News Giants in the Media: Important announcement 13/11/24

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GWS Goose said:
very oversimplified analysis. The expected score metric is flawed.
If you miss a shot, you are an increased chance of getting a second shot via a kick out as opposed to a centre bounce.
We have been very accurate, but we are also taking good shots because we are setting up deep entries.
We are also making the opposition take tough shots because we defend deep entries well.
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Teams getting it to 45m out then having ball come in and out 3-4 times in a back and forth get a bunch of inside 50s recorded …. We get it in deep and hold it in and get just 1 inside 50 recorded
 
Orange crush said:
Teams getting it to 45m out then having ball come in and out 3-4 times in a back and forth get a bunch of inside 50s recorded …. We get it in deep and hold it in and get just 1 inside 50 recorded
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exactly
 
Also people use expected score as a be-all end-all metric for scores. It's definitely useful to get a feel for how a game played, but a lot more goes into a shot at goal than what actually gets put into xScore. Momentum, mindset, fatigue, pressure etc etc it all adds up. Like Goose said, repeat behinds = more scores. If a team happens to miss two easy shots it could put them up 8 or more points on xScore but a team taking only one from a difficult spot might end up being down 3 points on xscore without an 'easy' chance of another score. I understand that it should even out somewhat, but it doesn't have to every time.

That isn't to say we haven't got lucky with out opponents goal kicking and our accuracy, but I don't think it's as big a deal as some think.
 

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From last night's Essendon-Sydney match report on the AFL website:

Sydney now sits two games clear atop the ladder with Port Adelaide, Geelong and Brisbane all still to play this weekend, and one round left in the home and away season. While it's possible those three sides could all win two matches and equal the Swans on 64 points, Sydney's percentage of 126.3 gives them a handy buffer ahead of the chasing pack, even if it was to lose dramatically next week.

Anyone notice something wrong?
 
Land of the Giants said:
From last night's Essendon-Sydney match report on the AFL website:

Sydney now sits two games clear atop the ladder with Port Adelaide, Geelong and Brisbane all still to play this weekend, and one round left in the home and away season. While it's possible those three sides could all win two matches and equal the Swans on 64 points, Sydney's percentage of 126.3 gives them a handy buffer ahead of the chasing pack, even if it was to lose dramatically next week.

Anyone notice something wrong?
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Ahem…where’s mention of the Giants? We are equal on points with Port and Geelong?
 
Land of the Giants said:
From last night's Essendon-Sydney match report on the AFL website:

Sydney now sits two games clear atop the ladder with Port Adelaide, Geelong and Brisbane all still to play this weekend, and one round left in the home and away season. While it's possible those three sides could all win two matches and equal the Swans on 64 points, Sydney's percentage of 126.3 gives them a handy buffer ahead of the chasing pack, even if it was to lose dramatically next week.

Anyone notice something wrong?
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Giant Strides said:
www.afl.com.au

In the Greene house: A peek into bustling life of enigmatic Giant

Josh Gabelich goes behind the curtains with Toby Greene to find out what life is like for one of the game's biggest stars
www.afl.com.au www.afl.com.au
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A little tidbit from the story:

As Greene and most of the list exit the building for the day, Leek Aleer, Brown and Cadman remain. They hold group fitness classes for club staff at 4pm on Tuesdays. All three are completing a personal training class and need the practical experience.

These sessions are the legacy of former Geelong and Greater Western Sydney ruckman Dawson Simpson, who supplemented his base salary as a back-up ruckman in Australia's most expensive city by running group fitness sessions a few mornings a week at the club. Simpson is still a cherished former Giant – GWS connects with its alumni as well as any other club in the land – and attended the upset win against Geelong at GMHBA Stadium in round 11.
 
Giant Strides said:
A little tidbit from the story:

As Greene and most of the list exit the building for the day, Leek Aleer, Brown and Cadman remain. They hold group fitness classes for club staff at 4pm on Tuesdays. All three are completing a personal training class and need the practical experience.

