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& what is your take on Mr Abbott once he becomes PM?
Firstly, it is LABOR... No u....
Secondly that was no backhanded compliment. I do not rate him one bit. He is a grub....
Bugger Kev....
And how does the Liberals on this very page who say " the electorate generally get it right, except for when Rudd got in" differ?
Coalition policy is to increase humanitarian quota to 20000 over 3 years - in other words at a rate the system can absorb and afford.
Actually it depends on whether you are using American English (Labor) or British Enlighs (Labour).
The Australia Labour Party has had both spellings as it's official name.
Backhanded compliments are not actually compliments...
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It is a bit of a smack down to the Greens but it might help them somewhat politically. There's still plenty of people who agree with the Greens on this issue, probably well over the 10% or so that they poll. Indeed when you've got people like the head of the ACTU as well as most refugee groups on your side that will hold some sway with plenty of the population.
I think the ALP are hoping to ambush the Greens in to accepting a slightly changed Malaysia solution to start a regional frame-work. Even the Greens would probably accept that Malaysia is better than indefinite detention of Manus or Nauru. If they package that with some other improvements such as extra funding to the UNHCR then the Greens might come on board. It might work but that would rely on the Greens giving ground. If not we're left with indefinite detention on Manus/Nauru which could cause a further spike in the Greens' vote at the expense of the Labor left.
Zero chance in the next decade? Really?
As embarassing as this has been for the ALP the coalition didn't bother asking even 1 question on it in question time today. On the day the legislation was passed! If this result is that politically horrible for the ALP I would've thought that Abbott would've gone a fair bit harder on it.
Due to the fact that he was replaced without seeing out 1 term while his predecessor lasted 12 odd years ?
People soon realised that Fiscal Conservsative Kev, who was strong on border protection was a BS artist.
Don't like being proven wrong do you?
It's on the wikipedia page genius. The Australian Labour party has had both spellings as it's name. Labor is the Americanised version (they don't like the excess 'u') whereas Labour is the British english version.
Learn your history.
The fact is Labour or Labor are both perfectly acceptable. If you want you can send angry letters to all the Australian newspapers that use the terms interchangeably.
Nice to see you have given up the debate for pointless spelling point scoring though.
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Based on any independent modeling at all?
As a wealthy country with a need for a workforce and trying to get ahead of the aged curve - I call bullshit.
I would have far more time for Abbott if he was honest and stopped trying to play the humanitarian card whilst simultaneously playing the **** off we're
nearly full card.
Anyway even if Port Power were the leader of the opposition - not even they could lose this.
And houses. And I think we have a skilled migration program to cover the skills gap.
My main point is that Abbotts had plenty of chances (eg when Gillard and co stuff up PR wise) but has spectacularly failed to transform from negativity to inspirational. even for a second or two
Abbott is not given to inspirational hyperbole. Not like our Kev, nothing like him.
After listening to Uncle Joe tonight i would hazard a guess that that is what he is banking on when he takes over the keys to the treasury.
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Ironic considering the Pacific Solution cost the taxpayer $1 billion to detain 1700 people, or $1800 per day compared to $213 to detain on-shore. Do you think that the average asylum seeker would need even $213, much less $1800, a day to live off if they were housed in the community? How much do dole recipients get per day again? About $18 after rent, the last I heard.
Oh that's a bit sneaky. That was 1 billion over 5 years. The government is spending more then that in one year.
Of course lets ignore that fact that at the end of Howard's term the facility was just about empty, no more people dying on boats trying to get to Australia and that the boat people issue was a complete non issue.
Our PM gurgling "that's fannnnnnntastic" to the head of defence forces in that puerile media stunt to show she's in charge - now enshrined in YouTube our government for 13 year olds.
Having reflected abit more, I would have liked Tones to get up in the parliament and, after excoriating the; govt, tell the people smugglers that the gig is up; they'll never get any comfort from the opposition and Opp will back the govt in the sternest measures to enforce Nauru and Manus to stop more deaths at sea.
That would have been inspirational?
It has been a hundred years since we have used the U in Labor... But if it makes you feel good about yourself, go for it
I think you are just an angry little man who can not accept that you aren't the sharpest tool in the shed.
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