News Glen Bartlett launches legal action against MFC's Kate Roffey and other club officials; "Appeasement" over Goodwin's behaviour; Tissue required...

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"When Simon Goodwin

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had a medical episode at a Melbourne club function in December 2020, Glen Bartlett handed him a tissue and a distressed look."

He handed Simon Goodwin

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a distressed look? Do these HS writers even English anymore?

 

[Impunity!]

"When Simon Goodwin had a medical episode at a Melbourne club function in December 2020, Glen Bartlett handed him a tissue and a distressed look."

He handed Simon Goodwin a distressed look? Do these HS writers even English anymore?

It's Robbo, so I think we all know the answer to that...

 

[Demonic Ascent]

Well from reading the articles, it seems that he feels he was doing the right thing by Goodwin and the club, when he got booted, and he is now alleging club officials leaked defamatory information to some Fairfax journalists who then published it (hence his lawsuit).

If this is true and he has been defamed, then he is entitled to damages.

It's extremely tenuous and I think he is doing himself no favours by letting this drag on. It just makes him look petty and vindictive but if that's his go, whatever. Like I said, I don't see the end game, Roffey isn't going to be ousted or step down, Goodwin isn't going to be sacked so his case is really about Caro writing some mean things about him - Jesus if that gets up the lawyers will be falling over themselves to get a class action going against her.

 

[Chief]

the club, it's culture, and their performance was comprehensively dissected and discussed in the media.

I think they missed a bit.

 

[Toump Ass]

I think they missed a bit.

Which bit did they miss?

I've read the books, worn out the VCR, bought every newspaper in Australia after our win.

If you think there's something that wasn't covered about our glorious journey to premiership victory tell us what it is, I'd love to hear it!

 

[Stax on the mill]

Don’t know or care enough about Bartlett’s grievances to form an opinion as to who’s in the right. Probably a bit of both.

However if he successfully sues Caro, then I’ll be more than happy with that outcome. Doubt though that she would have to fork out any money. That would be down to Fairfax and/or Channel 9.

 

[#23 Hill]

"When Simon Goodwin had a medical episode at a Melbourne club function in December 2020, Glen Bartlett handed him a tissue and a distressed look."

He handed Simon Goodwin a distressed look? Do these HS writers even English anymore?

Got past the editor too.

 

[Bluelegs]

Stature?

Wouldn't phase me if every club adopted testing of their entire organisation

If you do believe Bartlett then that will never happen.

 

[Bluelegs]

Well from reading the articles, it seems that he feels he was doing the right thing by Goodwin and the club, when he got booted, and he is now alleging club officials leaked defamatory information to some Fairfax journalists who then published it (hence his lawsuit).

If this is true and he has been defamed, then he is entitled to damages.

Again I really don't know what he is describing as defamatory. Most of the articles and commentary related to him at the time were pretty mild. I certainly never saw his fiance being dragged into it as he claims.

 

[Arr0w]

If you do believe Bartlett then that will never happen.

Doesn't mean it shouldn't.

Just like increasing penalties for head high contact

 

[Bluelegs]

Doesn't mean it shouldn't.

Just like increasing penalties for head high contact

I've made my views on drug policies pretty clear. Although I'll admit the hypocrisy is frustrating.

 

[Impunity!]

Again I really don't know what he is describing as defamatory. Most of the articles and commentary related to him at the time were pretty mild. I certainly never saw his fiance being dragged into it as he claims.

Yeah, I presume we will need to wait for the matters alleged to have defamed him to be aired in court in due course.

 

[Moquo]

Goody and the good gear

 

[ITCHY EYEBALLS]

Imagine a club where a head coach is prevented from socialising with his players, building personal relationships and developing a team/mates culture.
Luckily for Melb fans, that’s not your club.
Well done to Goody for having human side, rather than placing himself on a pedestaL.

 

[Flying Cloud]

Hey Glen, many of us get sacked or laid off for a range reasons during our careers, often without any fault on our own part, and most of us don't have a cushy lawyer jobs to fall back on.
Some advice. If the only people listening to your whinging are HS hacks, then maybe you should just get on with your life.

 

[Chief]

Imagine a club where a head coach is prevented from socialising with his players, building personal relationships and developing a team/mates culture.

When was that even suggested?

 

[Tulip]

All valid points, and I really can't disagree.

