bit of an eye sore and a negative impact on the culture of AFL.
The amount of teams that are now just delisting players and saying they will redraft them as rookies is ridiculous.
For me if you are delisted from a senior list it should be that that team cannot draft you as a rookie as clubs are treating list spots as a joke and as a way to reduce salary cap etc.

 

[frggr]

Good to see Stanley, Duncan and Dangerfield resign.

Also Cillian Burke has signed on! Woooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Geelong has signed exciting young Irish talent Cillian Burke as a Category B rookie ahead of the 2025 AFL season.



Recruited out of Kerry, the same Gaelic club as fellow Irishman and Cats midfielder Mark O’Connor, Burke has impressed back home with his athleticism, speed and ball skills.



Viewed by many as one of the Gaelic Athletic Association’s most promising and a highly touted youngsters, at 21 years of age, Burke will arrive in Australia in late November and join the Cats for the beginning of the 2025 pre-season.




Burke is set to be the seventh Irish-born player at Geelong in 2025, joining Oisin Mullin and Mark O’Connor on the AFL list, with Kate Kenny, Aishling Moloney, Rachel Kearns and Anna-Rose Kennedy all playing a key role in Geelong’s 2024 AFLW season.



“Cillian is a very athletic and a talented prospect, we are thrilled he has decided to join Geelong and can’t wait to welcome him to Australia next month,” Geelong General Manager – Football Andrew Mackie

Andrew Mackie

Age

40

Ht

193cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.2

5star

K

12.6

5star

HB

6.6

4star

M

5.7

5star

T

2.1

4star

MG

346.7

5star

No current season stats available

D

9.0

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.2

4star

said.



“A very established GGA player, we understand Cillian has made a big life decision to move to Australia. We will support him and have a plan in place to make a smooth transition to the Cats and our football program.”

 

[Lana]

This whole process to me is becoming a bit of an eye sore and a negative impact on the culture of AFL.
The amount of teams that are now just delisting players and saying they will redraft them as rookies is ridiculous.
For me if you are delisted from a senior list it should be that that team cannot draft you as a rookie as clubs are treating list spots as a joke and as a way to reduce salary cap etc.

It has zero cap effect, it just lets a club draft an extra player in the national draft.

The cost is that it risks a different team stealing your player, and if they were contracted you end up paying the difference between the base wage and their salary for them to play for a different team.

 

[Jimmy Yamazaki]

Cillian highlights

 

[CatRiot]

Good to see Stanley, Duncan and Dangerfield resign.

Also Cillian Burke has signed on! Woooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Burke, there's your flanker recruited this off-season... I suspect he is more a Forward, but I think he will be a Winger or Back Flanker, history suggests the Irish guys usually transition to the backline easier it seems...

 

[CatRiot]

Cillian highlights

He looks like he has more upside than O'Connor and Mullins...

 

[Boxhead_31]

Cillian highlights

The Kerry Football Factory delivers again

 

[Brewskies]

It has zero cap effect, it just lets a club draft an extra player in the national draft.

The cost is that it risks a different team stealing your player, and if they were contracted you end up paying the difference between the base wage and their salary for them to play for a different team.

To me it just shows poor list management. The AFL needs to either stop it or rename the rookie list as rookie list to me means players that haven't been in the AFL system

 

[Lana]

To me it just shows poor list management. The AFL needs to either stop it or rename the rookie list as rookie list to me means players that haven't been in the AFL system

I don't think it really matters what the list is called, there are web browser extensions that you can use that automatically swap one phrase for another

It is good list management, they trade their last Rookie Pick for a much earlier pick and all it costs them is that they have to commit to the player for an extra year.

 

[Cataholic]

Good to see Stanley, Duncan and Dangerfield resign.

Also Cillian Burke has signed on! Woooooooooooooooooooooooo!

I'm hoping the necessity to play Duncan next year doesn't have to extend past getting him to 300.....if he becomes a fixture we'll be having a problem I'd suggest.

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Would we look at Shanahan?

Will be gone before our pick unless we trade into 15-30, range.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

It has zero cap effect, it just lets a club draft an extra player in the national draft.

The cost is that it risks a different team stealing your player, and if they were contracted you end up paying the difference between the base wage and their salary for them to play for a different team.

And also you make them UFA for life.

 

[Burtyl78]

Surely we can trade our firsts from next year for one of Richmonds first rounders this year, not that we won’t make a mess of it as we generally struggle with our early picks now that Oliver is unlikely

 

[Turbocat]

This whole process to me is becoming a bit of an eye sore and a negative impact on the culture of AFL.
The amount of teams that are now just delisting players and saying they will redraft them as rookies is ridiculous.
For me if you are delisted from a senior list it should be that that team cannot draft you as a rookie as clubs are treating list spots as a joke and as a way to reduce salary cap etc.

Its probably time to get rid of the Rookie list..If you can seperate R1 into 3 year contracts… just have R4 players and back given 1 year contracts or the same contractual criteria as Rookies get now.

 

[ShaunWDT]

I rate them all especially Holmes but they are not inside mids and I think we need a big bull inside mid.

Club would be hoping Knevitt ends up being one considering they drafted him off playing that role in juniors, I think he'll get there if he adds some more size aswell was very good when given free reign on ball in the twos this year.

 

[Yort15]

For those keeping track, how many list spots do we currently have open/how many picks can we take in the national draft?

Also do any of our rookies need to be promoted this year?

 

[ShadowCat]

Called Cillian as a speculative in weeks ago, happy to be proven right!

Yort15 this is a breakdown of our list as it stands:

OUT: (Senior List) Hawkins, Rohan, Tuohy, Parfitt, Foster, Willis,
OUT: (Rookie List) Jeka, Hardie, O. Murdoch
OUT: (Cat B Rookie) Furphy

IN: (Senior List) B. Smith, J. Martin, ????
IN: (Rookie List) ???
IN: (Cat B Rookie) C. Burke

Spots remaining - 4 in the ND and 3 Rookie spots. Also a possibility of trading our Futures into this draft - as we hold all of them. None of our rookies currently need to be promoted.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

For those keeping track, how many list spots do we currently have open/how many picks can we take in the national draft?

Also do any of our rookies need to be promoted this year?

Without going into who is on what list we have 36 37 of a possible 44

Edit: forgot to add Killer

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Cliff status update:

Current list average age: 26.1 years

List age assuming we add 6x draftees at an average age of 20 and a 26 year old Furphy replacement: 25.3 years

Still would have been second oldest last year