Play Nice Goal Umpire costs Adelaide a shot at finals, how do you stop it from happening again?

[Crankyhawk]

The obvious is we just change to to ever other sport in the world with posts and goals. If it hits the post and goes through the goals, it’s a goal. Point it’s a point. Back into play it is play on, except after the siren you get a behind.

Not sure we ever want to do that though.

I don’t see a downside to it if you bring it in at the start of a season

 

[Go the Guts]

Does anyone have a link for the McLachlan press conference?

 

[CrowMania1990]

Does anyone have a link for the McLachlan press conference?

You didn't miss much. He said it was a mistake and the AFL is accountable for that and that he thanks the Adelaide Football Club for their maturity.

 

[Go the Guts]

I don’t see a downside to it if you bring it in at the start of a season

I've been saying this for years- it's a no brainer! Touches the post or not, if it goes through the goals, it's a goal. Will eliminate most of the reviews, except touched ones.

 

[Teal Leviathan]

100% can’t overturn the result. For 100 years teams were at the mercy of the umpires late in close games (and themselves mostly). Can’t start overturning results with a minute of “what ifs?” Late

So we shouldn't take advantage of the possibilities that modern technology offers to ensure that games are better officiated according to the rules of the game ... because mistakes were also made in the past?

The Crows should've been in front with seconds remaining, period. The "what if" in this situation is the possibility that Sydney may have been able to score in response from a centre bounce.

 

[Go the Guts]

You didn't miss much. He said it was a mistake and the AFL is accountable for that and that he thanks the Adelaide Football Club for their maturity.

Cool, where did you watch it?

 

[WillHayward]

Goal umpire stood down

Clearly a goal.

Disgraceful.

Why can't ARC speak to a field ump and a field up calls review?.

 

[Bluelegs]

Surely we can put to bed the claim that 'every score is reviewed'

 

[J_Moore]

AFL need to have 100% full disclosure on betting patterns of this game IMO.

Anything less then 100% disclosure on betting size, patterns and the like will just prove their guilt at this stage

The evidence is in. They now need to prove it wrong

Some of our finest legal minds

 

[westie]

Oh! Yet another Swans victory by less than a goal thanks to some dodgy umpiring

These are really adding up...

Isn't amazing how the controversial decisions always favour the Swans




Who could forget earlier this year when North completely outplayed the Swans, but they were bent over by the umpires all afternoon with numerous dodgy frees leading to Sydney goals and keeping the Swans in it.

With under a minute to go and the Swans trailing by 3 points, the umpires bailed out Sydney with a free kick & 50m due because North exceeded their interchange limit.

Technically there, but if ever there was a situation where some leeway could be given, that was it. Play had stopped for a ball-up. The clock had stopped. The North player upon realising their error was sprinting back to the interchange bench, but to no avail.

You can bet this would not have been paid against Sydney at the SCG had the situation been reversed.
You could almost hear the umpires licking their lips and cracking a fat as they awarded the match-winning free kick to McLean.




Rd 11, 2022 at SCG: Swans def Richmond by 6 points

1) Free kick to Prestia on the wing with 1 second left... 2) Final siren sounds... 3) Chad Warner boots the ball into the crowd...
It's a 50m penalty EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK..... Except the umpires didn't award a Prestia a 50m penalty.







Rd 8, 2019 at SCG: Swans def Essendon by 5 points
Eseendon's Myers took a set shot from 55m to win the match. Swans defender, Rampe climbed the goal post. The umpire told him to "get down" while the ball was on it's way. The law states umpires shall award a free kick against anyone who "intentionally shakes, climbs or otherwise interferes with a goal or behind post (either before or after a Player has disposed of the football)"...


But the AFL and umpires department ticked off this incorrect decision...

AFL 2019: Bizarre Dane Rampe post-siren goalpost shake ticked off by league

Swan shake cleared: AFL ticks off Rampe’s bizarre siren put-off

www.foxsports.com.au

I won't mention the time the Swans got home by a kick vs Hawthorn when their noted expert diver, Papley took a dive after kicking a goal and was rewarded with another goal from point blank range.

Or the time when Barry Hall was banned from playing in a Grand Final because he punched Matt Maguire in the solar plexus 100m away from the action, but justice was perverted when a corrupt tribunal decided the incident had occurred "in the play" and let Big Bad Bazza lead the Swans to a 4 point win over the Eagles.



I won't mention all the other times Sydney players somehow avoided suspensions which players from any other club would've received.

e.g. Rampe choosing to bump young Bulldog, Lachlan O'Neil 50m off the ball and knocking him out, but having the suspension overturned "cos I didn't mean it. It was accident, your honour"

"He is the luckiest man in football," said Gary Lyon

‘What the hell is going on?’: Swans star ‘luckiest man in AFL’ after shock tribunal verdict

‘What the hell is going on?’: Swans star ‘luckiest man in AFL’ after ‘staggering’ tribunal verdict

www.foxsports.com.au

Lance Franklin seemed to have his own "Get Out Of Jail Free" card at Sydney. Numerous times it was found he had no case to answer, despite leaving opponents dazed after clocking them with high shots & mistimed bumps... I lost count... 10 times? 12 times? More... That was after he was HARSHLY rubbed out about 7 or 8 times at Hawthorn over some very soft bumps. Different rules seemed to apply to him in Sydney.