These sessions are the legacy of former Geelong and Greater Western Sydney ruckman Dawson Simpson, who supplemented his base salary as a back-up ruckman in Australia's most expensive city by running group fitness sessions a few mornings a week at the club. Simpson is still a cherished former Giant – GWS connects with its alumni as well as any other club in the land – and attended the upset win against Geelong at GMHBA Stadium in round 11.
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A lot of small gems of information in that article.
 

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www.smh.com.au

Hogan’s six goals boot Giants closer to double chance and a Sydney final

Six goals from full forward Jesse Hogan has allowed the Giants to beat finals hopeful Fremantle by nine points and continue their charge towards the finals.
www.smh.com.au www.smh.com.au

Hogan’s six goals boot Giants closer to double chance and a Sydney final​


The Giants are striving for a top-two finish and a Sydney home final after a record-equalling seventh successive victory inspired by a six-goal performance from Jesse Hogan.

GWS beat Fremantle by nine points at the Sydney Showgrounds on Saturday to leave the Dockers’ finals chances in jeopardy.

It was fitting that Hogan kicked the goal that sealed victory against his most recent former club. He placed his grasp ever more firmly on the Coleman Medal as the league’s leading goalkicker with his six goals taking him to 67, 10 ahead of Carlton’s injured Charlie Curnow on 57.

Hogan has equalled the most number of goals kicked by a Giant, with Jeremy Cameron also booting 67 in 2019 to win the Coleman medal. It’s a remarkable turnaround for a player who had injury and personal issues during his two seasons in Perth before being given away by the Dockers.

“I’m really proud of the work that he puts in,” said coach Adam Kingsley, who described Hogan as selfless. “That probably goes understated, just how hard he works at his game, whether it’s physically or mentally. He’s a fantastic preparer, and we’ll support him as best as we can, as a coaching group and as a playing group.

“He’s given away plenty of goals this year to people in better positions or created a contest to create goals for his smaller teammates. So it’s great to see him get the rewards.”

The Giants must finish second to join their top-placed rivals the Swans in hosting a final during the first week of the playing-offs.

“We’d like to play in front of our home crowd. We had a really good, strong crowd today of over 10,000, well above AFL expectations, and they were loud in critical moments, which certainly helped us,” Kingsley said.

“So we’d love to play in front of them finals time, but we’ve got a job to do next week, and if we can do that, then we’ll get that opportunity.”

Kingsley agreed the Giants had been playing finals-like matches for weeks, having overcome then second-placed Brisbane in their previous game, before meeting sixth-placed Fremantle on Saturday and finishing the regular season with the seventh-placed Western Bulldogs in Ballarat next Sunday.

“I think we’ve had a great dress rehearsal for the finals with the teams that we’ve played over the last five weeks,” Kingsley said. “I’m really comfortable with that. But again, getting there is one thing, the season starts again now and we’ve got to make sure that we’re playing our best.”

Three pieces of magic allowed the Giants to regain the lead during the third quarter, with an under-pressure dribble from Toby Greene allowing Hogan to pop through his third goal from the square, a Darcy Jones showpiece that came during an active third quarter, and a roving banana from one of the Giant’s best players, Brett Daniels.

Gathering a hot handball from Tom Green, Jones dodged an opponent then let go with a right-foot banana kick which curled through the goal, putting the Giants back in front.

And Daniels made something out of nothing, spinning out of a pack for his right-foot checkside goal.

Green was instrumental in the Giants’ third-quarter comeback after a quiet start, and finished the game with a massive 40 possessions including 13 clearances. Veteran Stephen Coniglio had a big second half. Coniglio was busy in his first game since round 18 after recovering from a shoulder injury.

It was an exceptional performance from Fremantle’s Andrew Brayshaw which kept the visitors in the game, with 41 possessions.
 

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Giant YoYo said:
They have their finals favourite, no one else will get a look in.
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As there are only two Vics that means its Geelong or Dogs, hopefully we flog the ****ing pound pups and Freo win and that means we only hear about the Cats, and at our worst we are still a better team than them.
 
Colonial said:
As there are only two Vics that means its Geelong or Dogs, hopefully we flog the ****ing pound pups and Freo win and that means we only hear about the Cats, and at our worst we are still a better team than them.
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I meant the Hawks. Been hearing so much about them being contenders to win the GF. 😅
 

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