My initial reply, was more about a certain aspect, the one of drug taking (if true), by a person leading the footy program, and the head of the club, wanting a process to stamp it out

If it was purely to have Goodwin sacked, then it's poor mechanism

I think you're being a bit unrealistic here. Recreational drug culture is rife across Australian and broader Western society at the moment, and has always been to some degree. I'm not endorsing it, but it is just reality for better or for worse. Ultimately, there are drugs and there are drugs, and the best way to judge this is based on performance and health. Heroin or meth are hard to hide, most people smoke weed and/or drink, and then cocaine and prescription painkillers are somewhere in between where users can have a non-destructive habit for years and appear normal whilst slowly killing their brain.

 

[Tulip]

When was that even suggested?

I remember the old Hawthorn [redacted] era well Chief and appreciate you don't want to say anything that could get you sued, but your argument is very vague. You're also one of very few people arguing your side at all in a thread that has been views 4k times and has 167 responses. Can you make it clear what it is exactly Bartlett has a case for? Is it the hair testing leading to him being unceremoniously told by his fellow board members that they think he should go? The insistence that Goodwin be sacked and the same?

 

[Pure_Ownage]

That's fine ... we have a thread here about Hawthorn's racism and everyone loves to pile on to Clarko about whatever he's done wrong this week in it. Meanwhile the guy who ran the NT until about a year ago and contributed to writing this:

Gunner, Michael – Indigenous Justice Clearinghouse

Got elected on a platform that went directly against the anti suicide recommendations he'd signed off on.

Now all the fuss is about Clarko and no one even knows he (Gunner) helped write this report then ignored it when winning power mattered.

That's the sort of hypocrisy Elmer and I were whinging about. You're just talking about marketing and I'm with Bill hicks on that subject - if you're in marketing do the world a favour and suck a tailpipe.

Obviously corporations want their sponsorship dollars to reflect some bullshit whitebread image of society but quite often the people involved in these corporations carry on the same way. There's masses of hypocrisy here. Goodwin got his side to perform in September and they broke a drought that would have seen people who support Melbourne live their whole lives in some cases and never see a flag. I have friends who waited their whole lives to see that and thought they might never see it. We don't need to know about what he does in his downtime as a result.

These sponsors are employing young men to advertise their s**t and blowing smoke up their arses in the process, the same way they have all their lives, cos football is a religion in parts of this country and being good at it is a get out jail free card when you are young (ie not an adult yet, tho even after you've become an adult in many cases.) So really who gives a * what sponsors expect when they haven't really thought thru what they are doing in the first place, ponying up all that cash.

Couldn't give a * about Goodwin's drug use.

Unless he's getting his boys juiced up to improve their performance, cos that's cheating.

Thats all very well and good but youre talking about how the world should work, the poster youre responding to is talking about how it does work. Big difference.

 

[Arr0w]

I think you're being a bit unrealistic here. Recreational drug culture is rife across Australian and broader Western society at the moment, and has always been to some degree. I'm not endorsing it, but it is just reality for better or for worse. Ultimately, there are drugs and there are drugs, and the best way to judge this is based on performance and health. Heroin or meth are hard to hide, most people smoke weed and/or drink, and then cocaine and prescription painkillers are somewhere in between where users can have a non-destructive habit for years and appear normal whilst slowly killing their brain.

Again, all valid, and situations I deal with ongoing

We proposed/introduced regular and random testing, predominantly for those handling machinery/transport, but we found greater buy in, when we included all areas, which was driven by the staff

Yes, there were some people that opposed the testing, some people left, but we also increased productivity

More organisations will move toward greater testing, as fines for any incidents that cause injury or death are substantial for companies/directors

 

[Bluelegs]

Damien Barrett on FC saying that others involved at the time have very different recollections of what went on. Appears Melbourne have no interest in getting into a tit for tat here so expect radio silence on that front.

 

[WillHayward]

Seriously can't understand what this blokes beef is.

Sounds like a privileged flog

 

[ferball]

Thats all very well and good but youre talking about how the world should work, the poster youre responding to is talking about how it does work. Big difference.

Who asked him too.

 

[RandB]

Given everything he has alleged, how this legal offensive will be any good for Bartlett or his family's well being I dont know.

Goodwin is no saint, I have my own reservations about him, shit was no doubt covered up. This is merely the subject matter though (not the catalyst) and it has been reported on already.

Bartlett going with defamation and what, duty of care to him or something? He was ignored? hurt feelings? Kept out of the loop? In lieu of further information, this is just bizarre.

Severe duress (and suicide) has to be taken seriously. If there is a direct substantiated nexus to ongoing, seriously poor treatment and there is a legal basis then examine it. Having said that this is a football club board, not the friggen army, surely you would just walk away if it ever got that bad.

A lot to play out but this just doesn't add up to me at present.

 

[Chief]

Can you make it clear what it is exactly Bartlett has a case for?

If he has anything actionable it will come out in the case, as has been said. I don't know anything specific.