Not just him. I remember ALL players being suspended for dangerous front on contact under the AFL crackdown.
Except when it came to Sydney's young golden boy, Dan Hannebery... Amazing to think he escaped suspension for this bump.





It must be great to be a Sydney Swans player. You get looked after by the AFL with cost of living allowances, ambassador payments and god-knows-what-else outside of the salary cap...

Your teams gets looked after with NSW academy picks...

You get looked after by the MRO... You get looked after by the tribunal...

You get looked after every weekend by the umpires... e.g. Rampe and Grundy played by their own rules in the 2010's. No illegal blocking you say! Hah! Or what about their CHB Craig Bolton tunnelling everyone in 2000's? Similar with Andrew Dunkley, their marginally talented full back in the 90's who was permitted to grapple ands wrestle full forwards just like their 80's full back Rod "Tilt" Carter.

All of these b-graders basically played like All Australian defenders thanks to the umps giving them the green light to break the rules..


"vIC bIAs," you say

Yeah, VIC/AFL bias towards their pet NSW franchises

And the resultant new rules! Money talks.

 

[CrowMania1990]

Cool, where did you watch it?

It was linked to an acticle posted earlier in the thread. Should be on the AFL site soon enough.

 

[hilly]

'I think it hit the post but want to be sure' would have been useful.

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[Elmer_Hauser]

How much money would it cost to install goal post sensors into the goal posts that only go off if the ball makes contact with it ?

 

[Bluelegs]

How much money would it cost to install goal post sensors into the goal posts that only go off if the ball makes contact with it ?

How would they tell the difference between players touching the post and the ball?

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

AFL should give 4 points to Crows but at the same time Swans should keep there 4 points.

That would be the fairest outcome given this shitstorm

Or call it a draw and give 2 points to each club. That's much fairer and sensible

 

[offtherails9]

There should be some sort of rule which requires scores in the last 2 minutes of a game of a margin less than 5 goals to be reviewed or at least looked at before the ball is given to the opposition to kick out. I'm a Crows hater generally but last night was completely unjust.

 

[HairyO]

There should be some sort of rule which requires scores in the last 2 minutes of a game of a margin less than 5 goals to be reviewed or at least looked at before the ball is given to the opposition to kick out. I'm a Crows hater generally but last night was completely unjust.

So the last 5 minutes takes longer than an NFL game and loses all intensity.

But if they do this we can back-date the Rankine goal which lost us the game and give us those 4 points instead of the Crows

 

[Romeoh1]

Beyond belief that he was so sure and didn’t want to check it. Or that the field ump didn’t ask for a review. So crucial. Not good enough.’and the Cameron kick last week too- this stuff has to be addressed at the time- we can’t have such sloppy things, that are easily rectified, affecting the game.

 

[AstuteTiger]

Yep here is the presser by Gil, he says it should’ve been reviewed and overturned, acknowledges It was a goal.

 

[joe444]

I just realised the Sydney defender who touched the goal post was actually using it for leverage to attempt to touch the ball ...

 

[JackFlash]

It was always going to happen, the result of a game directly affected by a complete and utter appalling decision. Crows were completely robbed and the AFL needs to act on this. They just can't sweep this under the carpet, but i suppose they will.

 

[BunjiMC]

Does anyone remember the behind that was given. Then the opposing team played on after the behind and then play was dropped and reviewed?

2 or 3 years ago?

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Everyone talking like it has cost Adelaide a spot in the finals (a win would have taken them to 44 points)

meanwhile Sydney are now on 50 instead of 46 while GWS & the Dogs (if they win today) will be on 48

that f$#& up by the goal umpire isn’t going to cost Adelaide a finals spot - it’s going to cost the Giants.

Cost Geelong too. They have an easy gNd next at the Cattery against The Dogs which they will win fairly comfortably.

 

[gillon]

How would you then determine shave vs a deflection? Or just anything that goes through the main opening without being touched = goal

then you'll have even more controversy and confusion about what constitutes a "shave"

Oh yeah I don’t mean only a shave, basically as long as it goes through it’s a goal.

 

[melbun]

It was always going to happen, the result of a game directly affected by a complete and utter appalling decision. Crows were completely robbed and the AFL needs to act on this. They just can't sweep this under the carpet, but i suppose they will.

You assume that the AFL was not party to this decision. Gil is acting, in the Hollywood sense.

Also. Consider the number of goals that Curnow is gifted throughout the year. It surely can't be just good luck.